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Bust Rodd posted:I think Thor: Ragnarok is my favorite Avengers movie but everyone told me the other Thors were bad so I never bothered. They're not really bad, just very by the numbers. Loki and Odin are relatively enjoyable in all of them though.
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The_Doctor posted:
‘66 has him and Robin (unintentionally of course) kill a bunch of Penguin’s goons with a single punch due to unstable molecules! Only Clooneyman’s hands are bloodless and pure.
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Sentinel Red posted:‘66 has him and Robin (unintentionally of course) kill a bunch of Penguin’s goons with a single punch due to unstable molecules! Yeah but on the flip side Clooney’s Batman is so bad that for years if you wrote to him he would mail you back the $7.50 or whatever the movie cost back then in cash.
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Mar 24, 2021 16:11
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People still tend to talk about Batman Forever more than any of the other ones. Maybe not for the reasons they would like but that still has to count for something.
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Mar 24, 2021 16:14
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Does Kilmer kill anyone besides Two-Face? Because that one's in a gray area.
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Mar 24, 2021 17:05
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live with fruit posted:Does Kilmer kill anyone besides Two-Face? Because that one's in a gray area. The guy exploited Two Face's mental health condition to force him to commit suicide. That's a very black area.
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Mar 24, 2021 17:10
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MiddleOne posted:Thor 2 is the worst of all the modern comic-book movies. Offensively boring and forgettable. Personally I would say Iron Man 3 is weaker.
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stev posted:The guy exploited Two Face's mental health condition to force him to commit suicide. That's a very black area. How could he have known that Dent had such comically bad balance? live with fruit fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Mar 24, 2021 17:14
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The dark world doesn’t really start until Loki shows up, and that’s at least halfway through the movie. I never saw the first Thor, sorry
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Mar 24, 2021 18:18
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Thor 2 is definitely the weakest MCU movie (actually...maybe Iron Man 2) but the Thor & Loki interactions were great and it was the beginning of Loki’s eventual heroic arc in the MCU. You pretty much needed the second half of Thor 2 for Ragnarok to happen. Just everything else was a waste, Jane, Darcy, warriors three, etc.
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Mar 24, 2021 18:31
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Loki, Darcy, and the Looney Tunes portal fight at the end make Dark World way more watchable and good than the credit that it’s given; Malekith being the single most Nothing waste of a villain tends to amplify its flaws, but it’s way drat better as a film than Iron Man 2 is. Iron Man 2 has Elon Musk in it, it will never be surpassed as worst Marvel movie.
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Mar 24, 2021 18:43
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Heads up, there are Sam in his Cap uniform toy spoilers floating around now, so if you’re the type to prefer total surprise then be warned. It’s a good suit though, fairly comics-accurate. Maybe a little too accurate, because the head sock thing that covers everything but his hair and face still looks dumb. The best part though is that the toy is just marketed as “Captain America”. Not “Sam Wilson as Captain America” or “Captain America II” or anything like that. Just straight up “This is Captain America now, deal with it”. It owns.
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Mar 24, 2021 18:45
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I saw Thor TDW for the first time ever a few nights ago. It really was a mindless, nothing movie that's sole purpose was to set up Infinity Stone nonsense. Mildly entertaining, and I can completely understand why Portman didn't want to go further with the Thor franchise if that's the kind of script they would give her. Jane Foster was nothing more than a walking macguffin that entire movie. What a waste of a good actor. If Hemsworth and Hiddleston weren't charismatic as gently caress both by themselves and together, I can't imagine that it would've gotten any goodwill.
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Nikumatic posted:Loki, Darcy, and the Looney Tunes portal fight at the end make Dark World way more watchable and good than the credit that it’s given; Malekith being the single most Nothing waste of a villain tends to amplify its flaws, but it’s way drat better as a film than Iron Man 2 is. The Musk thing indeed taints the movie and is embarrassingly out of place having recently rewatched, but Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer means it cannot possibly be the worst Marvel movie.
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Mar 24, 2021 19:22
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Doctor Nutt posted:The Musk thing indeed taints the movie and is embarrassingly out of place having recently rewatched, but Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer means it cannot possibly be the worst Marvel movie. I've only seen 2 once but all I remember is Rockwell dancing and arguing with Mickey Rourke about birds, and I'm like "why's everyone so down on it?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fPFm5io0vw
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Mar 24, 2021 19:44
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GigaPeon posted:I've only seen 2 once but all I remember is Rockwell dancing and arguing with Mickey Rourke about birds, and I'm like "why's everyone so down on it?" God whatever they can do to get Sam Rockwell back for more Justin Hammer, they just need to do it. Could see him worked into a Damage Control show pretty easily. Were they still developing something like that or was it completely cancelled?
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Mar 24, 2021 19:47
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Doctor Nutt posted:God whatever they can do to get Sam Rockwell back for more Justin Hammer, they just need to do it. Could see him worked into a Damage Control show pretty easily. Were they still developing something like that or was it completely cancelled? I feel like that got tossed in the same bin as "Bobbi and Hunter's Total Not Burn Notice".
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Mar 24, 2021 19:49
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ShakeZula posted:I've rewatched the first one many times, but whenever I do I tend to skip all the Asgard stuff. Thor as a fish-out-of-water on Earth is excellent. I could watch Chris Hemsworth smashing glasses on the floor to request more to drink and/or walking into a pet store to demand a horse all day long. Plus Jane and the gang accidentally running him over more than once was awesome. Hell, I loved the truck rally around the Hammer because that poo poo would absolutely happen in America. And even the Asgard scenes weren't bad in a hammy Shakespeare kind of way. With Thor 2 the only "goodish" parts were Loki finally being an antihero, Jane in Asgard and the London stuff. Thor 3 was awesome, hilarious and hilariously awesome all the way through. Plus it gets ultimate bonus points for being the Thor movie that finally used Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song."
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Mar 24, 2021 20:17
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I liked Mickey Rourke in Iron Man 2, his whole thing was very compelling, teasing that Howard Stark was not squeaky clean. Wish they had been ballsy enough to stick with it and play with shades of antiheroism and sins of the father.
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Doctor Nutt posted:The Musk thing indeed taints the movie and is embarrassingly out of place having recently rewatched, but Sam Rockwell as Justin Hammer means it cannot possibly be the worst Marvel movie. Yeah, it’s the real Schroedinger’s Worst. At the very least Hammer showed up briefly in Hail to the King and I’ll pretty much riot if he’s not in Armor Wars (unless Rockwell demurs if offered). Once we get Hammer relinquished from IM2 exclusivity I will become only more entrenched and belligerent on this stance.
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Mar 24, 2021 21:01
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I like the part in Thor where Hawkeye was obviously written/filmed at a later date and awkwardly cut into the scene where Thor can't lift the hammer.
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Mar 24, 2021 21:10
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Firebert posted:Thor 2 is definitely the weakest MCU movie (actually...maybe Iron Man 2) but the Thor & Loki interactions were great and it was the beginning of Loki’s eventual heroic arc in the MCU. You pretty much needed the second half of Thor 2 for Ragnarok to happen. Just everything else was a waste, Jane, Darcy, warriors three, etc. Loved how Ragnarok just kills them instantly with like no fanfare.
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Mar 24, 2021 21:40
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Heads up, there are Sam in his Cap uniform toy spoilers floating around now, so if you’re the type to prefer total surprise then be warned. It saddens me that I can predict with a high likelyhood of accuracy there's gonna be a vocal minority very upset about a black man being Captain America
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RYYSZLA posted:It saddens me that I can predict with a high likelyhood of accuracy there's gonna be a vocal minority very upset about a black man being Captain America And why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:And why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles. I don't think marvel want that to happen though, is the thing. I've already seen too many reddit prime hottakes on the subject, I suppose
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MiddleOne posted:Thor 2 is the worst of all the modern comic-book movies. Offensively boring and forgettable. Worst mcu movie? Yeah. Worst comic book movie? Hell no! In the last decade alone we've had Green lantern, justice league (non snyder cut), ww84, ASM2, bloodshot, the hellboy reboot, RIPD, x-men apocalypse and dark phoenix, the wolverine, mib 3 and international, and worst of all Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice which could contend for one of the worst Hollywood botch jobs of all time. Thor 2 is citizen kane compared to some of that crap.
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My extremely Dark Horse take is that Logan also sucks and was an extremely bad movie but all anyone remembers is BERZERKER RAGE in the last five seconds
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Mar 24, 2021 22:50
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Bust Rodd posted:My extremely Dark Horse take is that Logan also sucks and was an extremely bad movie but all anyone remembers is BERZERKER RAGE in the last five seconds of the movie I kind of liked Logan but I also felt like it was a bad way for Patrick Stewart's Xavier to go out? Such a dark depressing future, it didn't sit well with me as a proper "canon" X-men title.
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Geo Fixer posted:Worst mcu movie? Yeah. Worst comic book movie? Hell no! In the last decade alone we've had Green lantern, justice league (non snyder cut), ww84, ASM2, bloodshot, the hellboy reboot, RIPD, x-men apocalypse and dark phoenix, the wolverine, mib 3 and international, and worst of all Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice which could contend for one of the worst Hollywood botch jobs of all time. Thor 2 is citizen kane compared to some of that crap. that final comparison is absolutely apt, although there's a lot of movies that are Citizen Kane compared to RIPD, what a world we live in
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Doctor Nutt posted:God whatever they can do to get Sam Rockwell back for more Justin Hammer, they just need to do it. They really do. I genuinely don't care how or in what form. Have him hassling Spider-Man with mindless mech goons? I'm there. Have his janky-rear end mechs hassle Falcon? I'm there. Have him take over the Forge with Peter Dinklage and bother Thor with custom battlesuits for his goons? gently caress yes. Put him with William Hurt on Thunderbolts where he acts as their bootleg Tony Stark arming everyone? Hell yeah man. loving anything just loving do it.
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Thor 2 set up a lot of what made Thor 3 so good, including the seeds of Asgardian Imperialism and that Odin was not nearly as good as dude as he seemed and had sins his sons would have to pay for. I wish it had done a better job with that part.
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Bust Rodd posted:My extremely Dark Horse take is that Logan also sucks and was an extremely bad movie but all anyone remembers is BERZERKER RAGE in the last five seconds My other hot take is that while Thor 3's character and plot work is absolutely stunning, the humor sucks noodles and I've genuinely eaten less ham at a Southern Thanksgiving.
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Doctor Nutt posted:I kind of liked Logan but I also felt like it was a bad way for Patrick Stewart's Xavier to go out? Such a dark depressing future, it didn't sit well with me as a proper "canon" X-men title. have any of the xmen titles really had happy endings
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Nikumatic posted:Loki, Darcy, and the Looney Tunes portal fight at the end make Dark World way more watchable and good than the credit that it’s given; Malekith being the single most Nothing waste of a villain tends to amplify its flaws, but it’s way drat better as a film than Iron Man 2 is. TDW is better than IM2 by virtue of being a functional narrative where you can actually tell what the main thrust of the plot is halfway through the film. also by virtue of having an actual screenplay that the actors spoke lines from on set instead of having them wander around the set ad-libbing in character and attempting to make a movie out of that in the edit room shame about Malekith, though, gotta be the single most underwritten villain in a franchise full of underwritten villains. Eccleston's screentime was cut down to just about the bare minimum necessary for the plot to work; I'm not sure he and Thor even have a conversation before the climax
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Azhais posted:have any of the xmen titles really had happy endings The post credits ending of Dark Phoenix when we realized they weren't going to make more of these
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Geo Fixer posted:Worst mcu movie? Yeah. Worst comic book movie? Hell no! In the last decade alone we've had Green lantern, justice league (non snyder cut), ww84, ASM2, bloodshot, the hellboy reboot, RIPD, x-men apocalypse and dark phoenix, the wolverine, mib 3 and international, and worst of all Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice which could contend for one of the worst Hollywood botch jobs of all time. Thor 2 is citizen kane compared to some of that crap. MIB3 was kinda alright, considerably better than the second one at least. The Wolverine had some great moments too, even if it suffered from a lovely ending. Also whats the deal with people hating Iron Man 3? Are people still upset about the whole Mandarin thing?
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SCheeseman posted:Also whats the deal with people hating Iron Man 3? Are people still upset about the whole Mandarin thing?
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Sanguinia posted:Thor 2 set up a lot of what made Thor 3 so good, including the seeds of Asgardian Imperialism and that Odin was not nearly as good as dude as he seemed and had sins his sons would have to pay for. I wish it had done a better job with that part. I think that's a lot of the effectiveness of the MCU. Even the bad/mediocre entries tend to set up characters and stuff for the better films so none of it feels fully perfunctory or skippable if you're invested. I think that might be why Iron Man 3 is so polarizing, because it not only doesn't really set anything up going forward but is basically constructed as a finale for the trilogy/character. So like you either dig it on its own merits or don't but there's not that linky feeling the rest of the films have.
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It's one of the rare MCU movies that felt autuerish. It's a very Shane Black movie, right down to the Christmas setting.
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STAC Goat posted:I think that's a lot of the effectiveness of the MCU. Even the bad/mediocre entries tend to set up characters and stuff for the better films so none of it feels fully perfunctory or skippable if you're invested. IM3, and The Incredible Hulk kind of, is the only movie in the MCU you can skip and not lose anything necessary.
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