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Nam Taf posted:That's a pretty poor take because a) not everyone can get vaccinated, b) no vaccine is 100% effective, c) enough people have that mindset and the disease remains sloshing around forever rather than disappearing, and d) those who don't take it act as a handy reservoir for continued evolution of the disease, potentially leading to strains that invalidate existing vaccines. I don't disagree with your point that pro vax can come across authoritarian and often browbeat rather than educate, but your justification is bad. Vaccination does need to be handled in an authoritarian manner in some cases. It's disingenuous to say "educate" because it implies that a person would do the right thing if only they knew/believed x,y,z. That's offensive to the people who know Bill Gates wants to mine bitcoins with their vaccinated blood, because it implies they're ignorant. It's offensive to me because education is something you can ignore/opt out of/sleep through and this poo poo should be compulsory without serious justification.
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I got my appointment for a mass vaccination site in Cleveland. I'm excited to finally get the shot, regardless of which of the 3 I get.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:30
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My brain is buggier than Windows 10 so i'm totally cool with it being installed right up there.
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Mar 22, 2021 16:39
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Do they not realize that their body when infected becomes a weapon that does harm to others????
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Mar 22, 2021 16:44
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got the pfizer at a CVS yesterday. some minor fatigue last night, not too bad. arm soreness is there but not even as bad as a tetanus booster haven't felt any of the transformation yet. don't even see any scales
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Mar 22, 2021 16:47
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I admire Krispy Kreme's effort to get us donut-loving fatties innoculated. Free donuts if you flash your vaccination card. https://lifehacker.com/your-vaccination-card-will-score-you-free-krispy-kreme-1846515136
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Mar 22, 2021 16:58
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Late Fees posted:got the pfizer at a CVS yesterday. some minor fatigue last night, not too bad. arm soreness is there but not even as bad as a tetanus booster It took a few days for my antlers to start coming in.
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Mar 22, 2021 17:02
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 west virginia just opened our shots up to anyone 16+ who wants one
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Mar 22, 2021 17:06
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vyst posted:My brain is buggier than Windows 10 so i'm totally cool with it being installed right up there. Windows ME?!?! WINDOWS YOU!!!
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Mar 22, 2021 17:18
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stab posted:Do they not realize that their body when infected becomes a weapon that does harm to others????
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Mar 22, 2021 17:19
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I do find it notable that the EU finds these rare blood clot cases, while the UK finds nothing of the sort (having vaccinated more people). AZ is still restricted or suspended in some EU countries, and new cases are popping up where it isn't. Not enough cases to go anti-vax, to be sure, but cases and their causal relation to the vaccine provably exist. By contrast, the UK communicates that AZ has no side effects associated with blood clotting and no such cases are found. If it is the same exact vaccine, something doesn't add up.
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Mar 22, 2021 17:27
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A buddy of mine got a surprise vaccination this weekend because he was wandering around Kroger and they were looking for people to finish up a vial so it didn't go to waste. Kinda cool little bonus with the grocery shopping.
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Mar 22, 2021 17:28
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I scheduled another first shot at Moscone today after cancelling last week. Turns out the kids never made me sick (And they had a cold: both tested negative for covid) so I'm going in for Pfizer today.
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Mar 22, 2021 17:32
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dwarf74 posted:A buddy of mine got a surprise vaccination this weekend because he was wandering around Kroger and they were looking for people to finish up a vial so it didn't go to waste. and because he was such a slick couponer they paid HIM to buy groceries
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Mar 22, 2021 17:50
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redreader posted:I scheduled another first shot at Moscone today after cancelling last week. Turns out the kids never made me sick (And they had a cold: both tested negative for covid) so I'm going in for Pfizer today.  Moscone buddy
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Mar 22, 2021 17:54
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Alan Smithee posted:Windows ME?!?! I cackled, rip WinME
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Mar 22, 2021 17:59
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Ohhhh poo poo. I'm supposed to get dose 2 of Moderna next week, but I think I might be feeling another case of shingles coming on.
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Mar 22, 2021 18:01
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Steely Dad posted:
How was parking? Where was parking?
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Mar 22, 2021 18:03
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Wife and I both got our first pfizer jabs late last week - both had *very* minor arm soreness that night, and nothing to speak of by the next morning. My wife is due with our first child next week. We both get our second shot on the same day. Hopefully it doesn't wreck both of us. This may have been poorly planned.
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Mar 22, 2021 18:04
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wilderthanmild posted:I got my appointment for a mass vaccination site in Cleveland. I'm excited to finally get the shot, regardless of which of the 3 I get. All the vaccines work, some were just under trial when higher efficacy was easier to reach. They all prevent hospitalization or death regardless of the numbers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A (Vox Youtube video "Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines")
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Mar 22, 2021 18:07
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Or awesome planning, they are beginning to get results showing pregnant women’s antibodies are being passed on to the baba, not enough data but they are extrapolating that they will be in the fore milk as well 😃
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Mar 22, 2021 18:07
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learnincurve posted:Or awesome planning, they are beginning to get results showing pregnant women’s antibodies are being passed on to the baba, not enough data but they are extrapolating that they will be in the fore milk as well 😃 
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Mar 22, 2021 18:32
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Mar 22, 2021 18:39
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Pastamania posted:Every single actual study by numerous different health agencies have all concluded that there is no heightened risk of blood clots from AZ now. The American's are the latest just last night. There's only so many different ways scientists can say it. It's safe and it stops you getting crippled with a horrific disease. The U.S. clinical trial is small enough that it would not be expected to have a single case of clotting if it is occurring at the rate suggested by Europe. I have said before that if the AZ vaccine were my only option, I would be beating on doors and demanding to be allowed to take my chance against the blood clots rather than the virus that’s several hundred or thousand times worse, but lets not pretend the clinical trial shows us something it doesn’t.
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Haramstufe Rot posted:I do find it notable that the EU finds these rare blood clot cases, while the UK finds nothing of the sort (having vaccinated more people). The UK regulatory body reported five cases total of CSVT from 11 million doses.
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Mar 22, 2021 18:50
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And before anyone starts a few pages ago someone posted the workings showing that millions of women aged 16-45 are included in that figure, because we’ve vaccinated 95% of our healthcare workers.
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Mar 22, 2021 19:21
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Jeza posted:The UK regulatory body reported five cases total of CSVT from 11 million doses. The cure can't be worse than the disease! Oh wait
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Mar 22, 2021 19:37
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DrPlump posted:The idea of violating someones bodily autotomy to overcome the coronavirus is tricky legal territory. I personally am not a fan of passing narrow carve out laws that apply "just this one time for this one thing" as they have tendency to establish legal precedence for further restrictions on human rights. For example if you are to argue this particular virus is an exception because of the large number of human lives lost perhaps we can violate bodily autonomy in other ways to preserve and replace the existing humans lost. If we had "temporarily" outlawed abortions the number of children born as a result would have more than replaced the lives lost due to covid19. If it just about RAW human lives without regards to rights we should have been letting the infected die while doctors focused on birthing new babies to replace them. You are a loving dumbass holy poo poo
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Mar 22, 2021 19:38
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Kinda enjoyed the irony of having to get my shot at the soccer stadium I was supposed to go to last year, but got cancelled with about a days notice when everything went to poo poo. Nice to finally see the place.
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Mar 22, 2021 19:41
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Last time I was in Sheffield Arena it was for WWE Raw live and I bought my mother, who had never seen the rassling before in her life but bizarrely was a friend of “Big Daddy” in real life, ring sides seats for her 65th birthday. Cena came on, did his pose right in front of her and she very loudly went “oOh isn’t he LARGE” and he nearly fell off the ropes corpsing.
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Its Happening! posted:All the vaccines work, some were just under trial when higher efficacy was easier to reach. They all prevent hospitalization or death regardless of the numbers. Yeah, that's why I wasn't too concerned about which one. They all work and it's pretty muddy if any one of them is more effective than the others, for the reason you mentioned. Basically I'm just saying I'm excited and not the kind of moron who is gonna cancel my appointment or getting annoyed I got J&J or annoyed I have to come back for a second dose or whatever. learnincurve posted:Or awesome planning, they are beginning to get results showing pregnant women’s antibodies are being passed on to the baba, not enough data but they are extrapolating that they will be in the fore milk as well 😃 My wife was talking about this yesterday. Making us both even happier about her decision to get vaccinated!
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learnincurve posted:Or awesome planning, they are beginning to get results showing pregnant women’s antibodies are being passed on to the baba, not enough data but they are extrapolating that they will be in the fore milk as well 😃 Yeah....that was kinda the hope. That and getting it in mom before she is no-longer high-risk and falls into the "eventually" timeframe.
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DrPlump posted:The idea of violating someones bodily autotomy to overcome the coronavirus is tricky legal territory. I personally am not a fan of passing narrow carve out laws that apply "just this one time for this one thing" as they have tendency to establish legal precedence for further restrictions on human rights. For example if you are to argue this particular virus is an exception because of the large number of human lives lost perhaps we can violate bodily autonomy in other ways to preserve and replace the existing humans lost. If we had "temporarily" outlawed abortions the number of children born as a result would have more than replaced the lives lost due to covid19. If it just about RAW human lives without regards to rights we should have been letting the infected die while doctors focused on birthing new babies to replace them. I skimmed this post because you’d already been probated and I thought it was “just” more antivaxx stuff, but seriously, gently caress you for the abortion suggestion. Anyone who chooses to be a plague bearer should be excluded from polite society, but you are doing your damnedest to have your tongue get you ostracised, so that may not be much of a disincentive.
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Mar 22, 2021 19:55
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Getting my second shot in about an hour. We'll see how I feel later on today or tomorrow
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Mar 22, 2021 19:56
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I don't want to say anything but unfortunately I have a giant rear end mouth and I already posted that it that I wouldn't lie to get my vax. Did some looking around and I'm aghast amazed genuinely and there is absolutely poo poo tons of immediate openings for appointments for a two shot vaccine (I don't know which one it is) an hour and a half drive away in the boonies. I made an appointment. If I end up getting in trouble I'll take the punishment. Due to the massive amount of openings available within 24 hours of when I was looking on the website I'm guessing I'm really not taking someone's like spot. I genuinely don't want to do that.
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Mar 22, 2021 20:21
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Spinz posted:I don't want to say anything but unfortunately I have a giant rear end mouth and I already posted that it that I wouldn't lie to get my vax. If it’s making you feel guilty then pay it back later - when you are vaccinated do some real life volunteering in a soup kitchen or even drive an elderly neighbour to get their vax or something.
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Mar 22, 2021 20:28
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Mar 22, 2021 20:33
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Holy crap Krispy Kreme is giving one free original glazed per visit if you show a vaccine card through the end of the year. No explicit limits. Im going to die.
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Lmao they are gonna end it by may I bet
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