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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaE9pQ3MuIk

The highlight is at a minute and a quarter.

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GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I'm curious what Evergreen's liability is here.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

GD_American posted:

I'm curious what Evergreen's liability is here.

i would guess not as much as might be assumed, their insurance company on the other hand....

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
I saw a thing that said that a container ship the size of the Ever Given (which is, as has been made clear, near the maximum size for the canal) pays around $700,000 in transit fees to use the canal. And the canal normally transits about 50 ships per day. And the canal has been closed so far for just under four days.

So an upper bound at $140 million and rising, just in lost canal usage fees?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Cthulu Carl posted:

In a bizarre turn of events, the physics glitches and Ever Given spins on all axes at once, twists, contorts, writhes, then settles in a new position - stuck vertically.

As it glitches off into the upper atmosphere

https://youtu.be/KF32DRg9opA

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Platystemon posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaE9pQ3MuIk

The highlight is at a minute and a quarter.

not seeing a whole lot of earpro there

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Sagebrush posted:

I saw a thing that said that a container ship the size of the Ever Given (which is, as has been made clear, near the maximum size for the canal) pays around $700,000 in transit fees to use the canal. And the canal normally transits about 50 ships per day. And the canal has been closed so far for just under four days.

So an upper bound at $140 million and rising, just in lost canal usage fees?
https://twitter.com/yicaibao/status/1375259099437228033

It's amazingly awesome.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


What do they do in the porno movies where people get stuck? Maybe there are some useful pointers in there re: getting them unstuck again

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


aphid_licker posted:

What do they do in the porno movies where people get stuck? Maybe there are some useful pointers in there re: getting them unstuck again

They just need to find the Ever Given’s stepshipster

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



aphid_licker posted:

What do they do in the porno movies where people get stuck? Maybe there are some useful pointers in there re: getting them unstuck again

:nws: https://i.imgur.com/BbwMVoe.png :nws:

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Cthulu Carl posted:

In a bizarre turn of events, the physics glitches and Ever Given spins on all axes at once, twists, contorts, writhes, then settles in a new position - stuck vertically.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Bad Munki posted:

They just need to find the Ever Given’s stepshipster

Oh hey, I actually saw this yesterday. Meet the Ever Liven.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

what are you doing back there step-ship?

koshmar
Oct 22, 2009

i'm not here

this isn't happening
All they need is a good boy.

https://twitter.com/buitengebieden_/status/1375129559738245122?s=20

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Why has no one thought of sending in the Russians?

https://twitter.com/kittynouveau/status/1375171430887866371?s=20

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Cthulu Carl posted:

In a bizarre turn of events, the physics glitches and Ever Given spins on all axes at once, twists, contorts, writhes, then settles in a new position - stuck vertically.

Like Dirk Gently’s couch.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable


Walk of Life is playing in my head as the camera zooms out.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Antigravitas posted:

Actually, if they lengthen the ships even more, their angle of impact will necessarily be very shallow and it's harder to get stuck :eng101:

Just make a ship that extends from Shanghai to Rotterdam.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Cthulu Carl posted:

In a bizarre turn of events, the physics glitches and Ever Given spins on all axes at once, twists, contorts, writhes, then settles in a new position - stuck vertically.

If videogame speed runs have taught me anything it's that the Ever Given is currently building up insane amounts of momentum and will hurl itself through space the second it's dislodged.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Bad Munki posted:

As it glitches off into the upper atmosphere

https://youtu.be/KF32DRg9opA

For a moment I thought you were talking not about potential physics glitches but about how much Evergreen/Evergreen's insurance is liable for over time.

Because I'm pretty sure that chart is just rocketing off into the stratosphere.


The best part of the Battlefield games is they NEVER stopped having crazy glitches like this, to the point the community expects them.

Also good thing the Evergreen isn't an airship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfipmRWAuJI

Alkydere fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Mar 26, 2021

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Good thing it's not a bethesda ship or else the containers would randomly explode and anyone that touched the ship would die

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
If bethesda made ships they would just clip through the planet and get stuck halfway between map layers a digital stones' throw from its' receiving port. Or 16 super mutants would spawn on the deck and start throwing containers at deck hands.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Azhais posted:

Good thing it's not a bethesda ship or else the containers would randomly explode and anyone that touched the ship would die

Nah, the Bethesda ship would be completely fine until the crane pulled the first container off. Then all of the containers would start to jiggle around and then explode outwards as their physics are suddenly activated.

Also someone would have modded boobs everywhere.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I know it's already been mentioned, but would offloading the cargo help? And, for that matter, is it even possible to offload the cargo? Those container ships have specialized cranes and gantrys for loading, right, so could they even unload if they needed to?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I imagine dropping some containers into the canal would make a bad situation a fair bit worse. Considering the specialised equipment at ports they use to load and unload these ships isn't available, they probably considered and rejected the idea already.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Aha, maybe unloading the containers is where the rockets could come in!

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

News is saying the salvage company might unload the cargo to make it easier to refloat. No idea how they'd do that where they're at, but it's probably worth keeping in mind the difference between unloading a ship and unloading a ship without damaging the poo poo its carrying.

Not saying they'd drop that poo poo into the canal and just let it float away or anything, but at this point, if it meant getting the ship refloated and then having a shitload of cleanup, I bet they'd do it straight away.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
There are a little under ten thousand containers on that ship.

A decent operating rate for a permanent and purpose‐built crane is thirty movements per hour. That’s fifteen containers unloaded, because the empty return trip counts as a movement.

If they could maintain that pace with a fleet of helicopters operating around the clock, with two teams operating simultaneously on the far ends of the ship, it would still take two weeks to unload the thing. The lightest containers are on top, so disproportionately little progress would be made at first, and even the Mi-26, “the largest and most powerful helicopter to have gone into serial production” cannot lift the heaviest of containers.

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!
This is how global shipping is done now.

One boat loads it's containers onto the Ever Given.
On the other side, another boat loads them off, and continues to the destination.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Platystemon posted:

There are a little under ten thousand containers on that ship.

A decent operating rate for a permanent and purpose‐built crane is thirty movements per hour. That’s fifteen containers unloaded, because the empty return trip counts as a movement.

If they could maintain that pace with a fleet of helicopters operating around the clock, with two teams operating simultaneously on the far ends of the ship, it would still take two weeks to unload the thing. The lightest containers are on top, so disproportionately little progress would be made at first, and even the Mi-26, “the largest and most powerful helicopter to have gone into serial production” cannot lift the heaviest of containers.

So it would normally take a month to unload it when it gets to the port?

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

You'd have multiple cranes working on a ship.



For a little extra scale, a 40' shipping container is 320 sqft. by 8.5 tall.

nomad2020 fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Mar 26, 2021

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Have they tried just loading an earlier save?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Cojawfee posted:

Have they tried just loading an earlier save?

Please don't, I've done some cool stuff since Tuesday

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

haveblue posted:

Please don't, I've done some cool stuff since Tuesday

poo poo you're right. Tuesday and Wednesday are my most busy days of the week, I'd rather not have to deal with doing them again.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

https://twitter.com/vincelavecchia/status/1375297806307532800

Elon's space garbage breaking up over the PNW. I'm told this was a Falcon upper stage that failed a month back.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Cojawfee posted:

So it would normally take a month to unload it when it gets to the port?

Yeah because boat is literally bigger than the empire state building.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Oh poo poo now they’ve got the Empire State Building stuck in there too? Did they throw it at the Ever Given hoping to knock it loose? Classic kite in a tree situation here :negative:

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


Batterypowered7 posted:

If videogame speed runs have taught me anything it's that the Ever Given is currently building up insane amounts of momentum and will hurl itself through space the second it's dislodged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKa18jNnsuM&t=49s

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CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
If they don't nuke the ship then I will accept, as a consolation prize, them using a gigaton of thermonuclear weapons to blast a new canal all the way through the Negev desert.

https://twitter.com/wellerstein/status/963433378098884608

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