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hobbesmaster posted:the “media that has aged terribly thread” was titled “joss whedon’t talk about him anymore” and that’s the best possible summary buffy's still ok, mostly whedon's stuff quickly turned to Maximum Creep at some point in the early 2000s, presumably because buffy's success allowed him to make whatever depraved poo poo he wanted, like marvel films
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I love that Whedon says that Alien Resurrection isaa bad because they didn't strictly follow his script, even though the crew of the Betty are 100% the Alpha characters of Firefly
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Was there a mistake in the feed I use? Because on Matt and Felix' television show I got the Deadwood episode at about the time people were talking about Gossip Girl, I haven't seen anyone talking about Deadwood in the thread. I started watching Deadwood and I enjoy it a lot. I shamefully haven't watched The Sopranos either but after Deadwood I guess I know what I'm going to do.
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THS posted:ok ill check it out. ill finally understand half of the references on chapo Be forewarned that in the later seasons, David Chase dabbled a little bit too much with the art film bullshit, but it's still good.
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Mr Hootington posted:The first 2 seasons of monk are trash and the last season is a dumpster fire. it was a good use of Craig T. Nelson, all things considered
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Grevling posted:Was there a mistake in the feed I use? Because on Matt and Felix' television show I got the Deadwood episode at about the time people were talking about Gossip Girl, I haven't seen anyone talking about Deadwood in the thread. I started watching Deadwood and I enjoy it a lot. I shamefully haven't watched The Sopranos either but after Deadwood I guess I know what I'm going to do. If you're using the shanny.tools feed they explicitly made it made block things like pocket casts and podcast addict.
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Nothus posted:Be forewarned that in the later seasons, David Chase dabbled a little bit too much with the art film bullshit, but it's still good. imo every season of the sopranos is at least Very Good. i happen to like art film bullshit, so to me it ages really well in general, but ymmv i guess
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AnimeIsTrash posted:If you're using the shanny.tools feed they explicitly made it made block things like pocket casts and podcast addict. Yeah I'm using that, don't get how that works.
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Grevling posted:Yeah I'm using that, don't get how that works. It may be a feed problem. The Gossip Girls episode was posted to main Chapo feed, the pirated feed doesn't have the gossip girls one for some reason (maybe because its in the CTH one) but there is the Deadwood one, and now on on THE SHIELD. vic mackey bitch
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V. Illych L. posted:buffy's still ok, mostly during Buffy he was using all his creep energy harassing the actors
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ultimate cop, Vic Mackey, patron saint of all cops here and after
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Xaris posted:It may be a feed problem. The Gossip Girls episode was posted to main Chapo feed, the pirated feed doesn't have the gossip girls one for some reason (maybe because its in the CTH one) but there is the Deadwood one, and now on on THE SHIELD. vic mackey bitch Just as well I guess since listening to the episodes without having watched the shows didn't really do much for me, while for Deadwood I watched the first season and then relistened and got a lot more out of it. Which I guess should be obvious but I'm definitely never watching Gossip Girl or The Shield.
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Grevling posted:Just as well I guess since listening to the episodes without having watched the shows didn't really do much for me, while for Deadwood I watched the first season and then relistened and got a lot more out of it. Which I guess should be obvious but I'm definitely never watching Gossip Girl or The Shield. yeah that's fair. I haven't actually watched any of the shows they've talked about myself other than The Shield (which is definitely not worth a watch in 2021 but it was sure something when it first aired) and have still been enjoying them but would probably get more out of having seen them. most 2000s-era tv has, personally, aged terribly and almost impossible to watch now. I do want to get around to Deadwood though.
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doing a rewatch of the shield and my god 2000s fashion was the worst, just bland baggy poo poo in beige or grays lapd activities being juxtaposed with gang's owns though but I'm also playing the game of "was this character that end up with a debilitating rape fetish?"
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why are people so god drat weird about the bruenigs just be normal you loving freaks https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1374044829668245506?s=21
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:why are people so god drat weird about the bruenigs just be normal you loving freaks he/him, bylines NBC Think, Atlantic, WaPo, Pitchfork, Guardian, Foreign Policy. Wrote Wonder Woman: Bondage and Feminism for Rutgers UP.
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To be fair to Noah (ugh) liz did make a tweet comparing him to a pedophile in response to him talking about letting his own children transition. Edit: the tweet in question https://twitter.com/newfielyd/status/1374060571402850306?s=19
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is it weird that I#ve never seen what noah looks like but i also know exactly what he looks like
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liz's posting power is too great and has been permbanned from the forums
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I got around to the Hedges interview on Bad Faith - I really liked it. Whoever said Brie was basically crack-pinging throughout the whole thing was right, and I really appreciated the pusback she offered, especially on Hedges rejection of Marxism. It was interesting seeing the two only valid responses to our current situation sat side-by-side, Marxism vs. doomerism, and Hedges' aversion to clearly articulating a solution was telling. Like I think Hedges is 100% genuine and didn't offer a solution because he geninely believes there isn't one, but I don't know what he thinks we should do with that information. The Marxist approach, even if it's ultimately naive, at least suggests a course of action
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:why are people so god drat weird about the bruenigs just be normal you loving freaks this is depraved
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Deified Data posted:I got around to the Hedges interview on Bad Faith - I really liked it. Whoever said Brie was basically crack-pinging throughout the whole thing was right, and I really appreciated the pusback she offered, especially on Hedges rejection of Marxism. It was interesting seeing the two only valid responses to our current situation sat side-by-side, Marxism vs. doomerism, and Hedges' aversion to clearly articulating a solution was telling. Like I think Hedges is 100% genuine and didn't offer a solution because he geninely believes there isn't one, but I don't know what he thinks we should do with that information. The Marxist approach, even if it's ultimately naive, at least suggests a course of action Hedges is pretty good in giving you reasons to be angry but he doesn't have a real coherent ideology or any interesting stuff to say about political economy.
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every time Noah's name comes up i have to restate that he wrote an entire book about how people own him online. like a third of it was about Freddie De Boer.
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THS posted:is it worth watching the sopranos in 2021 for the first time. it's held up better than any of the classic "prestige" tv shows imho
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uber_stoat posted:every time Noah's name comes up i have to restate that he wrote an entire book about how people own him online. like a third of it was about Freddie De Boer. the table of contents is a fun read: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079P8N8MF/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1
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Maya Fey posted:it's held up better than any of the classic "prestige" tv shows imho how does Oz or Carnivale rank these days?
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Victory Position posted:how does Oz or Carnivale rank these days? I hope Filix and Matt do Carnivale on their pod series.
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Victory Position posted:how does Oz or Carnivale rank these days? never seen carnivale but Oz didn't age well
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Maya Fey posted:never seen carnivale but Oz didn't age well is it because of the weird poo poo with the narrator?
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Victory Position posted:is it because of the weird poo poo with the narrator? thats part of it, it's really corny overall, way more than i remembered at least
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I was working backward in the Podcasting is Praxis catalog and got to their 2020 election analysis. I had to turn the podcast off when one of the hosts sincerely put forward the idea that Noam Chomsky scolded for biden not because he was going to vote for biden, but purely as PR so that other people would vote for biden, and that this was smart and good. All the episodes can't be winners I guess. Whenever I hear someone begin claiming that the existential fascist threat can only be averted by voting for joe biden, I think of the squirrel lady scolding video.
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bedpan posted:I was working backward in the Podcasting is Praxis catalog and got to their 2020 election analysis. I had to turn the podcast off when one of the hosts sincerely put forward the idea that Noam Chomsky scolded for biden not because he was going to vote for biden, but purely as PR so that other people would vote for biden, and that this was smart and good. There's a subset of leftists who sort of have leftist values/goals in a broad sense, but do so from a perspective that is still defined by liberal narratives. The main result of this is people buying into the idea that we have to support Democrats because of the existential threat of fascists.
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Ytlaya posted:There's a subset of leftists who sort of have leftist values/goals in a broad sense, but do so from a perspective that is still defined by liberal narratives. It was fascinating, but not very enjoyable, to hear from the mouth of a leftist political comedy podcaster a ferocious defense of Joe Biden. I despise individuals who scolded for joe biden. All of the leftist commentary on society and politics was just a mask and beneath that was the same old liberal seen everywhere else.
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mcmagic posted:Hedges is pretty good in giving you reasons to be angry but he doesn't have a real coherent ideology or any interesting stuff to say about political economy. not sure how “literally just saying things that are true” makes someone less credible
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bedpan posted:It was fascinating, but not very enjoyable, to hear from the mouth of a leftist political comedy podcaster a ferocious defense of Joe Biden. I despise individuals who scolded for joe biden. All of the leftist commentary on society and politics was just a mask and beneath that was the same old liberal seen everywhere else. Back to Hedges on Bad Faith for a sec, he hit the nail on the head that there's absolutely no way to reconcile leftist, true progressive politics with liberal morality. Socialism is illiberal yet so many so-called socialists insist on continuing to hold themsselves to liberal ideas of decorum they can never live up to. To them we will always be Trump-enabling secret fascists, and we need to stop caring what they think of us and be willing to burn them to the ground. Why would a liberal give us the benefit of the doubt when our stated goal is to destroy everything they hold dear? Just remove the prospect from your head
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I feel like time for my stories really ought to cover the Pro wrestling Monday night wars of the 90s and the end of the attitude era in 2001(serendipity eh) with stone cold turning into a corporate shill and McMahon IRL monopolizing the industry. I feel like there's a lot of juice in that. A nation at the end of history riding high on sports entertainment and such. Much more politically interesting than anything in that UFC doc, where it felt like the political stuff was being crowbarred in. Not to tell them their business like but I remember cush saying he was a huge wrestling mark up until 2000 or so.
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Noah wrote a whole book about his twitter beefs. Chapter 1 is Chait, 2 is Sullivan, 3 is Freddie, 4 is Douthat, 5 is Singal, etc. He got to Chapo by chapter 10.
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KomradeX posted:I love that Whedon says that Alien Resurrection isaa bad because they didn't strictly follow his script, even though the crew of the Betty are 100% the Alpha characters of Firefly That script might be the worst thing Whedon ever wrote. It's so incredibly dogshit. The small amount of good in that movie is completely unrelated to the script. Also once you know Joss is big a ole' creep, the way everyone treats Winona Ryder in the movie becomes even creepier.
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gh0stpinballa posted:I feel like time for my stories really ought to cover the Pro wrestling Monday night wars of the 90s and the end of the attitude era in 2001(serendipity eh) with stone cold turning into a corporate shill and McMahon IRL monopolizing the industry. I feel like there's a lot of juice in that. A nation at the end of history riding high on sports entertainment and such. Much more politically interesting than anything in that UFC doc, where it felt like the political stuff was being crowbarred in. Not to tell them their business like but I remember cush saying he was a huge wrestling mark up until 2000 or so. it dovetails with the rise of reality television as a backdrop, so it gives McMahon an angle as to why he'd scoop up the entire industry for himself
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