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My kid owned me the other day by smashing the back door in my face while I was talking to my wife. Then sarcastically going "Ooh, Dadda bumped head. It's sore"
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Mar 21, 2021 14:22
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unless your kid is like 17. then it’s time for counseling.
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Mar 21, 2021 14:23
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President Beep posted:unless your kid is like 17. then it’s time for counseling. Nah he's two. This morning he was running around with just a shirt on. My wife asked if he wanted pants on and he ran off yell screaming "NOOOO! I LIKE MY BUMMM!"
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Mar 21, 2021 14:26
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rotor posted:posting the #1 most brutal own my son ever did on me: lol
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Mar 21, 2021 16:53
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rotor posted:posting the #1 most brutal own my son ever did on me: amazing
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Mar 21, 2021 20:41
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When is it developmentally appropriate to tell your kids how much the world sucks? I assume this is like the sex talk where if they make it to highschool without the sit down they're going to be at a huge social and emotional development disadvantage
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Mar 23, 2021 22:50
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TimWinter posted:When is it developmentally appropriate to tell your kids how much the world sucks? I assume this is like the sex talk where if they make it to highschool without the sit down they're going to be at a huge social and emotional development disadvantage this is something i've been very deliberate about not infecting them with. Its something they can find out on their own. A friend in high school killed himself and ecological doombrains was a big part of it.
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Mar 23, 2021 23:03
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God drat.
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Mar 23, 2021 23:06
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rotor posted:this is something i've been very deliberate about not infecting them with. Its something they can find out on their own. A friend in high school killed himself and ecological doombrains was a big part of it.
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Mar 23, 2021 23:11
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I always held it against my folks when it turns out the world is becoming quickly uninhabitable and they still just shrug their shoulders like this isn't a problem they are supposed to be aware of. Obviously inducing suicide in your kids is one of the too-far-in-the-other-direction outcomes.
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Mar 23, 2021 23:13
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Sucks about your friend though. That's got to change everyone he knew pretty hard.
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Mar 23, 2021 23:14
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TimWinter posted:When is it developmentally appropriate to tell your kids how much the world sucks? I assume this is like the sex talk where if they make it to highschool without the sit down they're going to be at a huge social and emotional development disadvantage when they’re old enough to play FF7R
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Mar 23, 2021 23:15
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evil_bunnY posted:Yeah there's very distinct difference between teaching about sucky systems (acab, econ, etc) vs sucky world. im not so sure that's true. I mean obviously there's a line, I'm not like mr-everything-is-sunshine-and-roses but teaching kids how fundamentally hosed up the systems all are at an age that they are too young to do anything meaningful about is actively harmful for kids. I mean poo poo, i'm old as hell and it's hard for me to convince myself that I do anything meaningful about it, I'm not about to lay this guilt on a teen. Like yeah acab and yeah the economy is hosed up and you can probaby talk about those separately but kids will fuckin connect the dots without you. all this is eye em oh obviously
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Mar 23, 2021 23:20
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I'm not sure I disagree with you, but you can bet your rear end we don't have toy police around the house, and do have discussions about what exactly the police does, for example. I'm white as gently caress but I've lived long term in 4 coutries and 5-0 is horrible everywhere. I will not raise a child to trust them. When to introduce your kids to the "parpaing de la réalité" remains tricky. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Mar 23, 2021 23:26
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we all make the decisions we feel will work out best for our kids in the situations they are in and we hope for the best.
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Mar 23, 2021 23:34
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TimWinter posted:When is it developmentally appropriate to tell your kids how much the world sucks? I assume this is like the sex talk where if they make it to highschool without the sit down they're going to be at a huge social and emotional development disadvantage I'm actively trying to train myself out of paying any attention to it.
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I tell my kids about homelessness and poverty and stuff in context Like my daughter is very sweet natured and will say things like ‘daddy we are lucky to live in our house, especially when it’s raining or we’d get all wet’ and i’ll say for sure, it’s important to be aware of how lucky we are, not everyone has a house or enough to eat etc i think kids will develop their own view of the world as doomed or not and it’s our role to try to just answer their questions honestly and keep judgement out of it where possible. like if i said ‘peeps are homeless because <the govt/rich jerks/they lazy> ‘ that’s a whole other thing, and something I try to avoid. but i don’t want to sugarcoat the world either. the other day on the news some peeps in britain were firebombing some cop cars and she was wtfing, so I explained that they were angry at the cops for doing something they didn’t like (it was about some new law that gave police powers to detain non violent protestors). she just said ‘ok’ and went back to playing. being a 6 year old must own
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TimWinter posted:When is it developmentally appropriate to tell your kids how much the world sucks? I assume this is like the sex talk where if they make it to highschool without the sit down they're going to be at a huge social and emotional development disadvantage i think your assumption means more in an individualistic setting (i.e. you're homeschooling, you have to move around a lot, or your kid doesn't have a peer group for other reasons). within a steady peer group it doesn't hold as much because the kids generally all grow and question and learn at more or less the same rate in the context of the same events i know "it takes a village" sucks as an answer but your question is "how do i make my kid not look like a naive idiot in the context of our village"
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Mar 24, 2021 11:54
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Home schooling seems like the most insane thing to me. Even if you were a trained educator, it still seems nuts. Like being a surgeon and wanting to perform surgery on your own kid.
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Mar 24, 2021 12:24
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my fundie aunt and uncle homeschooled a number of their 12 children. yes, they largely turned out very hosed up.
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Mar 24, 2021 12:26
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doomerism is mostly a matter of things not conforming to expectations, kids raised today with a reasonably clear view of the world will be more suited to be happy in the world as it is (and will more clearly see how to improve it where possible) than us.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:doomerism is mostly a matter of things not conforming to expectations, kids raised today with a reasonably clear view of the world will be more suited to be happy in the world as it is (and will more clearly see how to improve it where possible) than us. this is dumb on two levels because it assumes both that there is an empirically correct view of the world and that you have it.
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rotor posted:we all make the decisions we feel will work out best for our kids in the situations they are in and we hope for the best.  Gentle Autist posted:being a 6 year old must own evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Stringent posted:this is dumb on two levels because it assumes both that there is an empirically correct view of the world and that you have it. saying "reasonably clear" is papering over a lot of poo poo yeah, i pretty explicitly decided not to get into that. the second part is entirely the opposite of what i am saying though: as an aged adult my understanding of the world is increasingly out of tune with what is observable, and doomerism is very driven by not really being able to square what is (appears to be) happening with a bunch of preconceptions from our youths. for example some really strange futurism ideas which we all marinated in at the time. but lets not dwell too deeply on that, just wanted to suggest that kids are more resilient to that kind of thing than one might worry about.
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Stringent posted:Home schooling seems like the most insane thing to me. Even if you were a trained educator, it still seems nuts. Like being a surgeon and wanting to perform surgery on your own kid.
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I want to homeschool because I’m extremely worried about like, shootings and poo poo, not to mention the potentially questionable quality of education. luckily for my kid I am not delusional enough to think I’m qualified to teach a little one and I understand the value of socialization. I just consider it my job to help educate as a supplement to the school system where appropriate (I had to cut out my dinner time news rants because while very fun to complain about cops the tone upsets the kiddo haha) I got like 4 years to worry about that tho
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Fart Sandwiches posted:I want to homeschool because I’m extremely worried about like, shootings and poo poo, not to mention the potentially questionable quality of education. luckily for my kid I am not delusional enough to think I’m qualified to teach a little one and I understand the value of socialization. I just consider it my job to help educate as a supplement to the school system where appropriate (I had to cut out my dinner time news rants because while very fun to complain about cops the tone upsets the kiddo haha)
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Mar 24, 2021 18:28
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Kenny Logins posted:hmm. yeah, didn't account for the american school shootings factor. on one hand its like worrying that your kid will get struck by lightning but on the other hand the overreaction to it and the ridiculous safety training they have to do has gotta be harmful, and on the other hand I had to do the same kind of trainings to prepare me for nuclear war so maybe its fine idk Im out of hands
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rotor posted:on one hand its like worrying that your kid will get struck by lightning but on the other hand the overreaction to it and the ridiculous safety training they have to do has gotta be harmful, and on the other hand I had to do the same kind of trainings to prepare me for nuclear war so maybe its fine idk Im out of hands
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Kenny Logins posted:i went through canadian elementary/middle/high school almost entirely within the 90s so i am relatively lucky to not have had cold war agonies, school shootings overreactivities, cell/smartphones, or social media/cyberbullying impacting my learning. truly blessed yeah but you may have jnco trauma
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My parents are both teachers and my wife is a teacher.... no way would they homeschool lol. It's kind of weird right now that my wife goes and looks after a bunch of different 2-4 year olds during the day and somebody else looks after ours but the era of living on one income is pretty much over and also lookign after your own kid all day is in a way harder than working at your job. Though I guess that kind of depends on age and how much effort you put in / how much uh "character" your child has
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ive been doing both at once and sometimes at the end of the day i feel like I’m gonna pass out. :thunbsup:
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Mar 25, 2021 00:04
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saves us like 75 smackaroos a week on daycare though so yolo
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my boss has a 3 year old and a 6 year old and i literally cannot imagine how hard that has been over the last year
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our seven year old goes to daycare twice a week so that i can be kinda productive and he gets to play with a bunch of other kids. toddler has to go full time though because there’s no way in hell i would get anything done if i had to watch him too.
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rotor posted:my boss has a 3 year old and a 6 year old and i literally cannot imagine how hard that has been over the last year if i tell my boss, who has a stay at home wife, that our daycare is closed for the day he makes me miss work
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President Beep posted:saves us like 75 smackaroos a week on daycare though so yolo surely you missed a digit in front
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hobbesmaster posted:surely you missed a digit in front yeah i was gonna say what discount rear end daycare are you using i know folks across the country paying 4 figures/mo per kid
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