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punishedkissinger posted:you can craft bowls? It's various foods.
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Bioshuffle posted:Have any of you had to straight up abandon your body with all your gear in it? Yep, which is why I’m glad I buried an extra full set of gear beneath my house like John Wick.
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Mar 23, 2021 16:28
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Theres only one place you absolutely can't recover your corpse from and you'd be very dumb to go there.
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Mar 23, 2021 16:32
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But also you should definitely go there
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Mar 23, 2021 16:38
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I got stuck in a death loop by building too close to the plains when trying to get to Bonemass, I ended up using cheat mode to recover it. Technically I could have remade all my gear and I think that's how they "expect" you to play but I was kinda salty about the situation. I did naked runs, I did stealthy troll hide armor runs, I tried to block them with a shield and take them out runs and I was building a lovely graveyard near their spawn point. So I said gently caress it and swapped to godmode.
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xzzy posted:I got stuck in a death loop by building too close to the plains when trying to get to Bonemass, I ended up using cheat mode to recover it. Bioshuffle posted:The prospect of dying in a place where body retrieval is impossible is one that gets to me. Earlier today, I was navigating a river when I got beached while surrounded by plains on both sides. A mob of goblins started to swarm me and I thought I was dead. Somehow managed to lay down a workbench, repair, and push ny ship to safety. plester1 posted:Yep, which is why I’m glad I buried an extra full set of gear beneath my house like John Wick. Just so you all know, there is a Body Recovery Service. They neither request nor accept any kind of payment or trade for their service. You can get a hold of them via their Discord. No matter what stupid rear end situation you have dropped your body into (including hoards of 50 Fulings, in the middle of the Ocean with nothing near it. In a pit filled with Rock Golems, Wolves, etc), they guarantee they will get your poo poo back. https://discord.gg/X73uR4gjKa
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Mar 23, 2021 16:42
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My situation was like a week after launch, that didn't exist at that point. And I'm not handing out my server password to strangers anyways, no matter how cool they seem to be. 
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Mar 23, 2021 16:43
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xzzy posted:My situation was like a week after launch, that didn't exist at that point. Hey, you do you, they have piles and piles of testimonials though, usually they also do neat things like kill Sea Serpents along the way to your body and give you helpful pointers (also you can put wards on your village, change the password for them to come in, then change it when they leave) e: Also you can just make a back up of your server before calling them. Then do nothing until they get there, and if by some odd occurrence you got a random weirdo who went through their long application and interview process, who then went out on team recoveries before then going on a solo one, just to mess with your game, you can just revert it
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Mar 23, 2021 16:44
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why the hell are sea serpents so nutritious
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:why the hell are sea serpents so nutritious it's the chicken of the sea
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toadee posted:Just so you all know, there is a Body Recovery Service. They neither request nor accept any kind of payment or trade for their service. You can get a hold of them via their Discord. No matter what stupid rear end situation you have dropped your body into (including hoards of 50 Fulings, in the middle of the Ocean with nothing near it. In a pit filled with Rock Golems, Wolves, etc), they guarantee they will get your poo poo back. My private server does hardcore runs, including going to the place where you can't recover your body as a victory sendoff 
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Mar 23, 2021 16:56
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plester1 posted:My private server does hardcore runs, including going to the place where you can't recover your body as a victory sendoff Well yes, not there. Here though it looks to me like one of the BRS clients managed to spawn three copies of Yagluth: 
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Mar 23, 2021 17:01
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I think there's no limit to the number of bosses you can spawn, that youtube guy that likes to break games spawned so many Elders the game was unplayable. If you got the offerings, spam as fast as you can!
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Mar 23, 2021 17:08
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 Greydwarf toaster. You provided me all the stone you could.
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Kinda irritated by having to set a parameter, and read a "You're playing it wrong!" message before I unlock the debug commands. Some strong 'listening to the screaming 1%' energy there.
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Some of these changes do not bode well for the future of the game IMO. The devs seem pretty hell bent on preventing people from having fun in ways they don't like. I don't use the console for anything other than modding and I have never harpooned a boss or created a Greydwarf toaster but why would the devs feel the need to dedicate time and resources, to "fixing" those? Why make the hammer and cultivator have delays? Just, why? They just sold millions of copies of their game and this is the stuff they are prioritizing? Not good. FLIPADELPHIA fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 23, 2021 17:36
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I wonder how long ago they started working on these changes?
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Mar 23, 2021 17:52
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That's an awfully strong reaction to a few small changes made by a dev group that just came out with a game that is pretty loving excellent.
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Mar 23, 2021 17:53
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An understandable one though, I think. Lots of promising games have gone down the route of realizing their players were having too much fun and focusing on trying to stamp it out. I don't get it, but I can understand why people might be wary of it. And it's very clear the majority of "regulars" on the official steam forums really really want them to go down that route.
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Mar 23, 2021 17:57
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by pondering extremely hard on the fact that they fixed a bug that gives chairs priority over thrones, i can discern that they wish to turn valheim into a freemium MOBA-style game aimed at the Twitch market
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Some of these changes do not bode well for the future of the game IMO. The devs seem pretty hell bent on preventing people from having fun in ways they don't like. I don't use the console for anything other than modding and I have never harpooned a boss or created a Greydwarf toaster but why would the devs feel the need to dedicate time and resources, to "fixing" those? Why make the hammer and cultivator have delays? Just, why? Possibly because these simple things take about 50 seconds to fix and adding whole new systems and the other roadmap things they have planned take months?
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Thank you for the standard "but this game is good!" response that doesn't address what I said, at all. Yes, the game is excellent. Yes, these changes are "small" and "few". They also represent a significant chunk of the overall changes made since the game was released. It is indicative of their priorities and the indication is that they are as or more concerned with "fixing" people farming greydwarves with extremely elaborate (and funny) fire torture pits as they are with adding content or fixing actual gameplay issues. As for things taking 50 seconds to fix, perhaps they could take other 50 second chunk of time to fix their awful netcode which has been modded by amateurs to allow for much greater flow of traffic, with only minor edits that would take less than 50 seconds to implement. I would think that horrible game breaking lag for groups of more than 2 people would be a higher priority than telling people who use the console that they have been "warned". FLIPADELPHIA fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 23, 2021 18:02
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GlyphGryph posted:An understandable one though, I think. Lots of promising games have gone down the route of realizing their players were having too much fun and focusing on trying to stamp it out. I don't get it, but I can understand why people might be wary of it. And it's very clear the overwhelming majority of folks on the official steam forums really really want them to go down that route.  It's pretty irritating to be playing on a server with friends and acquaintances, and watching them just cheat the chests full of resources for stuff and glitch metals back to base.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:by pondering extremely hard on the fact that they fixed a bug that gives chairs priority over thrones, i can discern that they wish to turn valheim into a freemium MOBA-style game aimed at the Twitch market This is an incredibly stupid and backwards way to interpret the stated concerns but you do you.
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Mar 23, 2021 18:03
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One minor patch and the doomsaying begins, is that a new record?
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PittTheElder posted:
They can still do that and nothing the devs have done so far will address this at all?
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Mar 23, 2021 18:10
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:I would think that horrible game breaking lag for groups of more than 2 people would be a higher priority than telling people who use the console that they have been "warned". Isn't this the major fix from this patch? PittTheElder posted:
Was this... fixed by the patch somehow? Personally, I think the current patch is actually pretty good and the only weird things is the campfire thing and the hard harpoon nerf. I don't see any particular reason to worry, but I also understood why people might worry.
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jkyuusai posted:This is an incredibly stupid and backwards way to interpret the stated concerns but you do you. i'm sorry i'm not taking the State of the Vikings concerns particularly seriously and will resolve to do better in future the concerns are, imo, insane, so perhaps you could go and do you, instead
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I didn't enjoy having to use campfires to farm stone so it's not like they're taking away my fun time, but I do wish they would reconsider how much certain stone building pieces take. You can make a 4x2x1 stone wall with 6 stone but a set of 2x2x1 stairs takes 8 and a 2x2x1 stone floor tile takes 6, so if your project takes a lot of stairs and/or stone floors you're gonna be hurting for stone.
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Broken Cog posted:One minor patch and the doomsaying begins, is that a new record? But they made you opt into having the console available ! Why didn't they release two new biomes instead?
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Bioshuffle posted:The prospect of dying in a place where body retrieval is impossible is one that gets to me. Earlier today, I was navigating a river when I got beached while surrounded by plains on both sides. A mob of goblins started to swarm me and I thought I was dead. Somehow managed to lay down a workbench, repair, and push ny ship to safety. Boyfriend went super deep into plains before he realized how deadly it was in our attempt to get to Elder (Our Elder spawned very far away from our initial island despite there being a ton of black forest surrounding us), worst part was as he tried to run to the Elder spawn, we found out there was an entire island of swamp and plains and mountain that was like four times longer than our starting island blocking us from the Elder spawn. Needless to say, it was terrifying settling near that Blackforest, which graciously had a tiny meadows to settle in, and required a Cape of Good Hope level of navigation to get to.
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They changed harpoons not being able to be used on bosses and campfires taking damage when they deal damage because you could literally just cheese bosses by boxing them in with a campfire or dragging them up a tree for your friends to hit in the butt and unable to attack back, I've never felt the need to use harpoons or campfires on bosses and don't feel like fixing exploits like that is "ruining the game" They didn't remove the console either, you just have to add -console to the launch commands and type devcommands instead of imacheater (I much prefer that to imacheater because I kept typing iamacheater instead), people can still use the console to "console" themselves and replace lost equipment on deaths they deem unfair or save themselves a few hours of their life by spawning in a thousand rocks for a vanity building project. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Yeah, building out of stone takes an oppressive amount. they either need to increase how much you get from breaking rocks in the world, or decreasing the amount it takes to build.
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Floppychop posted:Yeah, building out of stone takes an oppressive amount. they either need to increase how much you get from breaking rocks in the world, or decreasing the amount it takes to build. The worst part is the more you mine the worse your game lag is going to be in that area, so you're incentivized to put your quarry very far away, but that also makes it a pain in the rear end to haul it. Stone really needs a rebalance, it's already a pain in the rear end to use.
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Wood Floor 2x2: 2 Wood Stone Floor 2x2: 6 Stone Wood Stair 2x2: 2 Wood Stone Stair 2x2: 8 Stone Wood Wall 2x2 two pieces: 4 Wood Stone Wall 4x2: 6 Stone Wood Wall half 2x1: 1 Wood Stone Wall 2x1: 4 Stone Stone Wall 1x1: 3 Stone Wood Pole 2m: 2 Wood Stone Pillar 1x1x2: 5 Stone Guess I gotta go mine under some of those cool Plains rocks.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i'm sorry i'm not taking the State of the Vikings concerns particularly seriously and will resolve to do better in future You did an incredibly bad faith reading of a post in a poor attempt to get a dunk in.
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Floppychop posted:Yeah, building out of stone takes an oppressive amount. they either need to increase how much you get from breaking rocks in the world, or decreasing the amount it takes to build. 4 stone to raise ground is a lot, as well. Especially when it can be really fiddly when it wants.
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Clitch posted:4 stone to raise ground is a lot, as well. Especially when it can be really fiddly when it wants. Between the raise ground trick to bring it up to the highest point+1 and then using the pickaxe to spread that out while bringing it down, it's pretty easy to get a big flat plateau without using much stone.
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Reik posted:Wood Floor 2x2: 2 Wood Honestly, just preserve your worlds natural beauty and console in rocks for your projects, there is no challenge in mining a bunch of rocks besides the challenge of having the time to waste and tolerance for the tedium of it.
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