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I was thinking about it and I believe the last time I was in a theatre was for Birds of Prey. Not the most memorable last theatre experience for the 1 1/2 - 2 years before I’m back in one.
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# ? May 26, 2024 14:04 |
Not going to the theater even though my second shot was last week. Not dropping 30 bucks on a subscription service I already pay for, either. We're just gonna time travel back twenty years and make sure the VPN is active.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 06:23 |
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I just finished JL and my not-so-hot take is that it was pretty good Pros
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Ultimately my biggest complaint with the Snyder Cut is my same complaint with the theatrical cut: When Superman is reborn he's still got that amniotic fluid or whatever on him and the whole fight scene plus the scene where he picks up Lois and flies away I'm like "loving gross". That fluid's been there for god only knows how long since MoS and by now it's already had Zod in it, Luthor standing around in it waist deep, and Luthor's blood in it. I don't care if he's lost his memory, the first thing Superman does shouldn't be to go stand menacingly at his monument, it should be to find a goddamn shower. Phylodox posted:I just remembered my biggest disappointment with Justice League. At the big climax, when Cyborg tells Flash to shoot him full of electricity “On one” and then starts counting down but gets interrupted, they didn’t have him eventually say “One, Barry! One!” TwoPair fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Implement Covid Vaccination Zones where only people who are vaccinated are allowed to go
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 10:21 |
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tbh if the weirdest thing to happen to a theater employee in a given day is that someone comes in to buy popcorn and leaves, that's probably a pretty good day for them!
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 12:21 |
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I just remembered that while watching Justice League I kept getting distracted and giggling every time we see Steppenwolf from behind because he’s got an adorable little glutey booty.
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TwoPair posted:I just finished JL and my not-so-hot take is that it was pretty good You don't understand how aspect ratio works. He couldn't just magically make the movie he shot in 4:3 be shot in 16:9. They would have had to cut big chunks of the picture off.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 13:57 |
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Vince MechMahon posted:You don't understand how aspect ratio works. He couldn't just magically make the movie he shot in 4:3 be shot in 16:9. They would have had to cut big chunks of the picture off.
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Endless Mike posted:This is not a great argument when we literally have a version of this movie that did exactly that.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 14:20 |
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I didn't mind the 4:3 after like 10 minutes but all of the Nolan IMAX movie are apparently?? cropped for the blurays and still look great on TV
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 14:24 |
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Endless Mike posted:This is not a great argument when we literally have a version of this movie that did exactly that. The comment was saying it seemed like this new aspect ratio was cutting things off the side. But this new ratio is the full image. Anything further to the sides was never on camera. The most you can do is crop off the top or bottom to make it widescreen. But then you are cutting things off the top and bottom.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 14:30 |
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It's not like filmmakers have never ever produced versions of their work to crop the frame appropriately for different formats with different aspect ratios.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 14:42 |
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Though you are getting the full image in 4:3, he almost certainly framed his images when shooting with the understanding that it would be cropped to 16:9/1.85 for the non-IMAX theatrical release (which the vast majority of cinemagoers would have seen). He could in theory have cropped to that specification for this recent release, but decided to go "gently caress it, I prefer it IMAX shaped with the full image even if it is at home", which I felt worked out pretty well. Had Snyder have stayed on and the version released in 2017 been his 2 hour cut rather than Whedon's, I reckon it would have been 1.85 in most cinemas. No way would WB allow pillar boxing on a mainstream general release, I reckon they're only allowing it now because this version is being marketed as an uncompromised vision so whatever Zack wants, he gets. Karloff fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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I'm sure in the normal run of things Snyder would happily create a cut of the film properly formatted for the majority of theater screens and not demand it be shown everywhere in the imax aspect ratio. But since this is his uncompromised ~*vision*~ it's a like it or lump it situation.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 14:51 |
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“So, what in a sense you’re saying is that there are certain situations where Zack can decide that it’s in the best interest of the film or something and do something un-cinematic?” “Well, when Zack does it … that means that it is not un-cinematic.“ I kid, I kid. Like I said, after 15 minutes I was barely even conscious of it.
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TwoPair posted:[*]Black Suit Superman: I guess a lot of people thought it looked cool and I liked it in the comics but didn't it serve some purpose there like to help him absorb sunlight more? In this it seemed to be just "people think this is cool so let's do this" and like... no it's not that cool, the movie's desaturated enough and Batman's right there... It does the same in the movie, tho it might’ve been made more clear. When he gets the suit he flies up into space and does his Jesus pose in front of the sun to get the full blast. I think Snyder mentioned it in an interview too.
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Vince MechMahon posted:You don't understand how aspect ratio works. He couldn't just magically make the movie he shot in 4:3 be shot in 16:9. They would have had to cut big chunks of the picture off. A really interesting thing they covered in the Half in the Bag review is that you can kinda see that he did shoot for 16:9. They bring up that a lot of shots seem to have way too much space between the top of the characters' heads and the frame, and they show the corresponding 16:9 shots from the Whedon cut, which look more focused.
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Retrowave Joe posted:It does the same in the movie, tho it might’ve been made more clear. When he gets the suit he flies up into space and does his Jesus pose in front of the sun to get the full blast. I think Snyder mentioned it in an interview too. It could've been made clear at all I think you mean because he does the same thing in the red and blue suit in MoS and BvS
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:04 |
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Also he mentioned in an interview that he finds the black suit philosophically to be more representative of humanity because of some book he was reading.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:31 |
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All I'm saying is if we have to have black suit can we at least have it done correctly? No cape, add a mullet.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:35 |
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Phylodox posted:A really interesting thing they covered in the Half in the Bag review is that you can kinda see that he did shoot for 16:9. They bring up that a lot of shots seem to have way too much space between the top of the characters' heads and the frame, and they show the corresponding 16:9 shots from the Whedon cut, which look more focused. It's really obvious throughout the entire movie except the CG heavy scenes, which of course were made specifically for this cut. You don't even need to compare with the Whedon JL to see it.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:37 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:The comment was saying it seemed like this new aspect ratio was cutting things off the side. But this new ratio is the full image. Anything further to the sides was never on camera. The most you can do is crop off the top or bottom to make it widescreen. But then you are cutting things off the top and bottom. quote:Aspect ratio. I get that he wanted it in IMAX but at the point he was recutting it and filming extra scenes he knew it would not be in IMAX, he knew it was going to streaming, and no one has IMAX in their house (if you are a goon who has enough money to have an IMAX room in their home hmu so we can hang out sometime at your mansion and I'll agree about all your opinions about topics of your choosing) so there's no point in a 4:3 ratio in TYOOL 2021 on the small screen. And yes, you can cut the top and bottom off. As I noted, Whedon did that, and as others have said, Snyder would have done it had he made the theatrical cut, and he almost certainly filmed it with that in mind. It's far from a new practice. I'm not hating on 4:3. It didn't bother me at all, I'm just saying that arguing that it's impossible to cut it in 16:9 is a bad argument when it was literally done. I guess it's true you can't "magically" do it, since it's not magic. It's editing and something that plenty of filmmakers do and was common practice when TVs were 4:3. theironjef posted:All I'm saying is if we have to have black suit can we at least have it done correctly? No cape, add a mullet.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:41 |
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I think suits are superfluous. Wouldn't it be grand if Superman was naked, in the flesh? Imagine a fully bare Superman pummeling Steppenwolf into the floor, his sweat flying off his perfect skin, his buttocks flexing with each punch It would be primal, almost bestial
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:49 |
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Take it to ao3
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:50 |
Phylodox posted:A really interesting thing they covered in the Half in the Bag review is that you can kinda see that he did shoot for 16:9. They bring up that a lot of shots seem to have way too much space between the top of the characters' heads and the frame, and they show the corresponding 16:9 shots from the Whedon cut, which look more focused. He for sure protected for it, but this is his version of the movie with no compromise, so what possible reason would he have to change it when he's not being mandated to by the studio? This poo poo drives me crazy because you never hear anyone saying this poo poo about the lighthouse or Grand Budapest hotel, or even Nolan's movies constantly shifting aspect ratio. This movie isn't the Mona Lisa, but would you walk into the Louvre and say "this painting would be better if it was a landscape?"
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 16:54 |
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That depends, how much was cropped out when he reformatted it for pan and scan TV
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 17:03 |
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theironjef posted:All I'm saying is if we have to have black suit can we at least have it done correctly? No cape, add a mullet. Apparently WB shot down the mullet. Bastards.
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Sentinel Red posted:I kid, I kid. Like I said, after 15 minutes I was barely even conscious of it. Yeah ultimately it didn't bother me much after adjusting but just in general it was a weird choice I feel. Guys I have to include everything in my very professional movie reviews Retrowave Joe posted:It does the same in the movie, tho it might’ve been made more clear. When he gets the suit he flies up into space and does his Jesus pose in front of the sun to get the full blast. I think Snyder mentioned it in an interview too. site posted:It could've been made clear at all I think you mean because he does the same thing in the red and blue suit in MoS and BvS Yeah, there's no indication he's exactly low on battery or needs more power or anything, he comes back, smokes the whole league, blasts off at super speed with Lois and just in general seems fine. Like, I don't need a bunch of exposition on what the suit does or why he needs to be repowered (though there certainly could have been, it's not like this movie is anti-exposition) but if you're gonna do it, have it be for a reason because as the film is now, the reason seems to be Superman just opens his closet and thinks "I think I'll try the black today"
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Vince MechMahon posted:He for sure protected for it, but this is his version of the movie with no compromise, so what possible reason would he have to change it when he's not being mandated to by the studio? This poo poo drives me crazy because you never hear anyone saying this poo poo about the lighthouse or Grand Budapest hotel, or even Nolan's movies constantly shifting aspect ratio. I mean...like I said, it is demonstrably better framed in the 16:9 aspect ratio.
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Phylodox posted:I mean...like I said, it is demonstrably better framed in the 16:9 aspect ratio. I totally disagree. It was framed to be tall, and there are a ton of shots that use the full frame. You're just wrong.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 18:32 |
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That's why people are making those kinds of posts about this but not The Lighthouse btw.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 18:44 |
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Yeah you can get a ton of shots that use the full vertical. I've seen one comparison that showed lots of extra "headspace" in the generally talky parts that are your simple close up on character talking, but most of the movie when you zoom in you cut something off vertically.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 18:44 |
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I think the action scenes look great in 4:3, but there’s no real reason for the rest of the movie to be in that aspect ratio. Character scenes especially occasionally run into the old tv problem where people are standing weirdly close together just to fit in frame. It’s fine though, I stopped caring five minutes into the movie and the whole purpose of this exercise was to let Snyder do what he wanted, so
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 18:49 |
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theironjef posted:All I'm saying is if we have to have black suit can we at least have it done correctly? No cape, add a mullet. And the guns. Can't forget the guns. (Fuckin' 90s comics, man, I swear to god...)
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 19:07 |
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The Lighthouse was framed in 4:3 to be old timey and claustrophobic, so it makes sense there, and not so much in a large scale action movie? Not sure why people are confused about why people are complaining about the aspect ratio in one and not the other.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 19:16 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I think the action scenes look great in 4:3, but there’s no real reason for the rest of the movie to be in that aspect ratio. Character scenes especially occasionally run into the old tv problem where people are standing weirdly close together just to fit in frame. Anybody in a room with Wonder Woman, Aquaman, or Bruce Wayne would stand as close to them as possible.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 19:28 |
John Wick of Dogs posted:Anybody in a room with Wonder Woman, Aquaman, or Bruce Wayne would stand as close to them as possible. you know, that's fair. I went back to check because I thought I imagined something and I don't remember anyone bringing it up yet: During the scene where the you see the boomtube hit the amazon temple and it's giving recation shots of random Amazons, there's a blonde teen girl. Is this supposed to be Wonder Girl? Because I thought Diana was the only time there had been a child on Paradise Island.
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 20:37 |
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There are various comics reasons why younger Amazons might be on the island, but for the purposes of the film I assume it's just a random young-looking Amazon. They're supposed to all be the same age besides Diana, but when you do live action, people look older or younger than each other. vv
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# ? Mar 24, 2021 20:47 |
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stratdax posted:The Lighthouse was framed in 4:3 to be old timey and claustrophobic, so it makes sense there, and not so much in a large scale action movie? Not sure why people are confused about why people are complaining about the aspect ratio in one and not the other. The reason is to look old timey and tall.
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For the most part the 4:3 didn't bother me (though I just watched Equinox last night and couldn't help but think that while you could crop JL, there were too many shots in that ultra-low budget horror movie from 1970 that actually utilised the aspect ratio for one to effectively do so), though as I mentioned that scene where Aquaman rescues the fisherman in the storm felt bizarrely claustrophobic for a scene set on the sea. On the other hand, I'm really not sure that the 4:3 added anything to the movie either. Maybe in some of the reshoot scenes, but everything else was shot with the expectation that it'd get cropped, since it is a modern movie after all.
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