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Dat Sisko goatee tho
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Mar 24, 2021 23:39
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TIL that for the Voyager Season 3 episode 'Flashback', the show's production team rebuilt the Excelsior bridge set in two weeks when it took the team that worked on ST VI 12 weeks to complete.
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Mar 25, 2021 01:34
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FlamingLiberal posted:TIL that for the Voyager Season 3 episode 'Flashback', the show's production team rebuilt the Excelsior bridge set in two weeks when it took the team that worked on ST VI 12 weeks to complete. Say what you will about the writing and directing quality of the show from time to time, but the Voyager production team was incredible at how at how fast they worked from episode to episode and the quality of the material they put out. And they had to constantly build a lot of that poo poo from scratch too. For comparison, I think the USS Dauntless and the Enterprise-J had roughly the same amount of design turnaround time, and just look at the disparity in quality between the two ships on every level.
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Mar 25, 2021 02:38
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Voyager is a bunch of functioning parts that never make a whole. Also I bet burnout wasn't nearly as bad for production design staff as it was for the writers. The longer they worked at it, the better they got.
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Mar 25, 2021 02:41
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I believe Flashback also benefited because, while it was a third-season episode, it was produced during the tail end of the second season, when the production had some extra money to play with, so it wasn't as much of an issue to have the construction crew work late and on weekends to get the Excelsior bridge done on time.
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Mar 25, 2021 02:58
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a neat cape posted:So I just watched The Die is Cast on DS9. The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves! this is where ds9 really starts kicking it up a notch e: explorers also rules
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https://twitter.com/hyenasandgin/status/1374834096938098690?s=19
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Timby posted:I believe Flashback also benefited because, while it was a third-season episode, it was produced during the tail end of the second season, when the production had some extra money to play with, so it wasn't as much of an issue to have the construction crew work late and on weekends to get the Excelsior bridge done on time.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes you're correct, it was one of like 3-4 Season 2 episodes that got bumped to Season 3 Groovy, I thought it was part of that batch. That always struck me as a strange way to do budgeting (as I recall they filmed extra episodes in both seasons 1 and 2 with the plan of airing them as part of the following season; I can't recall if they did that with the 3rd into the 4th but I don't believe so because they went stupidly over-budget on some Season 3 episodes like Future's End and Scorpion), but I mean, hey, if it meant Flashback had some extra cash to use and they wouldn't have had that money if it were part of the season 3 filming schedule, then more power to 'em.
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Mar 25, 2021 05:14
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I'm also wondering if things were helped out by the production of Star Trek:Borg, the FMV game that had you spend a fair chunk of time on a TNG-era Excelsior bridge. Memory Alpha has no details on the production or development of the game, but it was released commercially in early November 1996 to coincide with FC and "Flashback" was being shot in late March of the same year, so the bridge may have been built for one project then modified and used for the other one. If memory serves, the game was mostly reused Voyager sets with the bridge and a larger Jeffries tube set being made specifically for the game.
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Marshal Radisic posted:I'm also wondering if things were helped out by the production of Star Trek:Borg, the FMV game that had you spend a fair chunk of time on a TNG-era Excelsior bridge. Memory Alpha has no details on the production or development of the game, but it was released commercially in early November 1996 to coincide with FC and "Flashback" was being shot in late March of the same year, so the bridge may have been built for one project then modified and used for the other one. If memory serves, the game was mostly reused Voyager sets with the bridge and a larger Jeffries tube set being made specifically for the game. Borg was filmed while Voyager was on hiatus in 1996, as several of its sets were being used as Enterprise-E interiors (I think it's Borg in which you see just how cramped some of Voyager's sets are, like engineering, sickbay and the transporter bay all blending into one another, there are a couple of shots in which you accidentally see the other areas because they didn't cover it up when blocking the scene). They did get to use the Flashback Excelsior bridge for the game, though, before the set was struck. I imagine if the Excelsior set hadn't been constructed for the episode, they would have just used Voyager's bridge in the game, since the whole production was pretty compressed. (Those Simon & Schuster games were made for almost no budget at all. I think they shot two and a half hours of footage for Borg over the span of something like six days, maybe five.) Timby fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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Mar 25, 2021 06:24
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Star Trek: Borg kind of smells of "90% of our budget went towards either John DeLancie or Borg effect makeup" and basically nothing else.
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Mar 25, 2021 06:34
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StashAugustine posted:The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves! he actually says "dear tain". but tain is basically caesar in those episodes so its a funny quote to drop there which i guess does sell garak not quite getting the point of the play edit: ive said it a few times but i really like how it comes full circle to the play and how garak is completely eating his words at the end of the episode
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Mar 25, 2021 06:38
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nine-gear crow posted:Star Trek: Borg kind of smells of "90% of our budget went towards either John DeLancie or Borg effect makeup" and basically nothing else. Pretty much. They paid de Lancie his day rate, which chewed up most of their money right then and there, and they had unfettered access to the TNG-era Borg costumes and set dressings because First Contact had the new costumes made and those were being used. The Borg game also re-used the same four or five actors for pretty much every Borg drone, just swapping around the head and arm pieces (there's a reason most of the Borg you see in the game are from a very far distance, as they didn't have the time or money to do hero-level makeup outside of a few exceptions, like the Borg on the bridge at the beginning and the one you wrestle with in the Jefferies tube).
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I found it, the ugliest fanart ship https://www.deviantart.com/lonesome--crow/art/Fire-all-Phasers-270073844
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Mar 25, 2021 14:32
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More like USS Ulcer
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Was the Voyager flashback Excelsior the one that had random office chairs as seats?
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8one6 posted:I found it, the ugliest fanart ship And people give STO's designs crap.
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8one6 posted:I found it, the ugliest fanart ship "What we got back didn't live long. Fortunately."
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Mar 25, 2021 15:31
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 USS Deal With It
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The U.S.S. Homer.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Was the Voyager flashback Excelsior the one that had random office chairs as seats? Don’t know if it was in the episode itself, but the stuff for Star Trek: Borg shot on the bridge set had literal Office Depot swivel chairs at each console yes. And the first person POV camera made it all the more obvious because they couldn’t hide it through cinematography and scene blocking like the could in an actual episode.
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Mar 25, 2021 18:33
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It'd look better with a consistent perspective
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They also turned the Borg and Klingon FMV games into audio dramas, so they were definitely trying to wring as much blood as they could from those particular stones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wju0bZQDrFk
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Oh hey Sisko is a captain now. Neat. I just started season 4
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Yeah I think they finally realized that he was pretty much a captain in all but name, hell he has more responsibilities than Picard.
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Also it was just a bit problematic that the black guy was still a commander after 3 years
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Aren’t leaders of space stations usually not captains? I think that’s the case for military ports or shipyards in the US Navy. Did they only make him a captain when he got the Defiant to command?
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Nitrousoxide posted:Aren’t leaders of space stations usually not captains? I think that’s the case for military ports or shipyards in the US Navy.
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Riker's still a commander by Nemesis. That's 15 years without a promotion, c'mon Will.
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Yeah, I found it pretty racist that he wasn't made a captain, but really, Sisko is the most effective capitan, and him dressing down picard was one of the key moments of DS9.
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Animal-Mother posted:Riker's still a commander by Nemesis. That's 15 years without a promotion, c'mon Will. Riker seemingly has little ambition for captaincy. There’s one or two episodes in the show where it comes up that people think he should be moving on but he’s like “nah I’m good”
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Riker just wants to bone and play his bone. Can’t fault a man for that.
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He's an admiral later on though I think?
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So uh. The Visitor. I'm not crying.
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Axe-man posted:Yeah, I found it pretty racist that he wasn't made a captain, but really, Sisko is the most effective capitan, and him dressing down picard was one of the key moments of DS9. He wasn't in command of a starship, so it seems pretty clear they were trying to draw a distinction in the ranks. There's also the matter of his total command. Sisko only had about 50 people under him, in his direct command. It was a task for a more junior senior officer.
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Axe-man posted:The only thing i want to know from Picard, is if Riker ever got over his thing... with chairs. I know from the "everything great about" video that this is called the Riker manoeuvre. I was not ready for the reverse Riker manoeuvre.
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a neat cape posted:So uh. The Visitor. It's ok we're all crying. e: Andrew Robinson's daughter looks like him around the eyes and it distracts me every time but not enough to stop the tears
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Animal-Mother posted:Riker's still a commander by Nemesis. That's 15 years without a promotion, c'mon Will. He was offered like 4-5 commands before he finally took the Titan
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