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BrigadierSensible posted:In Chengdu however, I lived outside the 3rd ring road, (I think? It might have been the 2nd.), so to get into town was a pain in the arse that required squeezing myself on to 3 different busses that were generally packed to bursting. And getting home was an expensive 30 minute cab ride. Which was poo poo. Chengdu's a lot better now, the subway is crazy extensive and pretty good. But once you get a bit past the third ring to the new districts it turns into those car-focused nightmares. Like, sure, there are subway stations out there but walking around a single block can take 20 minutes, you're sprinting across 16 lane roads, and there's no street life because there can't be. It's unfortunate they're willing to spend to put in pretty good public transit but then are loving up the urban design so much the transit is mostly useless once you get out of the old city.
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Grand Fromage posted:Chengdu's a lot better now, the subway is crazy extensive and pretty good. But once you get a bit past the third ring to the new districts it turns into those car-focused nightmares. Like, sure, there are subway stations out there but walking around a single block can take 20 minutes, you're sprinting across 16 lane roads, and there's no street life because there can't be. It's unfortunate they're willing to spend to put in pretty good public transit but then are loving up the urban design so much the transit is mostly useless once you get out of the old city. Back when I lived in Chengdu, there was only 1 subway line. This was back in 2013-14.
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Grand Fromage posted:It's very funny how they've long since abandoned denying it and are now just comparing to assorted other human rights atrocities throughout history and saying "what's the difference?????" China 2018: "Camps? What camps?" China 2019: "Those aren't camps, they're re-educational and training facilities." China 2020: "Ok ok, they're camps, but they're not really that bad. Look at these smiling inmates!" China 2021: "Every country gets 1 free genocide, how dare the US/Australia/EU criticize us when they got to destroy their indigenous/Jewish populations and we didn't say anything???"
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BrigadierSensible posted:Back when I lived in Chengdu, there was only 1 subway line. This was back in 2013-14. Yeah, when I moved there it had two. When I left it had uh... seven, I think? And there's been at least six new lines/line extensions since, plus a light rail. And the second ring road BRT. I got no complaints about public transit in China except people rushing the doors. You could get anywhere in Chengdu in a reasonable timeframe for not much money. Cars are for losers. E:  It's a good network. Not sure I'd want to be in there during an earthquake, but hey. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah, when I moved there it had two. When I left it had uh... seven, I think? And there's been at least six new lines/line extensions since, plus a light rail. And the second ring road BRT. This was one of my biggest bugbears in all my time in China. A bus is packed to capacity, and it stops at a station. Several old ladies, and children crammed on the buss want to get out at this stop, so they force their way to the doors. Only to be met by an army of people pushing scratching and screaming their way in with no regard for the people already on the bus nor the people trying to get out. For fucks sake, let people off first, then get in yourself. It's easier and takes less time than when everybody pushes through everyone else. It was the same with queues. A grandmother and her grandson are at the counter buying their groceries at the supermarket. 5 Middle aged men will push them over and then all try to buy their cigarettes from the cashier who hasn't even finished ringing up the old ladies' purchases. Never mind me, and 2 others waiting behind her. I swear I saw something similar to this happen at the dispensing window at a hospital pharmacy in Chengdu. For fucks sake, wait your god-damned turn.
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Fortunately it's Sichuan so everyone was like half my size, and physics worked in my favor when I walked off the bus/subway. Wouldn't work so well in northern China. Best thing with buses was when two of the same number would pull up at the same time. Everybody goes to fight and shove their way onto the packed bus in front while I stroll onto the empty one behind it.
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Weka posted:Dang now I want to do a car up as a foreign police car. From somewhere less threatening though. Stazi?
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Honestly feel embarrassed for the state media sometimes. They're so bad at this.
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 my 'not forcing uighurs to pick cotton' t-shirt is raising a lot of questions answered by my shirt
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Literally the same tactics Southern slave owners used when confronted by abolitionists. "Well, look at these slaves smiling! They love picking cotton! The escapees reporting our horrifying abuses are just lying ingrates!" Also notable that China managed to hold onto the institution of slavery until loving 1909. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Pharohman777 posted:
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Imagine how little understanding you'd have to have of your audience to think that "your country was built on slavery!" is some sort of shocking own instead of a well known horrific part of history, that you learned about extensively in school. Like I don't think even the chuddiest of chuds denies slavery happened, whatever horrible racist poo poo they think about it.
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Look, slavery has been everywhere. China is being the most progressive country in the world by being the first to officially bring it back.
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Fojar38 posted:I....I think North Korea might be better at diplomacy than the PRC right now At least when they know something's about to blow up, they shoot it into the Sea of Japan first.
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as a HKer I can only bitter laugh man it's not too late to learn about the true faces of CCP China. we were there, and Taiwan is still standin there
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BrigadierSensible posted:I reckon this is exactly like the War Crime pic they did with the Australian war crimes. It is not the same because that was hilarious.
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It was a goon in this thread that said “Trying to rule a world they refuse to understand”
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K8.0 posted:Look, slavery has been everywhere. China is being the most progressive country in the world by being the first to officially bring it back. They’re behind all of the emeratis, saudis, etc.
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Mr. Nice! posted:They’re behind all of the emeratis, saudis, etc. quote:Slavery persists in Mauritania, despite it being outlawed.[90] It is the result of a historical caste system, resulting in descent-based slavery.[90][91] Those enslaved are darker-skinned Haratin, with their owners being lighter-skinned Moors.[91] Mauritania has them beat
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K8.0 posted:Look, slavery has been everywhere. China is being the most progressive country in the world by being the first to officially bring it back. Look, village peasants are worth about as much as empty space in the Sea of Japan, I don't see why people keep bringing it up as if it's some kind of crime. Also unrelated, but I'll always laugh at the massive thousand mile long artificial forest the PRC built. Who needs biodiversity, and gently caress the groundwater, gonna plant a fuckton of one species of trees and stop the desert.
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Don Gato posted:Look, village peasants are worth about as much as empty space in the Sea of Japan, I don't see why people keep bringing it up as if it's some kind of crime. Countries all over the world do this poo poo unfortunately, 'green' programs that care about filling numbers and don't give a poo poo about anything else. China gets made fun of a lot for stuff like subway stations in the middle of nowhere, but this is just the kind of thing that happens in the last country to actually regularly build large infrastructure projects.
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Guys, is slavery good now? I'm confused. China said that the US having slavery is bad, but their own use of slavery is good. A guy in another subforum here told me that any action counter to the United States' interests or beliefs is automatically good. . . Soooo
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Does this mean they are actually limiting financial transactions to H&M online?quote:While H&M's physical stores in China remain, it is no longer possible to hail a taxi to the shops using an app and consumers can't shop online. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56533560 On other notes, not surprising Eason Chan is a CCP simp, but Joey Yung apparently is now too  https://hongkongfp.com/2021/03/25/hong-kong-cantopop-singer-eason-chan-cuts-ties-with-adidas-after-brands-reject-forced-labour/
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What choice does he have? Give up everything or toe the line. Sure it would be nice to have integrity but its hard to blame someone for making this choice.
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MrMoo posted:Does this mean they are actually limiting financial transactions to H&M online? lol they always are, what makes you thing they aren't?
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Known Nazi brand, Hugo Boss, simps for China posted:“For many years, we have respected the One China principle, resolutely defending national sovereign and territorial integrity, We have established long-term collaborations with many outstanding Chinese enterprises, and will continue to keep [the partnership.] Xinjiang’s long-stapled cotton is one of the best in the world. We believe top quality raw materials will definitely show its value. We will continue to purchase and support Xinjiang cotton.”
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I mean of all companies is anyone surprised Hugo Boss is pro-slave labour given their, uh , historical track record?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Countries all over the world do this poo poo unfortunately, 'green' programs that care about filling numbers and don't give a poo poo about anything else. Yeah, everywhere that does reforestation does it poorly. Nobody goes beyond "put trees in dirt". The subway stations though, lol. For all my praise of the Chengdu metro they made some... interesting choices on where to put station entrances. I'll see if I can find my pics. EngineerJoe posted:What choice does he have? Give up everything or toe the line. Sure it would be nice to have integrity but its hard to blame someone for making this choice. I hate it but I don't blame them unless they go out of their way to be vocally in support. The ones who just don't loving talk about it either way are best, the ones who put out an obviously boilerplate statement... I get it. I wish they didn't but they live in an authoritarian country and their lives can be ruined if they don't. Most people can't just pick up their whole life and move abroad.
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cotton isn't even a "top quality" material to begin with. high quality textiles are made from linen or wool. cotton is a crappy economic middle-ground between cheap hydrocarbon-based fibers and the actual good stuff.
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Blistex posted:Guys, is slavery good now? If you read what the MFA are actually saying, they're saying that Xinjiang doesn't use forced labour, and that the US are hypocrites for playing a false accusation considering their history.
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The theme of the poorly planned stations is mysterious entrance placement. This is at a standard four way intersection. All three entrances directly next to each other on one corner of the intersection.  This is your "station in the middle of nowhere" deal, which is fine, it's planning for future development. But four entrances clustered like that. It does look as if they might be planned to have an intersection here, but with the layout of the other roads I... don't see how. Maybe they'll reshape the whole area. Also bonus Chinese attack helicopter, I just noticed that. Those flew around on exercises in this area all the time. 
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Grand Fromage posted:Also bonus Chinese attack helicopter, I just noticed that. Those flew around on exercises in this area all the time. ehh attack helo is a freespace, you see those barnstorming poo poo all the time in inaka japan too if you're near a military base
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Fur20 posted:ehh attack helo is a freespace, you see those barnstorming poo poo all the time in inaka japan too if you're near a military base A freespace?
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Grand Fromage posted:A freespace? Like in bingo.
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The Moon Monster posted:Like in bingo. I'm increasingly confused and a little intrigued.
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