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I seem to recall the musicians guild as being a second floor travel agency type deal.
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angerbeet posted:I seem to recall the musicians guild as being a second floor travel agency type deal. It was
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The unique clown makeup thing is real though. Terry didn't make that up, it is, or was, a practice in real life for clowns (at least famous ones) to officially register their unique face makeup, on an eggshell of all things.  That's pure Pratchett - taking a real, bizarre, fantastic thing from actual history and using it as a fantasy element of Discworld. And in so doing, he both grounds the fantasy and makes the real history slightly more fantastical. It seems telling of the show that it would strip this element of its original context, preserving only the surface-level details.
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Feb 23, 2021 22:34
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Devorum posted:The individual faces of the clowns being a key plot point in one of the books that the show is partially based on, it's pretty obvious that's where the inspiration for the individualized masks came from. The masks would, in fact, be quite counterproductive for the Disc's assassins, as they were quite happy to have people know who and what they are. Vetinari was the weird kid when he was being schooled there because he was into camoflage and disguise, recall.
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It still feels too subtle for the show to equate "Assassins' masks" with "Fools' face gallery". It's much more the show's style to clumsily point out its direct references, like they would have had a secret room in the assassin's guild where they kept rows and rows of masks, and one of the Watch would have remarked "this is where they catalogue their masks, each one is individual." All they do have in their secret room is shelves full of crystal skulls; which I'd argue, if they'd wanted it to be a reference, they had all the props and absolutely could have done that bit. There's a trace remnant of the same idea in both, sure, but it's far enough removed that it seems a bit silly to criticize it because it isn't close enough, much like the show as a whole. e: possibly worth noting that Inigo changed his mask style in his career. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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Feb 24, 2021 09:15
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I saw very little of the series but everything I saw of Vines was wrong and I'm trying very hard to get that guy out of my brain.
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Feb 24, 2021 22:28
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Maybe I missed this somewhere up thread but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPeVsniB7b0 The clacks is real.
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Mar 14, 2021 17:47
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Beachcomber posted:Maybe I missed this somewhere up thread but Get this: the postal service used to be real, too. And money!
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Mar 14, 2021 17:54
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Get this: the postal service used to be real, too. And money! 
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Mar 14, 2021 18:54
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Who's this wise guy saying that money's ever been real?
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Mar 14, 2021 19:13
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Beachcomber posted:Maybe I missed this somewhere up thread but Ayyy Tom Scott! I made friends with him at a wedding!
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Mar 14, 2021 19:16
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Drakyn posted:Who's this wise guy saying that money's ever been real? I had money in like... ~2012?
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Mar 14, 2021 19:20
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I've just got this leaky old pair of boots
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Mar 15, 2021 01:29
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I'm still after my hard boiled egg
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Mar 15, 2021 10:21
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Beachcomber posted:Maybe I missed this somewhere up thread but If you're into this, I'd definitely recommend checking out The Victorian Internet by Tom Standage. I read it after Going Postal made me wonder if the clacks were based in reality and it's a really fun microhistory all about the telegraph, including the old visual telegraph the clacks are based on.
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Mar 15, 2021 13:43
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Prompted by The Watch I've been getting back into my Discworld books, which I had placed in storage some time ago, thinking I'd probably just about read my fill of it over 20ish years. It's had its ups and downs so far. Guards! Guards! - still good, bit oldschool these days, especially with the later Watch books in mind, but a solid fantasy parody story. Moving Pictures - solidly meh. It's got some good moments like all of them, but overall, not a big fan. Might have been better if it had come later in the series, when Terry's approach was more about showing the world changing through a new invention, rather than the new invention being an evil otherworldly influence and the world resetting to status quo at the end. He used that plot a fair few times. Small Gods - actually really excellent, much better than I remembered it, and I remembered it as very good. Went back on my regular bookshelf. Soul Music - the one I'm at now. I'd completely forgotten about Susan and she's great. Very reasonable person in a world that plain doesn't care about her fancy rationality is a great character, especially from today's perspective when so much of the fantasy scene is all like "but what if you approached this common trope with an engineer's mindset." Bunch of excellent jokes so far too. Caveat: high chance of ultimately running into the same issues that kept me from enjoying Moving Pictures. I already remember that I never did like the ending and how it was written.
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Mar 25, 2021 09:30
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My Lovely Horse posted:Soul Music - I already remember that I never did like the ending and how it was written. Let me know which joke you didn't get.
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Mar 25, 2021 09:37
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Jesus Christ man I'm picking a book back up after like a decade, can you maybe hold off on sardonically implying I'm too dumb to get Pratchett's genius until I've actually posted my take on it that isn't half remembered from when I was a dumb teen or at most twentysomething sorry I'm not rereading these once a year or whatever you have to do to be let in the Pratchett Thread Club I guess. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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Mar 25, 2021 09:50
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My Lovely Horse posted:Jesus Christ man I'm picking a book back up after like a decade, can you maybe hold off on sardonically implying I'm too dumb to get Pratchett's genius until I've actually posted my take on it that isn't half remembered from when I was a dumb teen or at most twentysomething Sorry, I'm not meaning to imply that you're dumb. It's just that Soul Music is one of the most "*blink blink* gently caress" books in the series. The ending in particular is riddled with musical references, some quite obscure, and I've seen people left nonplussed by it before.
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Mar 25, 2021 10:47
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We're Certainly Dwarves took me well over a decade to get.
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Mar 25, 2021 12:16
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There’s a really good one about the guy down the chip shop being elvish
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Mar 25, 2021 12:22
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:We're Certainly Dwarves took me well over a decade to get. What was this one? I remember going over the Annotated Pratchett File when I was a kid and finding out basically everything had gone over my head. I remember not being too thrilled with the ending of this one either -- I think Death(?) waves his hands and puts everything back to how it was before the music came, and none of the protagonists really do anything except give us a viewpoint.
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Mar 25, 2021 13:28
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We're Certainly Dwarves is a play on the band They Might Be Giants
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Ben Soosneb posted:There’s a really good one about the guy down the chip shop being elvish It's not just that he's elvish, it's that one of Susan's school friends would swear that he's elvish. But a musician believed to be dead who is actually alive is just another layer on the joke. The actual climax of the book is a riff on The Day the Music Died, and Death's part in it is to make it literal - instead of taking the Band With Rocks In and the music living forever, Death spares them and the music dies. Jedit fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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My Lovely Horse posted:Jesus Christ man I'm picking a book back up after like a decade, can you maybe hold off on sardonically implying I'm too dumb to get Pratchett's genius until I've actually posted my take on it that isn't half remembered from when I was a dumb teen or at most twentysomething there's no helping that guy, he's one of those rick and morty type fans
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I've never been able to decide if Lias being a Big guy who Bops his instrument is an intentional reference or the effect of a kinda generic musician name.
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Bruceski posted:I've never been able to decide if Lias being a Big guy who Bops his instrument is an intentional reference or the effect of a kinda generic musician name. It absolutely is.
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Bruceski posted:I've never been able to decide if Lias being a Big guy who Bops his instrument is an intentional reference or the effect of a kinda generic musician name. The Big Bopper reference is intentional. I've never been able to figure out how or if Glod Glodsson relates to Ritchie Valens, though.
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Jedit posted:The Big Bopper reference is intentional. I've never been able to figure out how or if Glod Glodsson relates to Ritchie Valens, though. That's what was causing me doubts, if two then it's gotta be three, right?
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I always assumed Glod was just there to set up the "we're on a mission from Glod" joke.
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Mar 25, 2021 20:11
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I can't believe that bugrit millennium hand and shrimp is a reference to Particle Man.
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Jedit posted:The Big Bopper reference is intentional. I've never been able to figure out how or if Glod Glodsson relates to Ritchie Valens, though.
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Isn't Glod the result of a dyslexic genie?
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I was thinking about Jingo recently and only just realized that Snowy Snopes was a play on Lee Harvey Oswald and the grassy knoll
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Testekill posted:I can't believe that bugrit millennium hand and shrimp is a reference to Particle Man. I still don't understand it.
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Testekill posted:I can't believe that bugrit millennium hand and shrimp is a reference to Particle Man. Foul Ol Ron was the result of putting a Chinese restaurant’s menu through several layers of auto translation I thought
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thetoughestbean posted:Foul Ol Ron was the result of putting a Chinese restaurant’s menu through several layers of auto translation I thought markov chain
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thetoughestbean posted:Foul Ol Ron was the result of putting a Chinese restaurant’s menu through several layers of auto translation I thought I think the Chinese restaurant menu was just one of the things Pratchett said he'd fed into the Markov chain, but "millenium hand" is a lyric from a They Might Be Giants song, and he was a big fan of theirs so he probably put some of their lyrics in there too.
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Lugubrious posted:I think the Chinese restaurant menu was just one of the things Pratchett said he'd fed into the Markov chain, but "millenium hand" is a lyric from a They Might Be Giants song, and he was a big fan of theirs so he probably put some of their lyrics in there too. He did. It was a combination of Particle Man and a Chinese restaurant menu fed to an atrocity generator.
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I'm about 90 pages in to Moving Pictures and I just realized that I'm reading the Archchancellor as having a cartoonish Australian accent. Is there something in the text to suggest this and I just picked it up in passing or am I brokebrained
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