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In Q Into the Storm, the Watkins really come off as deranged weirdos. I know they are, but mainly because they're trying to put on this aloof, mysterious air because it's still 2018 and they aren't burying their connections to Qanon so they don't go to jail since they're both in legal trouble for other things too. I've only seen the first two episodes like most people not in the media and it's very obvious they're very dated. They also make the Q people look better the same way the one flat Earth docu on Netflix, Behind the Curve, does by not showing all the anti-Semitism in the book the one focus guy is obsessed with or probably talks about all the time. I know the documentarian wanted to interview them but he sacrifices a lot of his objectivity by not depicting these people as being as bad as they are.
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LionYeti posted:The reviews that I'm reading out there seem to indicate it doesn't get better. https://www.theverge.com/22330129/hbo-qanon-documentary-q-into-the-storm-review Oh... that sounds pretty crappy, then. I was hoping the second episode was about the last we’d see of the chan people. Although I did wonder how this would be stretched out into six episodes. And there’s the answer.
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MrMojok posted:Oh... that sounds pretty crappy, then. I was hoping the second episode was about the last we’d see of the chan people. Its also hilarious that Dan Olsen in his In Search of a Flat Earth video does in one hour what HBO and Netflix fail to do in about 8.
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Mar 22, 2021 22:18
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Watching casuals cover QAnon or Alex Jones when they don't know how to do it is so frustrating. Media Matters is bad enough.
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Bannon conspired with the Interenet Research Agency. Cambridge Analytica scraped Facebook, gave the FSB the dox. Sockpuppet armies push qanon, producing waves of true believers. A campaign of stochastic terrorism is also waged across traditional and social media, also employing sockpuppet armies and degrees of collusion - and keeping a stranglehold on the 'overton window.' The 'bernie-to-MAGA' pipepline was set up, and goes back to Occupy and Stading Rock. Qanon has infiltrated leftist communities, in a deliberate effort to close the horseshoe. It's working. It's one large op. It's the one that the us intel people are talking about now, where putin set up influence campaigns, and it's the continuation of the one Trump was impeached for (first), where collusion happens between bannon and putin to aid trump's efforts at election. The polling going in was top-notch. The variance is a measure of how effective this op was at rigging the outcome given the rules and playing field. Consenstently, all of this has worked in concert to cause maximum human suffering. It's fascist, and it must be called out and stopped. This is a /part/ of what I keep calling 'the international fascist machine.'
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Mar 22, 2021 23:44
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Lots of people have pointed out that a function of the 00's era anti-furry rhetoric was just being able to be homophobic and get away with it. I remember seeing "ironic" calls to round up all furries onto an island and then just drop a bomb on it "and be done with it". Like, hmm, where have I seen that argument before I remember some Syrian refugees up in Canada were staying at the same hotel that a furry con was happening and the kids loved it.
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Mar 22, 2021 23:55
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Lammasu posted:I remember some Syrian refugees up in Canada were staying at the same hotel that a furry con was happening and the kids loved it. I defended the furries, dig up the logs  e: that yiffy star creeped me out
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Mar 23, 2021 00:05
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Lammasu posted:I remember some Syrian refugees up in Canada were staying at the same hotel that a furry con was happening and the kids loved it. https://www.vice.com/en/article/xd79j3/syrian-refugees-welcomed-to-canada-with-furry-convention yeah thats a heart warming story. the costumes are always creative but seem like they would be awful to wear at times. id love to get into comic con cosplay like a cool intricate Admech TechPriest outfit that uses my wheelchair and stuff but i am poor and a handy person.
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Mar 23, 2021 00:08
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Uglycat posted:e: that yiffy star creeped me out Yeh, can we not do that again.
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Mar 23, 2021 00:31
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wrong thread lol
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Mar 23, 2021 02:46
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god the questions in the hbo doc are such softballs.
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dont have access to hbomax is it true the docu filmmakers accompanied jim and ron watkins to a child brothel
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Phobophilia posted:dont have access to hbomax is it true the docu filmmakers accompanied jim and ron watkins to a child brothel would not be surprised if that happens
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Elias_Maluco posted:Seriously: the internet taught me to despise furries and it wanst until very recently that I realized the most of them are just queer kids; usually very progressive, and at the very least, harmless I mean the furry community had a serious nazi problem of its own as well. People like to commend them for pushing the Nazis out but not ask how they got there in the first place. And granted, i don't think they're all nazis. I figure its more of a benign issue of not wanting to be ostracizers to members of their own community, and society at large didnt take nazis as seriously as maybe we should have. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 23, 2021 05:40
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Phobophilia posted:dont have access to hbomax is it true the docu filmmakers accompanied jim and ron watkins to a child brothel Unless they're out back, behind the barn they keep the pigs in, they haven't gone yet. It wouldn't surprise me because they're paling around with Jim and Ron in a way that seems less than objective.
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Mar 23, 2021 15:13
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Yeah that's a frequent problem when respectable journalists do a profile on right wing extremists. Years of institutional momentum and ritualized interview procedure taught them to never call someone a racist to their faces and to always project a calming aura. Then you get the worst people imaginable being allowed to paint themselves in the best light, and it sucks so much.
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Mar 23, 2021 16:55
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Apparently the documentary started filming in 2018 as well, and QAnon 2 and a half years ago was very different from QAnon now. Which is why it seems to treat it as hokey.
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Mar 23, 2021 17:08
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I don’t like the trend of taking something that would be a great single part documentary and stretching it to a 10 episode miniseries. The Jinx/Tiger King/Making a Murderer...etc.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:03
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The Jinx was good but could've just been the 2 minutes at the end of the last episode. OK BYE-BYE
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Mar 23, 2021 21:35
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LionYeti posted:Its also hilarious that Dan Olsen in his In Search of a Flat Earth video does in one hour what HBO and Netflix fail to do in about 8. 
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On one side 8kun is a haven for mass shooters, qanon nut jobs and all other kinds of poo poo. On the other side the creators are just so gosh dang fun to hang out with. (Into the storm in a nutshell) Wheres Documentary Now! when you need it?
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axolotl farmer posted:I don’t like the trend of taking something that would be a great single part documentary and stretching it to a 10 episode miniseries. https://twitter.com/robmulholland/status/1369257271860035584
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Also if your documentary mentions somethingawful.com multiple times it's probably too long
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They didn't even touch the mid-west commune situation. Shameful.
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Despera posted:Also if your documentary mentions somethingawful.com multiple times it's probably too long They didn't even mention why moot left. Which seems quite relevant.
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Mar 23, 2021 22:49
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If New York actually ends up trying to extradite Trump for trial I can't wait to see the QAnon reaction.
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Right now qanon thinks the boulder shooter was going after MAGA. The problem though is boulder is one of the most liberal places in the United State
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Watching the Q doc on HBO: Ron Watkins speaks with the same cadence and tone as Jared Leto's character in Blade Runner 2049 it's weird.
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Ashmole posted:Watching the Q doc on HBO: Ron Watkins speaks with the same cadence and tone as Jared Leto's character in Blade Runner 2049 it's weird. That's on HBO Max. I should watch it. As soon as I get up the nerve to watch the Snyder cut.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Seriously: the internet taught me to despise furries and it wanst until very recently that I realized the most of them are just queer kids; usually very progressive, and at the very least, harmless So are we gonna yiff or what
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bird with big dick posted:So are we gonna yiff or what 
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Despera posted:Right now qanon thinks the boulder shooter was going after MAGA. The problem though is boulder is one of the most liberal places in the United State How is that a problem for them? It's not like facts have any bearing on what they believe.
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Despera posted:Right now qanon thinks the boulder shooter was going after MAGA. The problem though is boulder is one of the most liberal places in the United State I've shopped in that King Soopers. It's like 2 blocks from my high school :/
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I honestly think the mass shootings are (in part) a result of a deliberate campaign of stochastic terrorism, and that the same sockpuppet armies signal-boosting qanon are also working to gaslight and traumatizing a sizeable group of targeted individuals into being convinced they are targeted individuals and into behaving antisocially and mistrusting everyone and isolating and radicalizing in any-which-way. Like, wanna place wagers on this boulder shooter believing he's been 'gangstalked'?
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IMO the mass shootings are mostly the effect of the complete dehumanization and vilification of a nebulous 'other' by media. If you believe that liberals eat babies and that their illegitimate president is moments from inviting communist china in to arrest and eradicate 'patriotic' americans then the only real outlet is to go kill randoms.
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Uglycat posted:I honestly think the mass shootings are (in part) a result of a deliberate campaign of stochastic terrorism, and that the same sockpuppet armies signal-boosting qanon are also working to gaslight and traumatizing a sizeable group of targeted individuals into being convinced they are targeted individuals and into behaving antisocially and mistrusting everyone and isolating and radicalizing in any-which-way. Like, wanna place wagers on this boulder shooter believing he's been 'gangstalked'? Yea this is pretty much Alex Jones' stock-in-trade. Energizing susceptible people is how he sells food buckets and when one of these tragedies inevitably occurs he re-doubles the message: you need these supplements and food buckets for your armored redoubt. They moan about the "Hegelian Dialectic" when it is precisely what they are doing.
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Uglycat posted:I honestly think the mass shootings are (in part) a result of a deliberate campaign of stochastic terrorism, and that the same sockpuppet armies signal-boosting qanon are also working to gaslight and traumatizing a sizeable group of targeted individuals into being convinced they are targeted individuals and into behaving antisocially and mistrusting everyone and isolating and radicalizing in any-which-way. Like, wanna place wagers on this boulder shooter believing he's been 'gangstalked'? Here's the thing: it doesn't matter what the murderer believed. It absolutely doesn't matter because nothing is a justification for murdering your neighbors. I don't need to know why he did it. I need to know why someone with CLEAR broken brains had such easy access to murder machines.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Here's the thing: it doesn't matter what the murderer believed. It absolutely doesn't matter because nothing is a justification for murdering your neighbors. Do you need to know that there's a deliberate fascist plost to foster and encourage the conditions under which this happens with increasingly greater frequency? And that qanon - is just one part of that larger op?
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Uglycat posted:Do you need to know that there's a deliberate fascist plost to foster and encourage the conditions under which this happens with increasingly greater frequency? And that qanon - is just one part of that larger op? Not really, since the problem is mostly easy access to firearms.
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