Prism Mirror Lens posted:

If you came away from the game thinking “hmm Joyce nice and Evrart mean, therefore politics don’t real” then you got it completely backwards from how I got it. That’s the Thatcher-esque take: there is no such thing as politics, only individual men and women.

Captain Oblivious posted:

The personal is political. There is no such thing as apolitical.

Smiling Knight posted:

Re: Rene's race. It's easy to miss in a huge dialogue tree, but Dros calls Rene a "race traitor," and also comments that the "kipt" neighborhoods held out the longest against the Moralists. So yeah, Rene is black.

Sekenr posted:

Do you have more of huge DE art? Displate doesn't ship to my country I have to make do

litany of gulps posted:

Man, I mean Rene dying is about as small a plot point as I can think of, given the utter insignificance of his role in the story. If you're firing up a new old game and skipping to page THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY of discussion about it on the forums, maybe there's some personal responsibility there if you get spoiled.

litany of gulps posted:

Man, I mean Rene dying is about as small a plot point as I can think of, given the utter insignificance of his role in the story. If you're firing up a new old game and skipping to page THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY of discussion about it on the forums, maybe there's some personal responsibility there if you get spoiled.

Desdinova posted:

Any word on the translation of the book DE is based on? Really looking forward to more in depth discussion of the Pale.

World War Mammories posted:

yet another betrayal of me by the perfidious robert kurvitz

World War Mammories posted:

not for the past year or so. they originally planned to release an english translation before the end of 2020, but I suppose the final cut took precedence. yet another betrayal of me by the perfidious robert kurvitz

No Mods No Masters posted:

Robert had to shelf the book translation process while he searched out the best seamstress in all of estonia to make his luxury jackets. It's tough but I can't disagree with the results

dead gay comedy forums posted:

pics or didn't happen, for I must queerly evaluate

Wrr posted:

It is a small plot point, sure, but I think much of its emotional impact comes from being such a small moment in the grand scheme of things. The guy is basically a living part of the landscape of the neighborhood. He is written in such a way that made me feel like he was always there, and will "always" be there. Rene not being in the park feels as unthinkable as the Whirling-in-Rags suddenly not being there. Of course they could be removed from the neighborhood at any moment, even mountains go away eventually, but is still just as shocking and impactful. The impact is supported by just how little fanfare is dedicated to it; it just happens, and while not hidden, it is not loudly announced. His absences from the space, and Gaston's reaction, feels massive however.

i am a moron posted:

That has nothing to do with what you view as the primary motifs of the game, nice post though?

No Mods No Masters posted:

https://atelier.zaumstudio.com/

Wrr posted:

Deeply considering using the pictures from their photoshoot to provide to a seamstress of my own.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

ZA/UM's next game "actually capitalism is fuckin' GREAT"

Night10194 posted:

I admit if I had the money on hand I would have been dearly tempted by Kim's jacket.

Claes Oldenburger posted:

Absolutely. The jackets looks great, but also seem to made made quite well.

There was a big discussion in the discord about these jackets and the seemingly strong switch from a group of hard left socialists to now be selling $400 (euro? I didn't catch the price before they sold out) clothing items. I assume the discord is full of kids so I tried my best to navigate the "Why aren't the jackets cheaper!!1!" and "I'd buy a jacket if I was a rich capitalist."

We have become so conditioned by massive quantities of cheap, poorly made, clothing. To do a run, like this, of 15 jackets requires at least one person to design, and maybe that same person to hand sew these materials together. Maybe the sewing team is different, maybe it's a local sewing company, but the fact of the matter is that there are at least one but probably a few people, that should be getting paid fair wages to make these jackets.

They could have designed a cheap, easy to make, flimsy orange bomber jacket and gotten them made by what is barely considered a worker and not a slave. They could have made thousands of these jackets and sold them for $100, putting cents into the workers pockets and thousands of dollars into theirs. Instead, they (presumably ofc) paid a person to design a nice coat in the style of the game, and a few people to hand sew what seem to be not flimsy, quality materials, into a nice jacket that will stand up to wear and not end up at a value village in the saddest towns of the american midwest.

Assuming it's 400 euros, at 15 jackets they made a whole total of 6,000. Wow! The capitalist dream! I'm very biased because I work in a craft related profession, but to see them make an item in a low quantity and high quality, that probably closer reflects the price of the true cost of the item makes me really happy. I like to think that they will be cherished by the wearer and not thrown out when they decide they don't like the VA in the final cut.

Anyways that's my capitalism and jackets rant, I wish I could get one but they're outside of my price range for a jacket and that's okay.

E:FB lol

Claes Oldenburger posted:

They could have designed a cheap, easy to make, flimsy orange bomber jacket and gotten them made by what is barely considered a worker and not a slave. They could have made thousands of these jackets and sold them for $100, putting cents into the workers pockets and thousands of dollars into theirs. Instead, they (presumably ofc) paid a person to design a nice coat in the style of the game, and a few people to hand sew what seem to be not flimsy, quality materials, into a nice jacket that will stand up to wear and not end up at a value village in the saddest towns of the american midwest.

AceOfFlames posted:

Never forget

Animal-Mother posted:

You can tell Kim's a moralist because when he sees, with his binoclard eyes, that the symbol of hope is real, his first reaction is "Be careful, it might be dangerous." A revolution to free the working class forever? Now now, people might get hurt. Kim is a Sunday Friend.

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Kim photographs the cryptid Kim is the necessary bridge between the hope Harry discovers and the rest of the world.

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Kim photographs the cryptid Kim is the necessary bridge between the hope Harry discovers and the rest of the world.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

This person has played through the game at least 4 times and understands so little of anything being said. It's unironically great

i am a moron posted:

What’s unironically great is the number of people in this thread unable to process the game for the postmodern masterpiece it really is and not an attempt to turn the narrative of their poli sci 101 paper on the communist manifesto into a game

i am a moron posted:

What’s unironically great is the number of people in this thread unable to process the game for the postmodern masterpiece it really is and not an attempt to turn the narrative of their poli sci 101 paper on the communist manifesto into a game

ZeeBoi posted:

Claes Oldenburger posted:

Anyways that's my capitalism and jackets rant, I wish I could get one but they're outside of my price range for a jacket and that's okay.

AceOfFlames posted:

450 Euros for a bespoke jacket made by an expert seamstress seems like a bit of a bargain, considering the Estonian Minimum wage is only slightly lower than that of Portugal, which is slowly but surely becoming the European luxury/"ethical" luxury clothes manufacturer of choice for anyone who cannot afford France/Italy/London levels of bespoke.