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The incredibly lovely job of covering how bad the accusations really are has made me consider that hiring a showboater clown as your lawyer is probably a good move.
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The only time I’ve seen the common man at FH (50s, from south Florida, mad at the world) defend Watson was against these women so... i can’t imagine what PFT comments look like
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Anyone else wondering if Watsons deciding he wanted out of Houston was affected by his own knowledge of these incidents, fears about potential legal trouble or discussion/rumours about these issues within the Texans front office?
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wooger posted:Anyone else wondering if Watsons deciding he wanted out of Houston was affected by his own knowledge of these incidents, fears about potential legal trouble or discussion/rumours about these issues within the Texans front office? Watson had absolutely no idea this was a big deal or unlawful behavior as recently as last week. One of his victims said the incident occurred less than three weeks ago. This poo poo has absolutely nothing to do with trading or anything. The Texans aren't involved, and Watson couldn't have imagined that this could be a bad thing for him. He's done this hundreds of times in his life.
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Mar 23, 2021 18:17
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Mr. Nice! posted:Watson had absolutely no idea this was a big deal or unlawful behavior as recently as last week. One of his victims said the incident occurred less than three weeks ago. Him taking steps to keep them quiet indicates that he knew it was potentially unlawful. Doubt it had anything to do with trade demands though yeah.
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Mar 23, 2021 18:24
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Charles Robinson also said that the women are from multiple states and not just Houston area. https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1374380739597266951
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Him taking steps to keep them quiet indicates that he knew it was potentially unlawful. Doubt it had anything to do with trade demands though yeah. Nah. He just said "don't tell anyone about this." That's standard celebrity stuff. They're going to ask everyone they interact with to say nothing. He did this with a woman in Atlanta, Georgia on March 3. Someone doesn't behave in this fashion if they think they may actually face consequences. Diva Cupcake posted:Charles Robinson also said that the women are from multiple states and not just Houston area. That's correct. He assaults people in this fashion wherever he's at or flies them into Houston.
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Mar 23, 2021 18:32
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Mr. Nice! posted:Nah. He just said "don't tell anyone about this." That's standard celebrity stuff. They're going to ask everyone they interact with to say nothing. He did this with a woman in Atlanta, Georgia on March 3. Someone doesn't behave in this fashion if they think they may actually face consequences. I mean that still indicates that he knew that what he did was hosed up. Giving that one women references also sounded like a "hey keep quiet and I can make you money"
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Mar 23, 2021 18:44
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There’s no indication that if he successfully got himself traded that he’d stop this behavior in his new city. He’d have just kept doing this poo poo until it caught up with him.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Nah. He just said "don't tell anyone about this." That's standard celebrity stuff. They're going to ask everyone they interact with to say nothing. He did this with a woman in Atlanta, Georgia on March 3. Someone doesn't behave in this fashion if they think they may actually face consequences. I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. I knew someone in college who wasn't quite this lovely with women, but was pretty God drat lovely, and he just basically convinced himself that they were like pranks or practical jokes. Minimalizing your gently caress-ups internally is basic human nature.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:10
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. No way, I’m perfect up here in my ivory tower.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:13
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I can now picture a situation where Watson doesn't ever play in the NFL again and the Texans get nothing lol.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:19
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. Buddy there's a pretty big difference between (say (not me)) jacking off to faux incest porn and sexually assaulting and raping a woman every single week for roughly your entire post-pubescent life
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. wtf
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I can now picture a situation where Watson doesn't ever play in the NFL again and the Texans get nothing lol. Inshallah.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:23
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. this is a weapons grade awful take buddy i think watson is aware enough to know that serial sexual assault is Bad, and given his involvement in social justice he has even less excuse
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Mar 23, 2021 19:26
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Declan MacManus posted:this is a weapons grade awful take buddy Yeah you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying he's correct to say that sexually assaulting people is not a big deal. I'm saying it's very normal for people to take behavior that the vast majority of folks would consider extremely unacceptable and explain away their own practices as not that bad because x or y. You see that from people who serially commit offenses as small as littering and as big as loving murder. It's super common for people who commit sexual assault or sexual harassment to describe it as a prank or a joke. It doesn't justify it but it explains how somebody could commit the same bad activities several times and not feel the need to alter their behavior or even necessarily feel all that bad about it. That's the reason when someone commits a crime one of the prerequisites for being punished isn't that they feel bad about it. And when I'm saying that everybody has bad or immoral activities that they don't want to get caught doing but don't care enough to stop I'm not pulling a Terrell Prior. For me it's drinking too much, for you it might be talking poo poo behind people's backs or smoking or petty theft or or or or or.
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Yes that’s called rationalization
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. Some posts should stay in draft
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SKULL.GIF posted:Florio is being a dumb poo poo as usual. I'll be a bit contrary and say that I think Buzbee has actually done a great job here. He's kept the attention and spectacle firmly focused on him, which means he's getting a lot of the flak that would otherwise be directed at Deshaun's victims. He won a $100m settlement that was later reduced by $99m by a judge because Texas
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Mar 23, 2021 19:51
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BrownThunder posted:Some posts should stay in draft
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Fuller you're not on the team anymore you can just, I dunno, not say anything https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1374434391275958283
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Intruder posted:Fuller you're not on the team anymore you can just, I dunno, not say anything hmm that's true but he also said he already texted Tua to schedule some practice time, so there is some bad and some good... 
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Mar 23, 2021 19:58
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BrownThunder posted:Some posts should stay in draft
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Mar 23, 2021 19:59
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it feels like I read this yesterday https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/texans-quarterback-deshaun-watson-announcing-hes-seeking-to-help-evicted-families-in-houston everything loving sucks
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Mystic Stylez posted:it feels like I read this yesterday You did. The mothers of these families are massage therapists.
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Mar 23, 2021 20:05
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Someone get JJ Watt on the record.
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm sure everybody in this forum does something bad they would prefer people not find out about, but don't think it's bad enough to actually stop. I also have lots of acquaintances who are sexual predators (?) and it’s just human nature (??)
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^^^^^^ I knew a dude in college who was waaaaay too aggressive hitting on women and made everyone uncomfortable. To my knowledge he never did anything physical but it wouldn't surprise me. He was completely immune to criticism. It's not human nature to harass women but it is human nature to aggressively minimalize your faults I fail to see how "people convince themselves that lovely things aren't lovely all the time" is some nuclear take. Rationalization and transparent cognative dissonance was part of how Weinstein and Cosby defended themselves and explained their actions. Most human beings justify their immorality and amorality in the same ways and it's just a matter of scale as to how much they have to spin. About 6 years ago, last Wednesday, people in this thread were talking about how common it is for massage therapists to be harassed. I strongly feel like if you treat bad people as some sort of total mystery it makes it harder for you to evaluate your own actions and your own personal morality. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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BrownThunder posted:Some posts should stay in draft it's called a mock draft because it's laughable
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If he would've said "everyone has probably done SOMETHING* that was kinda lovely and wish they could take back" then I'd agree. But yeah, bad take. *not exclusive to sexual assault!
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I seriously don't think Eifert was saying that deep down we're all rapists, guys.
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Black Sunshine posted:If he would've said "everyone has probably done SOMETHING* that was kinda lovely and wish they could take back" then I'd agree. But yeah, bad take. This is like exactly opposite of the point that I'm making though. What I'm saying is we all do lovely things that we don't wish we could take back and we probably will do again because we have some sort of internal justification for doing it. When someone like Watson does something like this over and over and over again Occam's razor says he's made some sort of internal decision that it's okay to continue doing it. That's obviously a massive and inexcusable failing on his part. I hope and expect that no one posting in the football funhouse has such a severe example of it, but it's a good reminder to think critically about your actions and try and catch yourself when you're giving yourself excuses to continue doing something you feel ethically uncomfortable about.
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That's a take that depending how you mean it is either so banal it's pointless or minimizing sexual assault by comparing it to drinking too much. In summary,BrownThunder posted:Some posts should stay in draft
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Eifert Posting posted:it's a good reminder to think critically about your actions and try and catch yourself when you're giving yourself excuses to continue doing something you feel ethically uncomfortable about. Take this approach to posting about this topic. Please
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https://twitter.com/SportsVanessa/status/1374444407395471377?s=20 NBC Houston reporter
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Eifert Posting posted:This is like exactly opposite of the point that I'm making though. What I'm saying is we all do lovely things that we don't wish we could take back and we probably will do again because we have some sort of internal justification for doing it. When someone like Watson does something like this over and over and over again Occam's razor says he's made some sort of internal decision that it's okay to continue doing it. That's obviously a massive and inexcusable failing on his part. Hey Eifert. I get what you are saying, but like, ... no poo poo? Of course people rationalize their bad behavior, of course. No one on the planet thinks Watsons going "oh man, im such a horrific rapist, god this is such scummy poo poo I am doing, anyways time to hit up the gram"
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https://twitter.com/sarahbarshop/status/1374452794510381069?s=21 https://twitter.com/sarahbarshop/status/1374453157699280897?s=21 b0ng fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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