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wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
I didn't think the crystalline being was that interesting tbh, but not the worst ep definitly

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Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.
Silicon Avatar's a drat classic, it's one of my favorite episodes!

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

The Crystalline Entity definitely gets bonus points for being really alien, and sympathy points for being unceremoniously murdered just as your imagination is taking hold of the possibilities of communicating with it. It's that potential and ineffability on both counts that really captures people I think.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Gotta hand it to the Crystalline Entity for going to the greatest lengths possible to cockblock William Riker.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Timby posted:

Just his complete commitment to continuing to hand-code every page on EAS, because he originally built the thing on goddamn Frontpage and now uses Notepad++ and Excel and drat it that's the way he likes it so gently caress you he's not ever going to use a CMS ... well, it makes my brain bleed, especially because a lot of his code is horrifically bloated, and I'm pretty sure my phone starts howling and shrieking on certain pages on his site, but good on him. You do you, Bernd, and keep shining on, you crazy diamond.

There are so few sites like this anymore, I hope it never ends.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry
One day he will pass it on and that person will make in square space in 5 minutes. Thus endings the 90s uber nerd website.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Goblin Craft posted:

The Crystalline Entity definitely gets bonus points for being really alien, and sympathy points for being unceremoniously murdered just as your imagination is taking hold of the possibilities of communicating with it. It's that potential and ineffability on both counts that really captures people I think.
Right, and that scene at the end where the doctor expects that her son would approve and Data tells her that he wouldn’t is really good

Banana Canada
Sep 2, 2003
I'd tax all foreigners living abroad.



Holosuite Battle of Britain is definitely a first person flight sim but perhaps Holosuite Alamo is more like a third person Total War sim?

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

let's not get into what the holosuite Alaimo involves

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Maybe the soldiers at the Alamo pop like balloons and confetti comes out when you bayonet them

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
It's just totally accurate battle simulator

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Sim City 2000 except it’s in a holosuite and O’Brien is stomping all over the tiny city while wearing nothing but a diaper. Keiko walks in.

“It’s not what it looks like.”

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

"It's not a toy, it's a model."

Marshal Radisic
Oct 9, 2012


Welp, it's the end of an era, I suppose: the Trek novelverse is being rebooted. There's a final trilogy of books scheduled for the fall that are going to go all Crisis-on-Infinite-Earths on the setting, after which things will be reworked to be in accordance with modern televised Trek and the little canon the novels started assembling in 2000 with their post-series "relaunches" of TNG, DS9, and VOY will be concluded.

Dunno what to think about this, really. I mostly stopped reading Trek sometime around 2004, and I never liked the idea behind the Destiny books, feeling like it was just turning Trek into Marvel Comics. Still, while it will never be mourned the way the Star Wars Expanded Universe has, it's sad to see this iteration of Trek go all the same.

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.

FlamingLiberal posted:

This is the first time I've heard that people really don't like Silicon Avatar

Same with Ethics.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Marshal Radisic posted:

Welp, it's the end of an era, I suppose: the Trek novelverse is being rebooted. There's a final trilogy of books scheduled for the fall that are going to go all Crisis-on-Infinite-Earths on the setting, after which things will be reworked to be in accordance with modern televised Trek and the little canon the novels started assembling in 2000 with their post-series "relaunches" of TNG, DS9, and VOY will be concluded.

Dunno what to think about this, really. I mostly stopped reading Trek sometime around 2004, and I never liked the idea behind the Destiny books, feeling like it was just turning Trek into Marvel Comics. Still, while it will never be mourned the way the Star Wars Expanded Universe has, it's sad to see this iteration of Trek go all the same.
I had been wondering what they were going to do with that. The continuity is a lot different from what we have seen with Picard.

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.
I wasn't a fan of the Trek novelverse, but it's nice it's getting a final send-off, rather than just being abruptly canceled like the Star Wars EU was.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






CPColin posted:

Maybe the soldiers at the Alamo pop like balloons and confetti comes out when you bayonet them

And we're back to Germany

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

CPColin posted:

Maybe the soldiers at the Alamo pop like balloons and confetti comes out when you bayonet them

This is Quark’s, Grunt Birthday Party costs extra

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Goblin Craft posted:

The Crystalline Entity definitely gets bonus points for being really alien, and sympathy points for being unceremoniously murdered just as your imagination is taking hold of the possibilities of communicating with it.

Try not to think about how in "Datalore" they just opened a channel and talked to it.

Banana Canada
Sep 2, 2003
I'd tax all foreigners living abroad.



Goblin Craft posted:

let's not get into what the holosuite Alaimo involves

This one is easy. It's an interactive holonovel that involves an unwitting double agent who is tasked with infiltrating a planetary resistance group. Dukat, true to character, likes to play as a character on the side of the despotic planetary government. The Doctor has also played this holonovel but he enjoys observing the story as an NPC cab driver.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Powered Descent posted:

Try not to think about how in "Datalore" they just opened a channel and talked to it.

I thought that was just Lore that did that. Wasn't it also implied he brought the Crystal to the colony in the first place?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I thought that was just Lore that did that. Wasn't it also implied he brought the Crystal to the colony in the first place?

Wasn't just implied, explicitly stated.

quote:

And let us toast also the great Crystal Entity with whom I learned to communicate. Before Doctor Soong disassembled me, I earned its gratitude by revealing the way to the colonists. Can you image its gratitude when I give it the life on this vessel?

The thing I've always been unclear of is....what does Lore get out of the deal other than mass murder?

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
What more do you need?

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Lore was pretty vindictive toward Soong and the other colonists, but I'm not sure of his motive for continuing with the entity. My thought is that, while it was a genuine threat and he did intend to feed the life forms on the Enterprise to it, the entity's gratitude is pretty low on Lore's priority list, and he was saying that more to drive the point home to Data. It's personal for him.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Data is Mega Man and Lore is (Ruby Spears) Proto Man.

Which makes B4 X I guess

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Now that I think about it, it's been a while but I also kind of remember he was either slightly in awe of it, or at least in some kind of solidarity with it as opposed to the more usual biological forms of life, which dovetails later on with his cavorting with the Borg.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Angry Salami posted:

I wasn't a fan of the Trek novelverse, but it's nice it's getting a final send-off, rather than just being abruptly canceled like the Star Wars EU was.

The Star Wars EU also got a final send-off novel, it wasn’t cancelled abruptly.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Timby posted:

Just his complete commitment to continuing to hand-code every page on EAS, because he originally built the thing on goddamn Frontpage and now uses Notepad++ and Excel and drat it that's the way he likes it so gently caress you he's not ever going to use a CMS ... well, it makes my brain bleed, especially because a lot of his code is horrifically bloated, and I'm pretty sure my phone starts howling and shrieking on certain pages on his site, but good on him. You do you, Bernd, and keep shining on, you crazy diamond.

To be fair, Microsoft Frontpage was the last time web design made any goddamn sense. Now you need to learn three languages, gently caress with a bunch of who knows what, and actually making the webpage work means updating a whole bunch of poo poo thats not visible in knock-off frontpage programs because everything is supposed to be in it's own file you summon with the dark arts of css and some snake or gems, blegh, how did making websites get harder over time?

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Just watched The Inner Light, what an absolute life changing event that must be for Picard. Is it ever discussed or referred to again later? That has to have a huge mental impact on a person.

A fantastic episode.

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry
ahhh about that, I don't think even Picard remembers it. Best of Both Worlds had way more emotional staying power.

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.

John F Bennett posted:

Just watched The Inner Light, what an absolute life changing event that must be for Picard. Is it ever discussed or referred to again later? That has to have a huge mental impact on a person.

A fantastic episode.

He can be seen practicing that flute instrument in other episodes.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Axe-man posted:

ahhh about that, I don't think even Picard remembers it. Best of Both Worlds had way more emotional staying power.

the flute, he remembers it, but the same way he remembered the enterprise when he was in the simulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4y_oWBiwAo&t=46s

wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 19, 2021

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

John F Bennett posted:

Just watched The Inner Light, what an absolute life changing event that must be for Picard. Is it ever discussed or referred to again later? That has to have a huge mental impact on a person.

A fantastic episode.


V-Men posted:

He can be seen practicing that flute instrument in other episodes.

Also the main theme to Star Trek: Picard is the flute melody that Picard's "son" from the simulation (played by Patrick Stewart's real life son Daniel) is heard composing over the course of the episode.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
Seriously why was he allowed to go back to just being a normal captain after a lifetime changing experience like that.

I mean, at least take some loving PTO to remember your command codes and poo poo.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
i would assume the way the memories and experience is coded into the brain would have been considered by the people that made it to integrate in such a way that it doesn't just permanently overwrite your memories from one minute/60 years ago. he was probably back to normal in an hour

it wouldnt be very effective as a mechanism for making sure their legacy and lives are remembered if it mentally and emotionally crippled the person who was targeted by it

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

jeeves posted:

Seriously why was he allowed to go back to just being a normal captain after a lifetime changing experience like that.

I mean, at least take some loving PTO to remember your command codes and poo poo.

Picard got exactly two vacation days in his career, Captain's Holiday and Family, and look how those turned out.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

V-Men posted:

He can be seen practicing that flute instrument in other episodes.

sadly his talent seems to have faded over time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBUgTby93Y

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
It's kind of a catch 22; if you do episodic television you have more freedom to do a one-off where there are potentially life-altering implications like that, but if you're expected to follow up on it later on, you probably won't be allowed to do it.

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Hubbardologist posted:

sadly his talent seems to have faded over time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBUgTby93Y

My favourite part of that video is the scream he added in as Geordi blows up on the monitor.

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