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Criminal charges is probably the tipping point for the exempt list. I can't find a good list of past exempt list entries but the reuben foster one sticks out where the 49ers look stupid for releasing him, the NFL/NFLPA look stupid for allowing him to hit waivers, and washington looked like shitheads for picking him up off waivers.
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PupsOfWar posted:Well, why have a lot of the high-profile multi plaintiff #metoo cases been handled this way, then What cases are you talking about?
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Mar 23, 2021 04:00
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BrownThunder posted:If you don't know the answer, you can just say you don't know. Don't just make poo poo up
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PupsOfWar posted:Well, why have a lot of the high-profile multi plaintiff #metoo cases been handled this way, then Oh so blind conjecture is your precedent.
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Mar 23, 2021 04:08
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He studied Birdlaw.
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Mar 23, 2021 04:08
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I drew a conclusion from this thing I imagined
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Mar 23, 2021 04:20
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Scipiotik posted:What cases are you talking about? cosby, weinstein many plaintiffs sharing an attorney seems to be the done thing in cases like this
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Mar 23, 2021 04:24
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PupsOfWar posted:cosby, weinstein I mean, Gloria Allred didn’t even represent everyone so nope this isn’t right either. Take a knee. Hit the showers.
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Mar 23, 2021 04:35
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(Don’t actually punch the showers)
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Mar 23, 2021 04:35
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Amy Pole Her posted:I mean, Gloria Allred didn’t even represent everyone so nope this isn’t right either. "gloria allred only represented several dozen of cosby's many accusers" isn't a counterexample to "it's common for many plaintiffs to share counsel in these cases", my man
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Mar 23, 2021 04:38
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Well I was discussing Weinstein for one. And how exactly does it not? Because this was your original claim quote:within the same jurisdiction i don't know if the judicial system would even hear both cases
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hello i learned from lionel hutz how to destroy all you can eat buffets and i would like to add to this conversation that actually if you consider the facts wa
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Mar 23, 2021 04:46
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Amy Pole Her posted:Well I was discussing Weinstein for one. i mean, i don't know why you want me to walk you through this, but alright initially i thought "well, perhaps there is some legal convention that causes people to share counsel" and expressed this this seemed like something to dig into since "why is everyone using buzzbee, he seems weird and dumb" has been a preoccupation of posters here the poster Scipiotik contradicted this and seemed to know more about it, so I thought "well, if it's not legal convention there must be practical considerations that make people want to do it this way" in both the cosby and weinstein cases you had many plaintiffs using the same counsel and being heard as part of the same case, which seems consistent with the buzzbee sitch regardless of whether there were others who were not grouping up. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 23, 2021 04:48
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Pups my friend there’s a huge mountain of difference between “huh it sure seems like a lot of the plaintiffs in these cases use the original filing attorney. Must be easier on paperwork” vs completely fabricated statements like “most attorneys will tell you to go to the other lawyer” There are like 4-5 attorneys (myself included) that post here so it was especially funny.
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Mar 23, 2021 04:57
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Amy Pole Her posted:Pups my friend there’s a huge mountain of difference between “huh it sure seems like a lot of the plaintiffs in these cases use the original filing attorney. Must be easier on paperwork” vs completely fabricated statements like “most attorneys will tell you to go to the other lawyer” I mean, that's fine, but if we're gonna belabor the matter you might want to check the part where I didn't argue with anyone who said I was wrong about that initial speculation "maybe such-and-such thing is true" "actually no because of so-and-so" "well, if not that, seems like this other thing then" pretty normal way for a forum conversation to go
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Mar 23, 2021 05:04
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Posting more words doesn’t make you right. Again if you don’t know, don’t say. Don’t speculate or guess either, this is a serious matter not who got cast for Farthuff McCloud in the new marvel poo poo. Speculation gets out of control and some idiots might take it as fact.
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BrownThunder posted:If you don't know the answer, you can just say you don't know. Don't just make poo poo up
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Wow, this is a great thread, very football related.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Zaradis posted:Wow, this is a great thread, very football related. FUCKFACE MORON fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 23, 2021 05:50
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Nick Jr. Face posted:is this another attempt at a bad joke? It’s trying to bring awareness to the fact that this thread just devolved into a retarded argument about how many people a prosecuting attorney could/should/would/did/is representing. Also, I don’t make attempts.
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Zaradis posted:Wow, this is a great thread, very football related. suck my dick. gently caress you (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Zaradis posted:a retarded argument hm
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That's right, Zadaris
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I'll deal with the morons, ya'll stay on topic and try not to get too far into the weeds with bullshit.
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Mar 23, 2021 06:39
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Sports Illustrated cutting through the noise to get to the important issues This has been and will continue to be an esteemed moment in Sports Journalism
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sweet thursday posted:Sports Illustrated cutting through the noise to get to the important issues This is loving disgusting. It's bad enough knowing that plenty of fans are all "well all he did was ask a masseuse for a handy, that's what they do a lot anyway" but the way the sports media routinely plays down reprehensible behavior by players/owners is just infuriating. Watch a player piss hot for weed though and the sky comes crashing down on them.
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Mar 23, 2021 12:52
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Do we have any idea when the statement from Watson or his agent or whomever that was alluded to previously is supposed to happen this week?
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sweet thursday posted:Sports Illustrated cutting through the noise to get to the important issues Looking at this without any prior knowledge you’d think he hurt his knee or something.
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How many of you actually read that SI story? The opening paragraph: ”Any general manager who trades for Deshaun Watson now would be reckless and foolish, grossly uncaring about his team’s fans, and completely oblivious to the reasonable expectations of modern society. Watson is facing at least 10 lawsuits regarding his conduct with massage therapists, with allegations ranging from inappropriate conduct to sexual assault. This does not guarantee he did these things. It does not mean his career is over. But it should absolutely put every other conversation about Watson on pause.” & later: ”Anybody discussing this must float somewhere between the “innocent” and “guilty” in “innocent until proven guilty.” You can understand why the Texans and NFL are in the fact-gathering, let’s see-what-happens phase. But trading for Watson at what his perceived market value was two weeks ago would be a public statement that Watson is innocent and will remain innocent, and that the voices of these women do not even deserve to be heard.” I have to say I found the whole thing a fairly reasonable take, but you can judge for yourself: https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/03/22/no-team-should-consider-deshaun-watson-trade-right-now
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Yeah that SI story is actually the strongest anti-watson take in sports media right now lol
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Fire Safety Doug posted:How many of you actually read that SI story? If they wanted me to read all that, they should have put it in the headline.
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It's ridiculous but most sports writers don't have enough clout to control the framing of their own content (headline, photos, etc). The guy who wrote the infamous "What if Vick was White?" article didn't write that headline or want a photoshopped picture of a white Vick as the article banner. It was added by editors.
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Skull dot gif posted it a few pages back and it's a good read. The headline plays it safe but the article itself is well done and says it's despicable to trade for watson right now knowing this is hanging over him and disrespectful to the women accusers.
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The 14th lawsuit has been filed. https://www.scribd.com/document/499957994/Deshaun-Watson-Lawsuit-14 This is one of the first ones to involve a massage therapist who actually had several years of experience and was licensed -- he seems to otherwise have focused on inexperienced women. And right away we can see probably why: quote:Watson led Plaintiff to a room where Watson shut the doors and locked the doors behind him. At this point, Plaintiff got out her mace. Watson saw the mace and chuckled but did not say anything. This is I think the third? time in these lawsuits it's said that he's made implicit threats to his victims to stay quiet: quote:Watson said "I will not have you sign a NDA but don't ever talk about this."
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Also, one thing we've been discussing is the public reception to this whole fiasco, and I've been keeping an eye on the PFT comments for that reason. Yeah, yeah, don't read the comments, etc, but PFT commenters is about as close to your average meatball as you'll get without going to the local pub. The sheer amount of lawsuits being brought forward, despite reluctance by sports media to directly discuss it, seems to have swayed many people. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/23/deshaun-watson-lawsuits-up-to-14-with-24-accusers/
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SKULL.GIF posted:Also, one thing we've been discussing is the public reception to this whole fiasco, and I've been keeping an eye on the PFT comments for that reason. Yeah, yeah, don't read the comments, etc, but PFT commenters is about as close to your average meatball as you'll get without going to the local pub. The sheer amount of lawsuits being brought forward, despite reluctance by sports media to directly discuss it, seems to have swayed many people. Still some vile poo poo in there, but yes it does seem like most people are against him or at the very least have serious doubts. It's a really good thing more women came forward. If this was just one woman this likely gets buried with nothing else to it.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Also, one thing we've been discussing is the public reception to this whole fiasco, and I've been keeping an eye on the PFT comments for that reason. Yeah, yeah, don't read the comments, etc, but PFT commenters is about as close to your average meatball as you'll get without going to the local pub. The sheer amount of lawsuits being brought forward, despite reluctance by sports media to directly discuss it, seems to have swayed many people. Hate to beat this dead horse here, but covering the story from this angle is beneath even Rovell. Who's winning the PR spin zone?? Curse this damnable public perception trial! quote:Through it all, Watson and his representatives have said very little. Although the time for responding formally to these complaints has not yet arrived, Watson’s silence has become deafening, as far as the court of public opinion is concerned.
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Florio is being a dumb poo poo as usual. I'll be a bit contrary and say that I think Buzbee has actually done a great job here. He's kept the attention and spectacle firmly focused on him, which means he's getting a lot of the flak that would otherwise be directed at Deshaun's victims. I was looking a bit more into Buzbee's past because of this whole deal and apparently Buzbee carried out successful litigation against BP over the Deepwater spill. That's one way to ensure that Watson's victims would feel safe going to him, if he could take on BP and win, he can take on Watson and win.
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