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Nuns with Guns)
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Personally I'd say it's about 24-25 before you can comfortably stop giving a poo poo about the age difference in a relationship between two people. The early twenties are a developmental time for still doing dumb poo poo and learning how to be a functional independent adult. e; gently caress sniped
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:26 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:19 |
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this is serial experiments lain, not one piece
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:26 |
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It's between https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUW2hRQkegM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3gI-E_vqVA for me.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:29 |
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https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/1373754145497350146 I saw it as a screen shot and thought it was a joke, but no he actually just tweeted this
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:29 |
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Zetsubou-san posted:this is serial experiments lain, not one piece yeah its better
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:30 |
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not it's duvet by boa what are you talking about
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:33 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o84y-5-cO0
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:33 |
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btw best one piece OP is crazy rainbow
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:37 |
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BFC posted:I chose 21 because alcohol access is a key factor in grooming. I have seen it first hand. The old rule/guideline I've heard is "half your age plus 7 is the border into creep town" Which, uh, yeah this fails that particular test.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:38 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pHQuCezmLE
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:38 |
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Alacron posted:The old rule/guideline I've heard is "half your age plus 7 is the border into creep town"
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:40 |
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Here's a good thread with breakdowns about how Dan acts without the stink of GrumpRants on it, if it helps folks. https://twitter.com/duskspook/status/1373759396212264963
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:43 |
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BFC posted:21 year olds shouldn't be propositioning sex from 17 year olds imo I'd be careful there, Romeo and Juliet laws exist and they're not there for "ephebophiles" to get their kicks safely.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:43 |
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I always thought this op was pretty underrated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6AZA810FA
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:43 |
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Dias posted:I'd be careful there, Romeo and Juliet laws exist and they're not there for "ephebophiles" to get their kicks safely. I don't think anyone's saying it should literally be illegal to have an age gap but yea I kinda think it's weird if you're old enough to be out of college to be dropping your partner off at fuckin high school, that's a weird dynamic even if it may not be literally a crime.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:44 |
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BFC posted:21 year olds shouldn't be propositioning sex from 17 year olds imo Well yeah, you round up so it'd be eighteen Sorry if this came off as creepy, I'm making bad jokes to try and cope with my favorite dick joke maker being a creep.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:45 |
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sexpig by night posted:I don't think anyone's saying it should literally be illegal to have an age gap but yea I kinda think it's weird if you're old enough to be out of college to be dropping your partner off at fuckin high school, that's a weird dynamic even if it may not be literally a crime. 17 and 21 are college ages in Brazil, plus give it a few months and it's usually 18 and 21, which to me sounds completely a-okay so I'unno, bigger fish to fry, especially when the laws are in place because PoC got hosed over that way too often. edit: mind you, I actually didn't date much during college because I was like 16 when I got in and I thought it was really weird dating people still in high school so I get that part. Just...be careful when you're closer to that side of the spectrum, I guess.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:46 |
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Once everybody involved are all adults then loving whatever. But there's a reason why an 18 year old having sex with a 14 year old is a criminal offense that can land you in jail, but a 28 year old dating a 24 year old won't even draw an raised eyebrow. People undergo a huge amount of mental development in their teens, and not in a "you get older and learn more" way, but in a "physical parts of your brain that literally did not function a year ago are functioning now." It's not right, it's never right, and being a funny guy on the internet does not justify it. If a 42 year old and a 22 year old meet up, hit it off, and decide they want to gently caress, then honestly good for them and gently caress you for judging. If a legal adult of any age engages in sexually explicit interactions with somebody who is underage, the adult in the equation is a loving creep even if they wait until the other party is of age to engage in sexual activity. I don't see how this is hard.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:47 |
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Dias posted:I'd be careful there, Romeo and Juliet laws exist and they're not there for "ephebophiles" to get their kicks safely. Gwen fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Mar 22, 2021 |
# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:48 |
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Mushishi was really good and I need to go rewatch it.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:49 |
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BFC posted:there's a very big difference from being in a pre-existing relationship with someone 4 years younger than you that started when you were underaged and seeking out 17 year olds when you're 21. I think that would actually be worse in the former scenario, you get 18 and 14 and they're both in school.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:50 |
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in my experience high school seniors dated freshman and I guess you can find that strange but eh it happens.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:53 |
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BFC posted:in my experience high school seniors dated freshman and I guess you can find that strange but eh it happens. In my experience people date in college and they're 17 and 21 so you get what I mean about being careful, right? It's fine to not want to do it or feel uncomfortable, just there's a history there we gotta keep in mind in these discussions. Also, like, there's some other factors to take into consideration, Brazil has a drinking age of 18 and it's barely enforced so alcohol access is less of a factor when it comes to grooming, for instance.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:56 |
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I getcha message received it's really more the access to alcohol that's my problem specifically with the age and it's strictly a USA thing
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 02:58 |
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every single high schooler in the world thought that the high school seniors banging freshmen were creepazoids tho
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:01 |
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BFC posted:I getcha message received Yeah, yeah, to be fair that's an important factor too, so when you get closer to the legal age gap you start running into actual nuance, unlike a 42 year-old dude engaging underaged fans and eventually getting a hookup out of it. edit: it's even more hosed up because I'm a teacher in my late 20s and there's no way I'd date a student even after they turned 21, 22 because poo poo, I knew them when they were teens. It's a weird-rear end dynamic even if it's not illegal, and if you make it a pattern, that's even worse. Dias fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Mar 22, 2021 |
# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:02 |
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Impermanent posted:every single high schooler in the world thought that the high school seniors banging freshmen were creepazoids tho
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:06 |
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I live in the UK where the age of Consent is 16 and I think this is all gross as poo poo. The legality of the ages involved is missing the point that this person has a clear pattern of contacting young fans, building a rapport over several years then loving them before breaking off all contact. I don't want that dude front and centre on a youtube channel targeted at teens! Like if a 22 year old meets a 42 year old and they instantly fall in love and have have consensual sex sure who cares but that's not what's being accused here.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:08 |
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I agree I just got challenged specifically on the age specifics of my own personal criteria of where the line is but it doesn't change the evidence that dan is a sex pest grooming piece of poo poo e; actually no I don't care about the ghosting element. the one-night stand element is the opposite of important here. stop bringing up something that is, at worst, a dick move next to loving grooming. Gwen fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Mar 22, 2021 |
# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:11 |
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I remember some general tweets and remarks from female video critics to the effect of “you wouldn’t believe how important it is to keep receipts on everyone you meet in this line of work.” I’ve only recently begun to have context that observation and the kind of hosed-up poo poo that must happen given what becomes public.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:20 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I remember some general tweets and remarks from female video critics to the effect of you wouldnt believe how important it is to keep receipts on everyone you meet in this line of work. Ive only recently begun to have context that observation and the kind of hosed-up poo poo that must happen given what becomes public. Unfortunately that seems like a thing women and other minorities have to keep in mind in basically every single industry. If you work in a field that has a lot of rotativity and "big names" you'll eventually hear stories about X or Y being a piece of poo poo and as a worker you're usually only able to give other people warnings.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:27 |
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What the gently caress happened in this thread while I wasn't looking?
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 03:58 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:What the gently caress happened in this thread while I wasn't looking? talkin about anime OPs and grooming probably not the first time the two have gone together
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:01 |
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/1373754145497350146 Holy poo poo, gently caress off JonTron. I am really bummed out about this. I hadn't heard about the prior accusations before, so hearing about all of this now has been a real gut punch
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:05 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:What the gently caress happened in this thread while I wasn't looking? You can always read it, y'know. TLDR is Dan from Game Grumps is a sex pest. haha danny sexpest
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:12 |
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sexpig by night posted:Here's a good thread with breakdowns about how Dan acts without the stink of GrumpRants on it, if it helps folks. fitting Clip-On Fedora posted:I always thought this op was pretty underrated: I've always enjoyed Share the World, myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF_5E1wBsVk&hd=1
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:16 |
Because there haven't been enough lovely opinions posted, here's mine: a lot of people's defense of what the guy does and did tends to focus on the fact that "he's just being nice to his fans" and "she wasn't a minor when they had sex!" but like. Even if we shove aside the power imbalance and stuff - not a single guy has come forward saying something like "Yeah when I was like sixteen this guy took me out on a rad dinner date and we had a cool day together" or anything. He's not just being a cool dude to his fans He's specifically targeting young, just slightly underaged girls who idolize him, befriending them and taking them out on (non-sexual) dates before coming back a few years later to gently caress them. That's real creepy and hosed up. If he wasn't a super famous youtuber and was, instead, a teacher or something people would be out for blood calling him a predator instead of making every excuse in the book to do it. Instead of, you know, trying to weasel in an accusation of it all being fake because it was posted on a lovely subreddit when the number of places to post that poo poo are fairly limited.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:21 |
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Friend of the Grumps and occasional guest Thomas Middletitch also got outed today as a groper. I don't think it means anything, but it's just a tragic, infuriating coincidence.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:23 |
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What's the German word for clout that only buys you a timeline full of boogers yelling at you for existing.
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# ? Mar 22, 2021 04:31 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 13:19 |
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Dias posted:You can always read it, y'know. TLDR is Dan from Game Grumps is a sex pest. I did read it, jackass. That was a rhetorical question because of how loving stupid arguing about whether or not something is technically grooming is. e- and nobody needs to be loving speculating on the exact age range when this kind of relationship is exploitative and creepy or tut-tutting about Romeo and Juliet laws around this loving poo poo either. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Mar 22, 2021 |
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