|
LostCosmonaut posted:Managed to find what looks like a news story about the situation; https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSP70669 The energy drink company was something else. I looked it up to see if I could find info, and there were lots of news about it being set up, but none about a protest about not being paid. So at least 2 companies have tried to make tonics and/or energy drinks out of ground up asian mountain ants.
|
#
?
Mar 21, 2021 22:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 20:51 |
|
|
LostCosmonaut posted:Managed to find what looks like a news story about the situation; https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSP70669 That was it. It must have been late 2007 because I remember coal-dust coloured snow.
|
|
#
?
Mar 21, 2021 23:51
|
|
|
LostCosmonaut posted:Managed to find what looks like a news story about the situation; https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSP70669 New thread title please. quote:Thousands protest over China ant aphrodisiac scheme
|
|
#
?
Mar 21, 2021 23:57
|
|
|
SerCypher posted:New thread title please. other one is a good nod to Grand Fromage
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 00:49
|
|
|
There WERE two ant breeding scams at about the same time. https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-02/04/content_6441805.htm One of the perpetrators was executed and the other was arrested but I'm not sure what happened to him. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-swindler-execution1-idUSTRE4AQ5S920081127 Edit: the thing that stood out to me from the first ant article posted was its description of Liaoyang as a rust belt city. I was unaware of this phenomenon in China, and wiki only offhandedly mentions some 2002 factory closure type protests. Weka fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Mar 22, 2021 |
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 02:23
|
|
|
Reminds me of Anhk-Morpork with the rat farms.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 05:22
|
|
|
Show trial #2 is underway.quote:Michael Kovrig: China begins espionage trial behind closed doors https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56480219
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 06:42
|
|
|
WarpedNaba posted:Reminds me of Anhk-Morpork with the rat farms. Tax the Ant Farms
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 09:46
|
|
|
mikerock posted:Show trial #2 is underway.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 10:03
|
|
|
ive signed up to get a vaccine cuz no locals are lol from what I've read the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines are now the most administered in the world (due in part to richer countries buying up p much the whole supply of pfizer and moderna) and there's no mass stories of people falling over dead so I suppose at worst I'll have sub-par immunity and wont have any actual adverse effects.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 10:10
|
|
|
Magna Kaser posted:ive signed up to get a vaccine cuz no locals are lol I'm pretty sure it's 100% about production capacity. Still waiting for my turn for the vaccine. They just cancelled AstraZeneca vaccinations, when only 13% of my City has been vaccinated. I'm nurse at local hospital and still can't get it before late spring/early summer. 
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 11:07
|
|
|
adhuin posted:I'm pretty sure it's 100% about production capacity. yeah the mrna vaccines are more time consuming/expensive to make right now, and harder to store and transport. this is true. but that's a big reason why so many countries are opting to the chinese vaccines--and they probably will go for the J&J vaccine once they ramp up production of that for the same reasons. I more meant that given how widely chinese vaccines been given out it's unlikely there is some massive coverup of how they're death serums like I've heard from some parts of the internet.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 11:15
|
|
|
Yeah. They're good enough and same goes for the Sputnik.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 11:18
|
|
|
Magna Kaser posted:ive signed up to get a vaccine cuz no locals are lol Are you the last goon in China at this point?
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 12:50
|
|
|
Nah there’s a bunch.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 13:25
|
|
|
adhuin posted:Yeah. They're good enough and same goes for the Sputnik. Sputnik is actually good though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 16:24
|
|
|
WarpedNaba posted:Reminds me of Anhk-Morpork with the rat farms. My DW memory is way too rusty, but that I think parodies the so-named cobra effect.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 17:05
|
|
|
Bum the Sad posted:Sputnik is actually good though. Yea, the problem with Sputnik was that it was released too early and untested. they basically used first vaccinators as beta testers. By now there is enough time and data to know it is safe.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 17:21
|
|
|
the heat goes wrong posted:Yea, the problem with Sputnik was that it was released too early and untested. they basically used first vaccinators as beta testers. By now there is enough time and data to know it is safe. Yeah we talked about that a few pages back.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2021 19:08
|
|
|
Bum the Sad posted:Sputnik is actually good though. We've seen trials now that confirm it is safe, but is it really good? As of late February, they were still seeing people who've been given the vaccine be a carrier for the virus up to at least 2 weeks. If there's been more recent data, I haven't heard it.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 05:27
|
|
|
ninjoatse.cx posted:We've seen trials now that confirm it is safe, but is it really good? As of late February, they were still seeing people who've been given the vaccine be a carrier for the virus up to at least 2 weeks. If there's been more recent data, I haven't heard it. IIRC a study in The Lancet found it was 90 something percent effective at preventing serious illness and death.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 05:37
|
|
|
Quick update- After being told we could opt in for the vaccine (which is weirdly being done through your workplace here in Shanghai, so IDK what retirees/family members/people without jobs do) we found out today the current pool is Chinese citizens only. Heard the same thing from some other people around town. It seems only teachers, and any medical staff presumably, are the only foreigners who can get vaccinated atm. I do know a handful of foreign teachers who already got Sinovac or Sinopharm's vaccine or are getting it soon.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 06:18
|
|
|
Magna Kaser posted:Quick update- Just good praxis imo
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 07:23
|
|
|
Gimme any and all vaccines if it means I can travel without mandatory 2 week hotel quarantine
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 12:37
|
|
|
Magna Kaser posted:Quick update- I'm in Beijing and I haven't heard any word of foreigners, teachers or not, getting any kind of vaccine. Those teachers must have taught at elite schools or have a clientele base of connected people.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 12:41
|
|
|
Blistex posted:an energy drink company didn't pay people for raising ants. LostCosmonaut posted:Unless there have been multiple ant-raising scams in China, which is plausible. Raising Ant Finance for ED Problems are Not Hard  TA-DA(lafil)
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 16:40
|
|
|
Mr Luxury Yacht posted:IIRC a study in The Lancet found it was 90 something percent effective at preventing serious illness and death. This is incorrect. It’s like 91% effective in preventing any illness at all. 100% at preventing serious illness. American ones are like 95 and 100. Anyway apparently the cool thing about the American mRNA tech is how quickly you can modify it. I think I read that if they get approval Pfizer and Moderna can poo poo out variant vaccines in like 6 weeks, just recode the mRNA strands and bam, new vaccine. No dealing with dead carrier viruses etc. Bum the Sad fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Mar 23, 2021 |
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 16:42
|
|
|
url posted:Raising Ant Finance for ED Problems are Not Hard  if Ant Group was subject to party crackdown because someone confused them with the powdered insect boner tonic scam.Bum the Sad posted:This is incorrect. It’s like 91% effective in preventing any illness at all. 100% at preventing serious illness. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Mar 23, 2021 |
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 17:26
|
|
|
It's seriously exciting tech. There's also the potential for an mRNA Malaria vaccine which would be an absolute game changer for the developing world if it works.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 17:33
|
|
|
Bum the Sad posted:This is incorrect. It’s like 91% effective in preventing any illness at all. 100% at preventing serious illness. It's not American mRNA tech op.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 17:43
|
|
|
Bum the Sad posted:This is incorrect. It’s like 91% effective in preventing any illness at all. 100% at preventing serious illness. BBC posted:Interim data from late-stage trials in Turkey and Indonesia showed that the vaccine was 91.25% and 65.3% effective respectively. I used to work for the company that makes the machines that all of the pharma companies (literally all of them, even the ones that have used traditional vaccine tech for their Covid vaccines) use to encapsulate the mRNA in lipid nanoparticles. The ability to rapidly respond to new variants by changing the mRNA is huge, provided that the FDA will provide a way for simple mRNA tweaks to be fast tracked through approval. Also, while mRNA vaccines are neat, they are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what lipid nanoparticle delivery systems can do.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 18:11
|
|
|
A lot of people are making a thing about China having the "now world's largest Navy," but if you use the statistic of total "ships" instead of total tonnage it's not China that has the largest Navy in the world, it's North Korea. It's a pretty clickbaity take. It's very likely that China will probably surpass Russia in the next decade in terms of tonnage but the size of the US Navy is loving absurd.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 19:18
|
|
|
The US Navy has the world's second-largest airforce after the US Airforce, q.e.d.McGavin posted:Also, while mRNA vaccines are neat, they are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what lipid nanoparticle delivery systems can do.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 19:20
|
|
|
Shumagorath posted:The US Navy has the world's second-largest airforce after the US Airforce, q.e.d. US Navy and the USMC both have more fighters than the USAF IIRC.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 19:25
|
|
|
Shumagorath posted:What's special about that delivery method? It lets things that are usually stuck on the outside of cells get inside cells. Or, in the case of mRNA, protects molecules that would normally degrade in your body until they can get inside your cells.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 21:00
|
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:A lot of people are making a thing about China having the "now world's largest Navy," but if you use the statistic of total "ships" instead of total tonnage it's not China that has the largest Navy in the world, it's North Korea. So China has the HEAVIEST navy in the world? Wouldn't that be a bad thing? Coz they would sink? Shouldn't they have invested in jetskis and rowboats instead? I am a smart military strategist.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 22:27
|
|
|
I think you misinterpreted that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 22:37
|
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:I think you misinterpreted that. Oh no! So I am not as smart a military strategist as I think I am. (I am not making fun of you OP by the way. I was just making a stupid silly joke.)
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 22:44
|
|
|
No, I know, but based on the joke you read it backwards. Just so anyone reading this doesn’t get confused. Chinas navy had more boats and less weight than the United States, which is the heaviest in the world (most tonnage) by about double Russia’s fleet. Most of China’s “ships” are more like torpedo boats.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 22:50
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 20:51 |
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:No, I know, but based on the joke you read it backwards. Just so anyone reading this doesn’t get confused. Fair enough. Sorry. I truly don't know poo poo or understand anything about military strategy and stuff like that. Or humour apparently.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2021 22:58
|
|