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The main thing I want MHA to do is to remember the girl heroes still exist more often, otherwise very good, love the art, characters neat and so on.
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Mar 21, 2021 00:33
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that's fairly generalized, but I get it. The show adaptations of shonen jump series are particularly awful because they, before a shakeup recently starting iirc with MHA, were in a "must release a new episode every single week" so there's literally over 900 episodes of one piece even though there's only a bit over a thousand chapters to adapt from. There's tons of filler in the anime and insane pacing issues, there's one part that is like 3 panels in the manga stretched out over an entire episode. I guess what I'm saying is read the manga if you're going to check out a series and look up scenes from the anime afterwards if you want to see them in action/voiced. With One Piece there's also something someone's been making called "One Pace" which condenses like half a dozen episodes of the anime at a time into a single episode, cutting all the chaff, and I've heard amazing things about that. But there's a reason the manga is one of the best selling comic books(not just manga) of all time, One Piece's world, characters, storytelling, and the way it makes you feel like things are happening more than just around the main characters is second to none. It's really something else. And the way it handles death in the series is generally pretty good. A bit ridiculous at times, but when characters die, they stay dead, with one very notable and good exception. I recommend Super Eyepatch Wolf's videos on why/how you should watch/read One Piece. It's a monumental series to jump into, but man, it's a loving hell of a ride, and one of those "once you catch up, you hunger for more" types of series. Reading up through Arlong Park, which is basically the prologue of the series, is what most folks will recommend. The artstyle is certainly a divisive point, but it's also one of those things you adapt to extraordinarily quickly once you're actually reading it. Except how Oda's artstyle for women becomes ridiculous later on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZqnC-eVwrE&hd=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtz2ZhKxFE&hd=1
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Mar 21, 2021 00:35
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Captain Invictus posted:Except how Oda's artstyle for women becomes ridiculous later on. It bugs me so much man, that and never forget the anime doing a cool thing and giving Nico Robin a tan, which then gets robbed from her thanks to lame idiots.  
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Mar 21, 2021 00:38
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CharlestheHammer posted:Filler isn’t really a thing anymore at least for seasonal anime as they don’t need to produce weekly episodes every week and try not and overtake the manga it was based on well that shows how out of touch i am with alot of anime stuff in general. Captain Invictus posted:that's fairly generalized, but I get it. The show adaptations of shonen jump series are particularly awful because they, before a shakeup recently starting iirc with MHA, were in a "must release a new episode every single week" so there's literally over 900 episodes of one piece even though there's only a bit over a thousand chapters to adapt from. There's tons of filler in the anime and insane pacing issues, there's one part that is like 3 panels in the manga stretched out over an entire episode. thanks. i have thought about getting into it at some point.
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Mar 21, 2021 00:38
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well that shows how out of touch i am with alot of anime stuff in general. I mean they still exist but only two anime do it. Black Clover which is ending and will come back seasonal, and One Piece which is eternal and will never end. Check out Jujutsu Kaisen it’s the current hot shonen and is just ending it’s first season
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Mar 21, 2021 00:46
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Yardbomb posted:It bugs me so much man, that and never forget the anime doing a cool thing and giving Nico Robin a tan, which then gets robbed from her thanks to lame idiots. Dapper_Swindler posted:well that shows how out of touch i am with alot of anime stuff in general. the one piece world is some crazy poo poo, like forget the characters etc(though they're fantastic as well), the geography, geology, animals, weather, everything is so nuts but somehow you basically never question it, it's just a wild-rear end setting and works so well.
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Mar 21, 2021 00:47
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Re: Legend of Korra, the first season is alright, season 2 is some of the worst TV I've ever seen, and season 4 is amazing. The comics are really good as well, so if you only want to experience one medium of Korra you can read those instead (they're not adaptations). Yardbomb posted:It bugs me so much man, that and never forget the anime doing a cool thing and giving Nico Robin a tan, which then gets robbed from her thanks to lame idiots. Oof, I never noticed this. Every female character getting a wasp waist post-timeskip distracted me from the whitewashing. 
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Mar 21, 2021 00:47
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think my biggest hurtle getting into shonen is i dislike stuff with tons and tons of filler(which is ironic because i like Asscreed games and big rpgs) like i am sure the stories are great and cool but i can't get past the "lets have a 10 episode arc where we gently caress around on a side quest that won't mean poo poo until 300 episodes from now) or "the planet will explode in 5 mins" or the thing i hate in DBZ where its just Number battles after a while. like alprads video on the lovely game shows why i dislike those shows and many of the games based on them. because they are just the same story line over and over and death is meaningless most of the time. You've probably heard this time and time again but check out Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. The first part is 9 episodes and then it's done. And it's up to you if you want to continue past that. JordanKai posted:Re: Legend of Korra, the first season is alright, season 2 is some of the worst TV I've ever seen, and season 4 is amazing. The comics are really good as well, so if you only want to experience one medium of Korra you can read those instead (they're not adaptations). I think seasons 3 and 4 are when they finally figured out what they wanted to do with the show and it got really solid. And I don't know what the hell happened with Robin. It's been a weird thing that happens with Square Enix but I don't have any other examples off the top of my head. https://twitter.com/Loudwindow/status/1362963205824290830 RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Mar 21, 2021 |
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Mar 21, 2021 00:47
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Also don't skip JoJo parts no matter what incredibly wrong people on the internet might say, all the stand stuff comes in Part 3 onward, but 1 and 2 are great.
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Mar 21, 2021 00:51
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Part 1 and 2 kind of suck and part 3 goes on way to long. The rest are okay but rely way to much on exposition for stuff you can figure out yourself
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Mar 21, 2021 00:55
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Yardbomb posted:Also don't skip JoJo parts no matter what incredibly wrong people on the internet might say, all the stand stuff comes in Part 3 onward, but 1 and 2 are great. 
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Mar 21, 2021 00:55
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Part 2 is the best and greatly improves Part 3.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:08
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In what world is Part 2 not great
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Mar 21, 2021 01:16
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I mean outside of Joseph it’s pretty boring and one of the Hereros is a Nazi that it tries to get around it by just never mentioning it
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Mar 21, 2021 01:19
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The Pillar Men are cool antags though.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:20
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I don’t care about them but their theme song from the anime is extremely memorable
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Mar 21, 2021 01:24
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Hel posted:Not really, most of the pushback I see as a relative outsider are POC being sick of the unfiltered stuff leading to a lot of racist fan fiction, which signals that the space isn't for them. So it's not fan fiction of all stripes, it's fan fiction by people who aren't pushed away or excluded by the lovely stuff that they allow. If a fandom is particularly racist, take it up with the fandom (or, y'know...don't, and stay in your lane and curate your own experience of the internet). The mission statement of the archive itself is fine, laudable even.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:26
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Captain Invictus posted:according to Oda, iirc her "earth" origin would be Egypt, so it really sucks she's been whitewashed. thanks. maybe next month.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:29
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Out of all the ways that people tried to recommend JoJo to me, the one that worked best was Chip and Ironicus podcast. ...But for some reason I can't find the dub for parts 1 & 2 anywhere. Well, nowhere legal anyway.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:31
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The only Jojo parts I've actually finished are 2, 3 and 4, and 3 is bad and I should have just dropped it. The training arc stuff in 2 up until about when mr Nazi reappears is really good but 4 is definitely the best part. I got I think about 25% into 7 and lost interest. It had a lot going for it honestly - main character, art, better connection between chapters than most other parts. But every chapter just felt like it was going through the motions and giving me deja vu from part 3. And at least part 3 promised Dio at the end, at the point I gave up I had no excitement or interest about the end of the journey in 7.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:32
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That’s funny considering most Jojo fans consider 7 the best one
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Mar 21, 2021 01:33
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I concur that *most* of the pushback I see on AO3 is the puritanical poo poo. The racist problem - which is being talked about from board memebers on down the line to individual users - is going to be much harder to solve because the tagging system is built around authors either acknowledging that there is a rape scene and tagging it non-con or tagging it "here be dragons." A racist author is obviously not going to be doing either one of those things. So you are back to individually vetting each fic, and with over 10 million fanworks that would be impossible with the budget they have. There is an option where you can just read a currated set of fics by going though a collection, but that still requires a human to sit and vet every fic to make sure that it isn't racist before adding it to a "Not Racist Falcon and the Winter Solider Fanfiction" for example. None of the other, non-curated fic sites that I've seen - even the one that is explicitly anti-racist in it's rules - has cracked this particular nut. Hell, I don't think the Amazon publishing arm has solved this either.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:45
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CharlestheHammer posted:That’s funny considering most Jojo fans consider 7 the best one Yeah that's why I decided to read it. I imagine it's like 4 where the really good stuff starts later on or something but I wasn't really invested in getting there.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:46
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Alacron posted:Out of all the ways that people tried to recommend JoJo to me, the one that worked best was Chip and Ironicus podcast. Netflix has it.
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Mar 21, 2021 01:53
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RareAcumen posted:You've probably heard this time and time again but check out Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. The first part is 9 episodes and then it's done. And it's up to you if you want to continue past that. i'm pretty sure the y'shtola one is just a very slight difference in lighting?
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Mar 21, 2021 01:55
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Scholtz posted:Netflix has it. All I'm seeing is Part 3  Is this one of those things I'm gonna need a VPN for?
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Mar 21, 2021 01:58
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Augus posted:i'm pretty sure the y'shtola one is just a very slight difference in lighting? no she's gotten very much paler
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Mar 21, 2021 02:00
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Twincityhacker posted:I concur that *most* of the pushback I see on AO3 is the puritanical poo poo. Why would amazon want to get rid of racism? They can profit from it and will probably keep doing so until credit card companies complain(which is never going to happen). What you can do when you have rules is have a reporting system, you don't need to vet everything ahead of time but you can respond to it when it happens and then remove or tag it afterwards. Compare it to this forum, I'm free to write a post with ~50k letters of whatever I want and no one is going to vet it ahead of time, but if I break the rules it can be reported and edited and I get probated/banned. The real problem with Ao3 being a free for all is that it isn't really just an archive, it's a publishing platform, and they really should have thought about stuff like this before launching because changing when it's live is so much harder and the damageis already done.
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Mar 21, 2021 02:02
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RareAcumen posted:You've probably heard this time and time again but check out Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. The first part is 9 episodes and then it's done. And it's up to you if you want to continue past that. i have heard good poo poo about jo jo. on that tweet. yeah square is loving BAAAD with black characters/white washing. but i think but outsides the neir tribesmen and chick on the far right. the rest are all white/"white". its just bad lighting/old graphics/etc. like they have a very good point but it feels like some of the examples are badly shown. Scholtz posted:Netflix has it. poo poo nice.
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Mar 21, 2021 02:05
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Alacron posted:All I'm seeing is Part 3 poo poo, my bad. They had Part 2 as the art for it so I just figured. Looks like its on Hulu though.
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Mar 21, 2021 02:19
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Scholtz posted:poo poo, my bad. They had Part 2 as the art for it so I just figured. Looks like its on Hulu though. They did have the first couple of parts but they cycled out recently.
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Mar 21, 2021 02:26
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JordanKai posted:Re: Legend of Korra, the first season is alright, season 2 is some of the worst TV I've ever seen, and season 4 is amazing. The comics are really good as well, so if you only want to experience one medium of Korra you can read those instead (they're not adaptations). My gut impression of Legend of Korra is that an established creative team made it a point to step out of their usual comfort zone, only to frequently demonstrate the perils of not sticking to what you're good at. Film Crit Hulk had a similar idea: Film Crit Hulk watches Season 1, Episode 12 posted:Going into this episode I mused, “I can’t believe this was written by the same people!” Dapper_Swindler posted:on that tweet. yeah square is loving BAAAD with black characters/white washing. but i think but outsides the neir tribesmen and chick on the far right. the rest are all white/"white". its just bad lighting/old graphics/etc. like they have a very good point but it feels like some of the examples are badly shown. Gaius (third from the left) does actually have a brown skin tone in game. I dunno what the gently caress's going on with that concept art. Solitair fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Mar 21, 2021 |
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Mar 21, 2021 02:48
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And anyone wonders why piracy still persists, all these sites are trying to recreate the divided all to hell TV package problems that spurred so much of it before.
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Mar 21, 2021 02:49
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Scholtz posted:poo poo, my bad. They had Part 2 as the art for it so I just figured. Looks like its on Hulu though. SO IT IS, thank you!
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Mar 21, 2021 03:01
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Insurrectionist posted:Yeah that's why I decided to read it. I imagine it's like 4 where the really good stuff starts later on or something but I wasn't really invested in getting there. SBR is really slow to get really interesting, especially coming off how batshit nuts Stone Ocean gets. Somewhere around the Blackmore fight is where it picked up for me.
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Mar 21, 2021 03:50
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I love Part 7 from day one because it's all about Gyro and Johnny.
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Mar 21, 2021 04:36
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Mar 21, 2021 05:15
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Archer666 posted:completely checked out during the Gentle thief thing
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Mar 21, 2021 06:00
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Dapper_Swindler posted:on that tweet. yeah square is loving BAAAD with black characters/white washing. but i think but outsides the neir tribesmen and chick on the far right. the rest are all white/"white". its just bad lighting/old graphics/etc. like they have a very good point but it feels like some of the examples are badly shown. I mean, insofar as y'shtola has an ethnicity (given that she's a fuckin anime catgirl in a jrpg) she both started out with a noticeably darker tone than she currently does and comes from a people who live in the desert and tend to be, at the least, noticeably tanned on average.
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Mar 21, 2021 06:28
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Augus posted:i'm pretty sure the y'shtola one is just a very slight difference in lighting? From ARR through to Stormblood her character model had the same skin tone (#A88369). In Shadowbringers her skin tone shifted to a lighter shade (#CEA382). This could probably be explained by her starting to lose her tan by living in the shade the entire time, but who knows. As for Gaius, yeah that's just the artist being weird.
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