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Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Long-fei isn't real, it can't hurt you.

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Maxwell Adams posted:

Spoiler checks cleared! You can now read The Daily Life of Spider Sisters, an extremely non-canon comedy spinoff manga.

Need more Top Hat Kumo in the anime.

Daedalus1134
Sep 14, 2005

They see me rollin'


Bobulus posted:

Long-fei isn't real, it can't hurt you.

code:
New evolution paths have been unlocked.
"Long-fei" is now available.

New skills have been unlocked.
"Background blur" has been unlocked.

Renzuko
Oct 10, 2012


Lurking Haro posted:

Earth-biting girl is the Demon Lord, we've seen her a few times.

Yeah i just couldnt remember if we've been given a proper name, and couldnt remember if they called her out as the demon lord during that meeting.

Xelkelvos posted:

Need more Top Hat Kumo in the anime.

Unfortunately, magic brain 2, aka, cloak and glasses kumoko, is tophat kumoko in the manga.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


Renzuko posted:

Yeah i just couldnt remember if we've been given a proper name, and couldnt remember if they called her out as the demon lord during that meeting.

I don't recall if they named her, but they explicitly refer to her as Demon Lord and talk about how she has the title of "Demon Lord" and also go out of their way to say that the title isn't for show and she has the power to back it up.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Renzuko posted:

Unfortunately, magic brain 2, aka, cloak and glasses kumoko, is tophat kumoko in the manga.

Oh yeah. Info brain, when in brain, is Glasses Kumo and the other *don't* have glasses.

kirtar
Sep 11, 2011

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Bobulus posted:

Long-fei isn't real, it can't hurt you.

For some reason I parsed that as "dragon fei" even though that is definitely not from the right language.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



kirtar posted:

For some reason I parsed that as "dragon fei" even though that is definitely not from the right language.

You're not wrong. She is a dragon-type monster.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Besides Julius getting presumably getting taken out by a Rot attack followed by Kumoko bragging about her newly gained Rot Eye there's also the OP that shows the lady all in white covered in spider webs in Wakabe's eye. So unless there's something explicitly stating otherwise the Lady in White is clearly Kumoko.

Speaking of the OP the Lady in White doesn't show up in the lineup with the Demon Lord and her generals despite being at the meeting a few episodes ago.

I hope using the OP isn't cheating, it's been fun watching it and putting together the pieces it presents you with.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Renzuko posted:


Unfortunately, magic brain 2, aka, cloak and glasses kumoko, is tophat kumoko in the manga.

This was a bad change. I have no idea what they were thinking.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Electric Phantasm posted:

Besides Julius getting presumably getting taken out by a Rot attack followed by Kumoko bragging about her newly gained Rot Eye there's also the OP that shows the lady all in white covered in spider webs in Wakabe's eye. So unless there's something explicitly stating otherwise the Lady in White is clearly Kumoko.

Speaking of the OP the Lady in White doesn't show up in the lineup with the Demon Lord and her generals despite being at the meeting a few episodes ago.

I hope using the OP isn't cheating, it's been fun watching it and putting together the pieces it presents you with.

How about this: The Demon Lord is Kumoko because she came out of nowhere, uses super strong threads to attack/bind people, and in the OP after she bites the planet, the zoom out with her cloak is overlaid with the four Kumokos.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

AlternateNu posted:

How about this: The Demon Lord is Kumoko because she came out of nowhere, uses super strong threads to attack/bind people, and in the OP after she bites the planet, the zoom out with her cloak is overlaid with the four Kumokos.

Ooh if we're gonna play total fun speculation game, how about based on that Kumoko gets a FIFTH parallel mind but it's EEEEVIL and that one becomes the demon lord. Either by making a body for itself through magic or taking over sometimes like a werewolf.

Also if anyone else missed the ED this week as much as me I offer you this to help recenter yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPcBxyIe1qA&t=10s

I also miss the hardcore dark souls hell/desparation vibe of the manga... but I can't fight cute baby monster Aoi Yuuki Kumoko

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:

They made a big deal out of explaining forging a pact and how hard it is to get out of this episode, If Kumoko gets tricked into a pact by the demon lord that would explain why she's doing apparently evil things.

Has Kumoko ever been portrayed as a particularly good person, though? The way she hasn't met anyone capable of communicating with her makes her hard to morally evaluate, but still, she interacts with the world almost exclusively by killing things. I don't see her killing Julius as particularly out of character.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Silver2195 posted:

Has Kumoko ever been portrayed as a particularly good person, though? The way she hasn't met anyone capable of communicating with her makes her hard to morally evaluate, but still, she interacts with the world almost exclusively by killing things. I don't see her killing Julius as particularly out of character.

She seemed pretty determined to save the world in this episode, but what exactly that entails is hard to say at this point.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

AlternateNu posted:

How about this: The Demon Lord is Kumoko because she came out of nowhere, uses super strong threads to attack/bind people, and in the OP after she bites the planet, the zoom out with her cloak is overlaid with the four Kumokos.

Gonna focus in on her biting on the planet, which I feel symbolizes that the Demon Lord has plans for destruction. Kumoko seems determined to save the planet, granted 1)We don't what that entails and 2)this is Kumoko 15 years ago so there's a chance she just gives up and decides that she'll be the one to destroy the planet for some reason.

Silver2195 posted:

Has Kumoko ever been portrayed as a particularly good person, though? The way she hasn't met anyone capable of communicating with her makes her hard to morally evaluate, but still, she interacts with the world almost exclusively by killing things. I don't see her killing Julius as particularly out of character.

Is wasp genocide good or bad?

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Electric Phantasm posted:

Is wasp genocide good or bad?

As someone who's had to deal with wasp nests, unambiguously good.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Silver2195 posted:

Has Kumoko ever been portrayed as a particularly good person, though? The way she hasn't met anyone capable of communicating with her makes her hard to morally evaluate, but still, she interacts with the world almost exclusively by killing things. I don't see her killing Julius as particularly out of character.

Well she did kill a bunch of people even when they were clearly running away and no longer a threat specifically because they gave good EXP using self-defence as a fig leaf to rationalize her actions.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Nitrousoxide posted:

You're not wrong. She is a dragon-type monster.

Long Long Fei

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Xelkelvos posted:

Long Long Fei

No say it in your head like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-1Ue0FFrHY

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Electric Phantasm posted:

Speaking of the OP the Lady in White doesn't show up in the lineup with the Demon Lord and her generals despite being at the meeting a few episodes ago.


She's there, she is just way in the background and barely visible.

EDIT:


I'm probably wrong, but my thought is that we havent seen future Kumoko yet, and everything is just a red herring.

DurosKlav fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Mar 20, 2021

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
I just finished vol 4 and now I'm almost at where I'm at in the manga, and oh my god there's like at least 6 more books!? How.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Raenir Salazar posted:

I just finished vol 4 and now I'm almost at where I'm at in the manga, and oh my god there's like at least 6 more books!? How.

Almost halfway!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Nitrousoxide posted:

Almost halfway!

I wish there was a way I could TVIV/Lets Read the book, because I imagine the LN thread would be amused by my thoughts and speculation. Because there's a lot that goes on; like the manga is detailed compared to the anime and then the LN is detailed compared to the manga, and it lends itself to an almost ASOIAF level of food for thought.

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S


Hey, does anyone remember that time, when that thing happened?

All the way back in episode 3?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
Wasn't he blasted by the Earth dragon?

e: I rewatched the scene and huh, that's interesting. A blast comes in level with the ground in a straight line and this basically disintegrates their teacher; but the dragon seems to have a fire breath weapon (or just coloured in a way that indicates its explosive and powerful?) and the dragon attacks the students from rising from under the ground, which isn't the direction the attack came from.

e2:

AtomikKrab posted:

Earth Dragon used a petrification attack I think.

If you watch until the point Shun is looking at his teacher's last moments you see the body disintegrating and turn to ash which petrification wouldn't do.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Mar 20, 2021

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Earth Dragon used a petrification attack I think.

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Nitrousoxide posted:

As someone who's had to deal with wasp nests, unambiguously good.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

DurosKlav posted:

She's there, she is just way in the background and barely visible.

EDIT:


I'm probably wrong, but my thought is that we havent seen future Kumoko yet, and everything is just a red herring.

Good eye, now I got to rethink some things.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

WrightOfWay posted:

She seemed pretty determined to save the world in this episode, but what exactly that entails is hard to say at this point.

Well, yes, but she wants to save the world for selfish reasons, like the fact that she'd die, too, if the world ended.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Bobulus posted:

Well, yes, but she wants to save the world for selfish reasons, like the fact that she'd die, too, if the world ended.

Yes. As the ending theme points out quite nicely, her main concern is "I don't want to die! Uwwwwaaahhh!" So far, she mostly reacted to things which disagreed with that notion. Having the world die complicates things a bit.
I think she would have been perfectly content hanging around her house and eating struggling monsters, until that was burned down and she was actively hunted. From there on, it was a power trip to ensure that would never happen again. Also the high level monsters taste just way to good to not kill and eat.
Now I sort of wonder, if she tasted those pesky humans which showed up recently.

I did like how she was crushing on the dragon for his magnificent carnation skills.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Mar 20, 2021

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Raenir Salazar posted:

I wish there was a way I could TVIV/Lets Read the book, because I imagine the LN thread would be amused by my thoughts and speculation. Because there's a lot that goes on; like the manga is detailed compared to the anime and then the LN is detailed compared to the manga, and it lends itself to an almost ASOIAF level of food for thought.

You can just drop a post into the spoiler thread without reading any of the other posts there about your thoughts as you complete books. Or write them down and do a compilation post when you finish and are caught up with spoilers.

When I was working my way through JoJos bizarre adventure I essentially did the former in the JoJo thread.

Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Mar 20, 2021

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

Bobulus posted:

So episode 11 is basically all just setup for the next episode. That's fine, I'm not surprised, but I imagine people watching this story for the first time will be a little underwhelmed.

I did think the Taboo presentation was pretty well done, though. The hammering 'Repent' was very effective. The funny thing is, the manga has prolonged the Taboo reveal so long, that the anime probably gave more info here than readers have gotten.


'Everyme' loving killed me.

You're correct, I don't remember anything about Taboo from the manga (but I had already spoiled myself by looking at the wiki).

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

cant cook creole bream posted:

Yes. As the ending theme points out quite nicely, her main concern is "I don't want to die! Uwwwwaaahhh!" So far, she mostly reacted to things which disagreed with that notion. Having the world die complicates things a bit.
I think she would have been perfectly content hanging around her house and eating struggling monsters, until that was burned down and she was actively hunted. From there on, it was a power trip to ensure that would never happen again. Also the high level monsters taste just way to good to not kill and eat.

Actually, if we consult Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs...



(which is a simplified framework for the way humans will try to live their lives, requiring the lower stages before they can attempt the higher stages)

...our spider protagonist spent the first eight or nine episodes stuck right at the first stage, physiological needs. Fighting for food, attempting to set up a shelter, just struggling for survival, etc. It was only when she returned to the upper layer and actually had a degree of safety that she started thinking towards the future. Now she's at stage 2: preparing for future safety, health, property. This, perhaps understandably, has not left a lot of room for love or belonging in her spidery heart.

MadMadi
Mar 16, 2012

I'm absolutely loving all of the anime-only theories! Please keep them coming!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Nitrousoxide posted:

You can just drop a post into the spoiler thread without reading any of the other posts there about your thoughts as you complete books. Or write them down and do a compilation post when you finish and are caught up with spoilers.

When I was working my way through JoJos bizarre adventure I essentially did the former in the JoJo thread.

Sadly I think I've forgotten some of my observations, but I'll see what I can do!

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
I've finished book six but can't find vol 7 in paperback in either amazon or chapters what the hell.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Raenir Salazar posted:

I've finished book six but can't find vol 7 in paperback in either amazon or chapters what the hell.

Link removed

If you're blasting through a bunch of novels an e-reader might make sense. Each book you buy as an ebook probably saves you ~3-4 dollars and that adds up to a pretty good chunk of the purchase price of the e-reader pretty quickly if you read a lot.

Also LN 7 is a real wild ride. Probably the wackiest one in the entire series.

Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Mar 20, 2021

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
(to be safe for the anime only and manga first readers feel free to edit out the link!)

Thanks for the link but I am Canadian so I'm not sure if I can order from B&N but I'll give it a shot! Worst case I'll probably surrender to my Spider addiction and order the ebook versions soon.

e: RIP doesn't seem they do, so ebook it is.

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 20, 2021

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Yen Press doesn't do a good job of keeping the middle volumes of the light novels they print in, err, in print.

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Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Yeah that is yen presses major fault is they let books fall out of print

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