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Have you considered that brexit was just a proxy issue and is dropped as soon as politically convenient.
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Jose posted:corbyn out in front of everyone except david attenborough for labour voters lmao William being a close third makes me believe Labor does deserve what it got.
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Mar 22, 2021 19:53
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah from an outside perspective starmer's coronation was pretty baffling, i never understood why people thought he was electable except for being haunted by the ghost of blair he had a ton of money behind him from dodgy donors and the other 2 candidates were an even bigger wet wipe at the time and someone who seems really keen on national socialism. only like 60% of members voted and he ran as someone who'll keep corbyns policies but be more competent. to a highly demoralised membership it was really easy for him to win genuinely people hadn't heard him speak before i think and once you learn how he sounds you realise he's not electable
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Mar 22, 2021 19:59
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Jose posted:he had a ton of money behind him from dodgy donors and the other 2 candidates were an even bigger wet wipe at the time and someone who seems really keen on national socialism. only like 60% of members voted and he ran as someone who'll keep corbyns policies but be more competent. to a highly demoralised membership it was really easy for him to win yeah that might be it, i saw him on piers morgan's show for some ungodly reason and he was just so *moist*
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Mar 22, 2021 20:01
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah that might be it, i saw him on piers morgan's show for some ungodly reason and he was just so *moist* most notable thing i have observed is tons of people say "wait thats what kier starmer sounds like????" every time they are forced into see him talking. dude's face mattered more than the things that came out of it.
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Mar 22, 2021 20:04
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i suspect that the knighthood and impressive resume also helped like, corbyn was a sort of childish fancy which was fun while it lasted but now the adults are coming back to sort things out moistly
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Mar 22, 2021 20:06
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Jose posted:corbyn out in front of everyone except david attenborough for labour voters lmao starmer at 2% of labour vs. corbyn at 8% lmao
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Mar 22, 2021 20:12
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I've said it before but literally every single one of those answers in all 3 columns are deeply deeply comedic.
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Mar 22, 2021 20:14
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lol at Ed Davey being absent from the libdem list
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Mar 22, 2021 20:48
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I was listening to a back episode of Podcasting is Praxis and one of the hosts began to scold for biden and raise the specter of fascist takeover unless everyone voted for biden. I didn't finish that episode. Lesser of two evilism breaks brains, breaks them in a million pieces.
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Mar 22, 2021 20:52
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lol all the british simps not voting to put themselves on the throne in that poll
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Mar 22, 2021 20:55
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Communist Thoughts posted:we're making a new left wing party for people who like good things in the UK, already a small audience It's a party with a specific goal. We don't necessarily want to unite the UK left
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Mar 22, 2021 21:08
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England breaking up into pieces would be a massive net gain for the world so who cares if the NIP isn’t a nationwide leftist party
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Mar 22, 2021 21:16
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Rollie Fingers posted:England breaking up into pieces would be a massive net gain for the world so who cares if the NIP isn’t a nationwide leftist party We're more effective anti imperialists than any of the UK's intensely lame communist parties
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Mar 22, 2021 21:29
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Continuity RCP posted:We're more effective anti imperialists than any of the UK's intensely lame communist parties well yeah because they're all fascists lol
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Mar 22, 2021 21:31
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:starmer at 2% of labour vs. corbyn at 8% lmao
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Mar 22, 2021 23:09
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CoolCab posted:most notable thing i have observed is tons of people say "wait thats what kier starmer sounds like????" every time they are forced into see him talking. dude's face mattered more than the things that came out of it. but his face also looks moist, tho??? like i've never seen a picture of kieth where he doesn't look like he's about to cry
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Mar 22, 2021 23:23
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I just realised that previous to Keef winning the leadership every time I saw him live he was just standing there while John Mcdonnell was saying something stirring from somewhere offscreen. I imagine that was most peoples experience. RLB also hosed it massively and was not helped by the rags highlighting every fart. To be fair if she had ever got close to winning the tabloids would have made something up anyway.
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Mar 22, 2021 23:38
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Chief Keef
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Mar 22, 2021 23:39
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Communist Thoughts posted:im torn coz labour is so poo poo right now and scottish labour got a poo poo (i hear) new leader but he's finally not just some white guy Don't loving vote for an anti-union neoliberal because his folks are from Pakistan for fucksake. Sarwar is terrible.
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Mar 22, 2021 23:49
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lol https://twitter.com/deletedbyMPs/status/1374105496312020995?s=19
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Mar 23, 2021 00:02
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Nonsense posted:Chief Keef 
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forkboy84 posted:Don't loving vote for an anti-union neoliberal because his folks are from Pakistan for fucksake. Sarwar is terrible. who can i vote for instead to assuage my disgust at the rising pro-statue sentiment in the country?
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Mar 23, 2021 00:39
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Lawman 0 posted:What did she do? Pronounced scones to rhyme with pawns, instead of Queen's English scones rhymes with bones. Lawman 0 posted:considering the recent ghoulishness they might as well add a shadow minister for skulls Name a functioning democracy that doesn't have a Shadow Minister of Phrenology. What kind of degenerate country would we be if tax credits were issued to anyone regardless of skull shape?
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Mar 23, 2021 00:43
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Wonder why he deleted it? I thought the Starmeristas would be proud of views like that.
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Mar 23, 2021 01:13
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Communist Thoughts posted:who can i vote for instead to assuage my disgust at the rising pro-statue sentiment in the country? if voting could change anything it would be illegal
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Mar 23, 2021 02:32
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Jose posted:corbyn out in front of everyone except david attenborough for labour voters lmao How broken in the brain does a country have to be where a quarter of the people living there want to bring back monarchy?
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Mar 23, 2021 02:43
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:How broken in the brain does a country have to be where a quarter of the people living there want to bring back monarchy? insane in the britane
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Mar 23, 2021 02:45
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https://twitter.com/breadandposes/status/1374086417232621575 (I do like that the guy sounds like Nigel Tufnel.)
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Mar 23, 2021 09:22
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Communist Thoughts posted:who can i vote for instead to assuage my disgust at the rising pro-statue sentiment in the country? If you want to support the most left wing party likely to win seats at Holyrood then vote Green. Or if you don't mind your vote making no difference then there's the Scottish Socialist Party, which for a pleasant change is a Trot party that doesn't seem overloaded in sexpests from my experience.
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Mar 23, 2021 09:32
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Spangly A posted:to stop it breaking up england and getting rid of the monarchy Get rid of the monarchy and Canada, Australia and New Zealand have a constitutional crisis.
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Mar 23, 2021 09:37
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Hillary 2024 posted:Get rid of the monarchy and Canada, Australia and New Zealand have a constitutional crisis. It would be pretty cool if the queen of England was only allowed to be queen in non-England countries.
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Mar 23, 2021 09:41
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah from an outside perspective starmer's coronation was pretty baffling, i never understood why people thought he was electable except for being haunted by the ghost of blair there’s that graph showing trust in media just collapsing for Republicans but shooting up for Democrats, and i wonder if a similar thing was at play, where a significant chunk of the voter base were just so desperate for media validation. If so, i could imagine the argument working that this pink-blobby guy would be a more respectable face for corbyns policies but with media support
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Mar 23, 2021 09:43
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prefect posted:It would be pretty cool if the queen of England was only allowed to be queen in non-England countries. None of those countries pay to support the monarchy financially so she'd have to get a day job to pay the bills.
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in spite of the media being uniformly anti-Labour and pro-Tory, Starmer supporters nevertheless lick the media's boots in the hopes that it'll suddenly turn face and lead Britain into a new age of glorious Blairism
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Hillary 2024 posted:None of those countries pay to support the monarchy financially so she'd have to get a day job to pay the bills. onlyfans.com/thequeenofengland
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Jel Shaker posted:there’s that graph showing trust in media just collapsing for Republicans but shooting up for Democrats, and i wonder if a similar thing was at play, where a significant chunk of the voter base were just so desperate for media validation. If so, i could imagine the argument working that this pink-blobby guy would be a more respectable face for corbyns policies but with media support This was the explicit reason a lot of people voted for him Starmer basically offered 2 things: - an end to the factional infighting - continuing Corbyns most popular policies but with a professional, media friendly sheen Important to note that Starmer hasn't cultivated a strong base of support in the party - even in the PLP there aren't really any "Starmerites", and he won over the membership by brazenly lying to them. When the right decide to go for him he will be gone pretty much instantly
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Mar 23, 2021 10:07
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just lmao that the most left wing party in England at the moment is the greens closely followed by the lib dems.
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Mar 23, 2021 10:09
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me (crying at the poll): I thought voting for pain as in french bread!
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Dravs posted:just lmao that the most left wing party in England at the moment is the greens closely followed by the lib dems. God is in his heaven, everything is back to normal
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