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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Failed Imagineer posted:

E: ^^^ lmao somebody make the appropriate "sweating kier choosing between two buttons" comic please

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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Rarity posted:

'No need for inquiry into COVID handling' say people likely to be implicated by inquiry into COVID handling

My “no need for a COVID inquiry into avoidable deaths” T-shirt is sparking many questions already answered by said shirt.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


Amazing, copying all the easy Ls that Corbyn racked up with none of the positives.

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

namesake posted:

I'm not saying people should be hitting the streets and get rowdy against the cops just so they get stunning pictures of themselves but I'm not not saying that.

"OK officer, he wasn't arrested at the scene, how are you establishing identity?"

"There's about 30 pictures of him on public Instagram and Facebook groups where accounts in his name have said 'YEAH THAT'S ME AND I'D DO IT AGAIN, HOPE THE FEDS LIKE HOSPITAL FOOD'. And one in the local paper."

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Trin Tragula posted:

"OK officer, he wasn't arrested at the scene, how are you establishing identity?"

"There's about 30 pictures of him on public Instagram and Facebook groups where accounts in his name have said 'YEAH THAT'S ME AND I'D DO IT AGAIN, HOPE THE FEDS LIKE HOSPITAL FOOD'. And one in the local paper."

Ah the January 6 method of finding 'em.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Trin Tragula posted:

"OK officer, he wasn't arrested at the scene, how are you establishing identity?"

"There's about 30 pictures of him on public Instagram and Facebook groups where accounts in his name have said 'YEAH THAT'S ME AND I'D DO IT AGAIN, HOPE THE FEDS LIKE HOSPITAL FOOD'. And one in the local paper."

I mean, obviously you wear a mask and refuse to give your name when you're doing badass skateboard stunts in front of a burning police van.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Lining up protestors and making them do kickflips to identify the guilty party

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Trin Tragula posted:

"OK officer, he wasn't arrested at the scene, how are you establishing identity?"

"There's about 30 pictures of him on public Instagram and Facebook groups where accounts in his name have said 'YEAH THAT'S ME AND I'D DO IT AGAIN, HOPE THE FEDS LIKE HOSPITAL FOOD'. And one in the local paper."

It's essential that the press attend protests and that inevitably means pictures of participants so the best you can do is not carry your phone, mask up and not talk about it openly while also saving and sharing those pictures as cool things that happened to somebody.

Also mix up your wardrobe between demos, don't let a pattern develop just because you've got a cool hoodie.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Okay wait I'm sorry WHO is running for UKIP? https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1373979943709859842

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Wait wasn't that massive fascist also running for London Mayor?

No, the other one.

No, the other one.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Borrovan posted:

Wait wasn't that massive fascist also running for London Mayor?

No, the other one.

No, the other one.

I quite like the nickname he's been given in this one https://twitter.com/WillBlackWriter/status/1373990195272486916

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Yes. Dr Peter Gammons.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



That's just unreal. Also no sign of Laurence Fox? But he'll bring freedom back to London!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009



hahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Mixing up wardrobe especially includes shoes. Shoes are one of the most identifiable things on a person and I feel this is often overlooked. If you did do anything naughty at any point, also be sure to not wear those clothes again if they’re even vaguely identifiable (as in not literally a black hoodie from primark). I know a guy who got caught for criminal damage committed six months prior to his arrest cos he was wearing the same kefir at a different protest. Went down for three months for the sake of not changing his kefir up.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Kier lost my vote the second he said he wouldn’t kiss a trident missle on the lips (with toungue) before it is launched at a bunch of camels and tents in Libya to stop the rise of Russia.

IllusionistTrixie
Feb 6, 2003

Jakabite posted:

Mixing up wardrobe especially includes shoes. Shoes are one of the most identifiable things on a person and I feel this is often overlooked. If you did do anything naughty at any point, also be sure to not wear those clothes again if they’re even vaguely identifiable (as in not literally a black hoodie from primark). I know a guy who got caught for criminal damage committed six months prior to his arrest cos he was wearing the same kefir at a different protest. Went down for three months for the sake of not changing his kefir up.

Well sure, if he was wearing milk he'd stand out.

(Google does not tell me if this actually means something else)

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

lol he's not even a real Dr https://twitter.com/MrBaileyM/status/1326878026806784001

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



Ha ha, he left the Brexit Party because it wasn't racist enough.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

IllusionistTrixie posted:

Well sure, if he was wearing milk he'd stand out.

(Google does not tell me if this actually means something else)

I think I meant keffiyah haha

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
E: nvm actually

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Accidentally used the South Africa super-slur?

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Jakabite posted:

Mixing up wardrobe especially includes shoes. Shoes are one of the most identifiable things on a person and I feel this is often overlooked. If you did do anything naughty at any point, also be sure to not wear those clothes again if they’re even vaguely identifiable (as in not literally a black hoodie from primark). I know a guy who got caught for criminal damage committed six months prior to his arrest cos he was wearing the same kefir at a different protest. Went down for three months for the sake of not changing his kefir up.

Yeah, a lot of the people involved in this sort of thing seem quite... naive? Like the not wearing a face covering thing that I mentioned earlier, bringing their phones along with them (tracking devices lol), making posts on social media about it and yes, failing to understand that the police can have long memories where these event are involved and that they can absolutely nab you long after the fact if you're fool enough to go round in the same outfit you were wearing while you merrily booted the wing mirrors off a police car the previous year.

There's only so much safety in numbers: if the police are annoyed and embarassed enough, they can devote a lot of manpower to tracking down individuals in crowds who think thatbthey can break stuff, then quietly sneak anonymously off again.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I'm guessing they accidentally did use the slur, which always throws me for a loop because the one-f spelling, kafir, just means "non-believer" in Arabic so the addition of another f making it basically the n-word was a bit of a "wait, what" moment.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Being identified by the British police for wearing a non-believer on your head would be quite impressive though.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Tesseraction posted:

Being identified by the British police for wearing a non-believer on your head would be quite impressive though.

Pretty obvious identifying feature, in hindsight

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

E: ^^^ lmao somebody make the appropriate "sweating kier choosing between two buttons" comic please

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

IllusionistTrixie posted:

Well sure, if he was wearing milk he'd stand out.

(Google does not tell me if this actually means something else)

Historically it's been the fash who wear milk.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Tesseraction posted:

I'm guessing they accidentally did use the slur, which always throws me for a loop because the one-f spelling, kafir, just means "non-believer" in Arabic so the addition of another f making it basically the n-word was a bit of a "wait, what" moment.

Also the fact that you could buy a bag of oranges using that particular slur in Tesco up until a few years ago IIRC. Definitely took me by surprise at some point too!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Failed Imagineer posted:

Also the fact that you could buy a bag of oranges using that particular slur in Tesco up until a few years ago IIRC. Definitely took me by surprise at some point too!

Yeah that was one of the things I looked up and it's because they came from South Africa (likewise you can get limes of the same slurred denom). Apparently Churchill was fond of the term too.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Could label the buttons "Kill billions", "Make a similar decision to Jeremy Corbyn"

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
Yep, I made the post then thought I'd better Google to double-check and quickly edited when I realised my mistake! Glad I checked! Sorry for about that.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Oh no need to apologise, it's an interesting topic how the term is both recognised as shockingly racist in South Africa but something most people in England are like "but it's my FRUITS"

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I feel like if I wanted to PM I'd just say that I would be constantly hammering the button to nuke everyone at all times, even if I actually wouldn't.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I'd point out it's not just a button and I'd need to set coordinates first. Then go into a diatribe about how the US has control of our nukes and BRITANE STRANG so we need to have homegrown nukes.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
That is really interesting, I had no idea it even had that connotation. I wonder how much offence has been caused over the years by people trying to talk about scarves/yoghurt drinks/oranges.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Tesseraction posted:

Yeah that was one of the things I looked up and it's because they came from South Africa (likewise you can get limes of the same slurred denom). Apparently Churchill was fond of the term too.

The limes come from south east asia and the leaves are now really really common in recipes as they are a staple of Thai and Indonesian food.

There has been a bit of debate about changing the name in English to something else - as far as anyone can work out it's unrelated to the African usage of the word and was just a mangling of Infidel Limes adopted from Arabic traders by the Portuguese

South Africa usually just calls them Thai Limes

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Borrovan posted:

It's actually because they're loving idiots who haven't learned the very basic historical lesson that when you try to ban (less effective) peaceful ways of expressing dissatisfaction people just turn to (more effective) violent means instead.
Or more succinctly:

https://twitter.com/Devon_OnEarth/status/1372140685449699329?s=19

Or going back a bit:

https://twitter.com/TomLondon6/status/1371853875527966722?s=19

Patel just led the charge in destroying the right to peaceful protest that is going to lead to flareups like this all across the country from angry, marginalised people, so that she can use the violence to justify the slide into fascism.

And then on the other side you have Jessflaps tone policing how unacceptable burning police vans is while ignoring the reasons people are angry, and Kieth refusing to even talk about any of this at PMQs because he wholeheartedly supported the spycops legislation and presumably he hasn't had time to run any of this past a focus group.

Nobody except lefty shitposters are talking about any of this and the anger, exacerbated by lockdown is bubbling over. Listening to livestreams from last night, the agitators were out for loving blood, jeering the kind of things that drive a mob to murder if they catch the wrong person.

I guess that's the other thing is that if the agitators were just plants trying to make the protestors look like a mob, they're playing with fire right now with the state this country is in.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

Then go into a diatribe about how the US has control of our nukes and BRITANE STRANG so we need to have homegrown nukes.
We really ought to have a fully independent deterrent like France if we're going to have one at all.

Isolationism and aspirations of national autarky are both dumb as hell, but it's about the one case where you really need to have it not reliant on any other nuclear armed power, regardless of what your normal state of relations is with them, because any global situation where you're even considering using nuclear weapons is not a normal state of relations.

The press seem to consistently ignore this though. Like it's massively important that we spend billions on a nuclear deterrent, and you can't have a lefty jam socialist would wouldn't use it, because otherwise ~the deterrent~ stops working, but you can't even speculate about what our relationship with the USA would look like once nukes have started flying.

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Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
If you don't want to say you would never use nukes (which is the right answer, I suppose their main purpose is international prestige) it's so easy to waffle something like "if the integrity of the British Isles was threatened by a foreign army I would nuke their base" instead of flat out abdicating from the responsibility of the job you are apparently vying for. It's madness that we are considering building more nuclear warheads at the exact moment we are hopefully emerging from an economy shattering pandemic but it's even crazier that Kieth comes off looking like a dolt when opposing it should be an open goal.

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