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A New Dad posted:*gasping for the last molecules of oxygen in the atmosphere* thank god... we didnt do... an imperialism *taking a deep breath of pure, fresh air as I wipe the blood of the last brazilian child off my boots* "thank god... we finally stopped them before somebody made us plant a tree in the US"
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"Why is Brazil not preserving their trees for the sake of my breathable oxygen" I say, as I wipe my rear end with oxygen producing trees
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Mar 20, 2021 20:16
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Kaedric posted:*watching as one of the last indigenous people of brazil is gunned down with their family as they reach toward us begging for help* Sorry friend, the people of your country have spoken, and they wanted to grow their economy, like we other first world nations have. It would be hypocritical for us to help you in any way, you see. there is no 'us' that is willing and able to help them, you dolt
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Mar 20, 2021 20:16
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Lostconfused posted:
Yes lmao
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Kaedric posted:*watching as one of the last indigenous people of brazil is gunned down with their family as they reach toward us begging for help* Sorry friend, the people of your country have spoken, and they wanted to grow their economy, like we other first world nations have. It would be hypocritical for us to help you in any way, you see. H O W Finicums Wake posted:there is no 'us' that is willing and able to help them, you dolt it's this the whole thing is a loving shell game and you guys keep pointing at a cup thinking there's going to be a ball underneath it
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Mar 20, 2021 20:19
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Finicums Wake posted:there is no 'us' that is willing and able to help them, you dolt Dawg I already said that. I'm arguing with THE IDEA that we SHOULDN'T help them. I have no illusions about the shittiness of america.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:19
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Mirthless posted:"Why is Brazil not preserving their trees for the sake of my breathable oxygen" I say, as I wipe my rear end with oxygen producing trees Walmart was out of the shells okay
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Mar 20, 2021 20:20
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Kaedric posted:Dawg I already said that. I'm arguing with THE IDEA that we SHOULDN'T help them. I have no illusions about the shittiness of america. No, you are arguing with me pointing out the reality that there is no way to help them without putting on combat boots and jumping into a loving helicopter You want to clutch at pearls about it but you don't want to acknowledge the loving reality of what you're asking!
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Mar 20, 2021 20:20
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Mirthless posted:*taking a deep breath of pure, fresh air as I wipe the blood of the last brazilian child off my boots* "thank god... we finally stopped them before somebody made us plant a tree in the US" yeah just replant the rainforest lol
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Mar 20, 2021 20:20
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As long as the economic incentive to kill the biosphere exist it will die and it doesn't matter who's pulling the trigger because everyone else would do the same
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Mar 20, 2021 20:21
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you’re basically arguing to use nuclear weapons on the trees of the Amazon cause that’s where this leads
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Mar 20, 2021 20:21
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All I am saying is, before you criticise Jair Bolsonaro, why don’t you try walking a mile in his shoes
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Mar 20, 2021 20:21
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Lostconfused posted:That depends on if you want to still have human civilization around next century or not, but also not just Brazil. *me, in a helicopter and shouting over a megaphone to the uncontacted tribe below* The entirety of human civilization doesn't hinge on the existence of the brazilian rainforest and even if it did, trees can literally be easily replaced, the only reason we don't build man-made rainforests is that they don't serve any commercial purpose and are hellishly expensive to build.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:21
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it's like we're all still chasing that high after ww2, history reached its apex and all we're left with is a series of shark jumping that never comes close to making us feel like we did/do about that
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Mar 20, 2021 20:23
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Mirthless posted:"Why is Brazil not preserving their trees for the sake of my breathable oxygen" I say, as I wipe my rear end with oxygen producing trees I'd be very curious to know your feelings on even less economically-useful conservation, like endangered animals. Should they all be wiped out for car parks and factories? Anacondas and tree frogs don't even produce oxygen, those freeloaders. The enormously complex ecosystem of the Amazon is literally irreplacable, no matter how many trees America plants it is impossible to replicate the rainforest without tens of millions of years of growth Sure, it may be impossible to stop without a worldwide socialist movement that can put an end to the capitalist need for endless growth to the point of self-destruction, but in the meantime it's not at all helpful to tell people they're not allowed to be upset that a unique and precious part of the planet is being destroyed
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Mar 20, 2021 20:23
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A New Dad posted:yeah just replant the rainforest lol it comes in seed packs. u just throw handfuls of seeds out in a field and boom, amazon rainforest
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Kaedric posted:Dawg I already said that. I'm arguing with THE IDEA that we SHOULDN'T help them. I have no illusions about the shittiness of america. but since we don't live in that world, and it is a far ways off, i struggle to see the point of arguing one way or the other over the mere IDEA of helping
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Mar 20, 2021 20:24
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clearcutting the rainforest serves two laudable goals: the trees can be turned into pulp to make the mcdonalds cartons and bags to contain the burgers sourced from the cattle farms now occupying the former rainforest
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Mar 20, 2021 20:25
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CountryMatters posted:I'd be very curious to know your feelings on even less economically-useful conservation, like endangered animals. Should they all be wiped out for car parks and factories? Anacondas and tree frogs don't even produce oxygen, those freeloaders. The enormously complex ecosystem of the Amazon is literally irreplacable, no matter how many trees America plants it is impossible to replicate the rainforest without tens of millions of years of growth One look at how reforestation goes in the us should be enough to convince people how dumb this train of thought is
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Mar 20, 2021 20:26
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im going to learn the language of an indigenous people so I can tell them in their native language that their colonialist attitude is hurting future generations
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Mar 20, 2021 20:27
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you can just send an apocalypse robot into the past and use your chrono trigger to jump back to your now replanted forest
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Mar 20, 2021 20:28
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the example set by the carbon credit trading programs is a model that can be applied to the amazon rainforest. companies can trade deforestation credits on the open market and policy makers can use credits to incentivize useful development
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Mar 20, 2021 20:30
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mawarannahr posted:you’re basically arguing to use nuclear weapons on the trees of the Amazon cause that’s where this leads Gotta nuke somethin
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Mar 20, 2021 20:32
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heavy equipment operation is a valuable skill. timber-cutting operations in the rainforest are critical for both on-the-job training in bulldozer operation and future jobs.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:33
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comedyblissoption posted:you can just send an apocalypse robot into the past and use your chrono trigger to jump back to your now replanted forest Gotta beat a dickish giant skeleton boss first tho.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:36
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I for one am looking forward to visiting lush, tropical Antarctica.
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let brazil burn down the amazon rainforest because we can plant trees in the united states is an extremely galaxy brained take lmao
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Mar 20, 2021 20:37
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shame on you all for criticizing the brazillian people in their attempts to build up from tourism and simple resource extraction to a proper industrialized economy. everyone speaks favorably about protectionist measures to grow domestic industry until a 3rd world nation tries to take those steps.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:37
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Majorian posted:Gotta beat a dickish giant skeleton boss first tho. Need an anime princess or emo wizard for the ice magic too.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:38
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Mirthless posted:*taking a deep breath of pure, fresh air as I wipe the blood of the last brazilian child off my boots* "thank god... we finally stopped them before somebody made us plant a tree in the US" this is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on this website
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Mar 20, 2021 20:40
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CountryMatters posted:I agree, environmentalism is bullshit. America and Europe had their turn pumping poison into the sky and burning down the world, so now everyone else has to have a turn too or it won't be fair. If there's no planet left afterwards then that's a small price to pay for justice Yeah this is called equity. Once one group gets to do something they have to step aside and let every other group do it too, otherwise you're in favor of white supremacist settler colonialism
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CountryMatters posted:I'd be very curious to know your feelings on even less economically-useful conservation, like endangered animals. Should they all be wiped out for car parks and factories? Anacondas and tree frogs don't even produce oxygen, those freeloaders. The enormously complex ecosystem of the Amazon is literally irreplacable, no matter how many trees America plants it is impossible to replicate the rainforest without tens of millions of years of growth Pretty much every cool or attractive animal and plant in the amazon is being kept alive in either the pet trade or in zoos, and while that's not great, programs that practice wild release from captivity seem to have some measure of success so it's possible to bring back some animals. Can it be replaced completely? No. A new ecosystem can be built. And artificial ecosystems build up surprisingly quickly - we used to have the same notions about wetlands. quote:Sure, it may be impossible to stop without a worldwide socialist movement that can put an end to the capitalist need for endless growth to the point of self-destruction, but in the meantime it's not at all helpful to tell people they're not allowed to be upset that a unique and precious part of the planet is being destroyed The problem I have with this viewpoint is that it seems to handwave away the point that we'd be freezing our growth with America at the top, forever This isn't "the capitalist need for endless growth", this is "the brazilian need for basic housing and infrastructure"
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Mar 20, 2021 20:41
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comedyblissoption posted:you can just send an apocalypse robot into the past and use your chrono trigger to jump back to your now replanted forest yeah but then you have to go back in time and save your nerdy friend's mother from an industrial accident and it's so loving contrived I just can't even
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the global paper, lumber, and pulpwood trade is too much under the control of corporations based in Canada and the United States. Opposition to Brazil's efforts to expand their timber industry are obviously driven by paid agents of Canadian and US timber companies.
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Mar 20, 2021 20:42
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tmfc posted:this is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on this website Are you sure about that? I mean, I was replying to a guy who thought all the oxygen in the USA would run out if all the trees in Brazil went away
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Mar 20, 2021 20:42
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I've been keeping my seed in jars when I could have been leaving it in the forest
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Mar 20, 2021 20:42
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Lmfao barely even been 2 months since the detrumpening and leftists already chomping at the bit to invade Brazil
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Mar 20, 2021 20:42
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Biomass fueled power plants will be critical in averting climate change. Brazil is positioned to be the world leader in this upcoming system of power generation and can be real player in the energy economy
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Mar 20, 2021 20:44
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Frumply posted:let brazil burn down the amazon rainforest because we can plant trees in the united states is an extremely galaxy brained take lmao Why do you think it's your place to "let" Brazilians do anything, and how do you intend to enforce your right to those trees
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The Amazon Rainforest is probably the greatest feat of human bio-engineering in history and it's being destroyed for no reason. And America/Canada is 100% complicit.
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