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I landed on this thread because one of you made the mistake about talking about third party retro consoles club on the vita thread. I landed on the vita thread due to the nintendo homebrew thread. I am on a mission... I'm looking for something that will do emulation (I mostly play shmups/bullet hell so the systems I play are wide and varied), will play video, will play audio with good sound, has a pretty screen, and will fit in my nosferatu-esque claws. If it happens to be android based, bonus points if it's de-googled. I don't care if it has any network capabilities. Do any of these whizbang gadgets fall into some intersection of the above? At the moment, I use my phone with an 8bitdo controller and it works well enough but I suspect it could be done better if the controller and screen were one device. Thanks!
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Mar 25, 2021 16:08
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knuthgrush posted:I'm looking for something that will do emulation (I mostly play shmups/bullet hell so the systems I play are wide and varied), will play video, will play audio with good sound, has a pretty screen, and will fit in my nosferatu-esque claws. If it happens to be android based, bonus points if it's de-googled. I don't care if it has any network capabilities. Do any of these whizbang gadgets fall into some intersection of the above? I've only started researching these devices myself, and just ordered a RG351V, but from my research it depends on what all you want to emulate, and what your priorities are. AFAIK most of these systems all run on Retroarch, and can handle most things up to the PSX era, some N64 with difficulty, nothing really beyond that. Retroarch can technically play video and audio with its FFMPEG plugin, but it'd be playing individual files like you would a rom, not a terribly useful interface. I've not heard of any of them having a good video/music player with a particularly usable UI, but then, you already have a phone, so why not keep using it for that? It's not like you need a controller for those functions. The Retroid Pocket 2 can dual-boot into Android, but I don't know about de-googleification. You should be able to install whatever APKs you want, but keep in mind it doesn't have a touch screen. See the OP for the recommended devices, but if your heart's set on it as a media player also, I think you're out of luck there. Edit: Also, to add something to this thread; the anbernic devices look really good but need like one or two extra buttons for misc things in Retroarch. After searching and searching I finally found this "NanoButton" at https://www.ultimarc.com/arcade/nanobutton/, but it's costing me a whopping $56 shipped for two, and it's USB A so it'll be jutting out with an adapter. I don't suppose anyone knows of a similar device that's USB C? zzMisc fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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Mar 25, 2021 16:41
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Awesome, thanks! I figured playing media would be an issue. I already have a pretty good mp3 player running RockBox and I can keep the phone for video so that should work out just fine.
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Mar 25, 2021 18:25
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zzMisc posted:Edit: Also, to add something to this thread; the anbernic devices look really good but need like one or two extra buttons for misc things in Retroarch. After searching and searching I finally found this "NanoButton" at https://www.ultimarc.com/arcade/nanobutton/, but it's costing me a whopping $56 shipped for two, and it's USB A so it'll be jutting out with an adapter. I don't suppose anyone knows of a similar device that's USB C? what "misc things" are those? i haven't come across anything i can't do in retroarch on the 351 but i'm not exactly a power user
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Mar 25, 2021 18:32
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knuthgrush posted:I mostly play shmups/bullet hell  (there's two buttons on the side/top just for vertical games) ...course most of the shmups I play use a third button for auto fire but eh close enough. There's the tinier RG280V which might be able to be played similarly with its shoulder buttons up there, otherwise with the dual stick horizontal ones you could probably do something like a Wonderswan setup: 
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Mar 25, 2021 19:45
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Weedle posted:what "misc things" are those? i haven't come across anything i can't do in retroarch on the 351 but i'm not exactly a power user Fast Forward, Rewind, Save state, Load state, State+/-, Menu.. It's not a big deal for SNES/GBA/etc where you have superfluous buttons, but for PSX where you only have exactly the number that's needed for the gamepad it's a pain. Retroarch does have a 'modifier button' option to hold to access control functions, but it doesn't look like there's even one to spare on most of these devices. What I like to do is set L2 as the 'modifier' button, but then I need another one somewhere if I want to be able to easily press L2 on the emulated system. Unfortunately for whatever reason Retroarch only lets you set system actions to be accessed with the modifier, not normal gamepad buttons. There's an option to delay the modifier button so a quick tap will pass it through, but then you can't pass a long hold through, and you have to wait a bit while holding it to access those system functions.
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Mar 25, 2021 20:03
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zzMisc posted:Fast Forward, Rewind, Save state, Load state, State+/-, Menu.. by default the hotkey modifier is select but i changed it to l3 with a half-second delay because having it on select was messing up syphon filter. i have not yet encountered a ps1 game that requires you to keep l3 pressed so it's working great. i have the menu on r3 (so clicking both sticks brings it up), save/load on l1/r1 and speed on l2/r2. i don't ever really mess around with multiple save slots but if i did i would probably swap the hotkey modifier to r3 and menu to l3, and put state selection on the d-pad Weedle fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Mar 25, 2021 |
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Mar 25, 2021 20:07
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i think the 351v has a dedicated function button though. i don't own one but the pics show a little F button on the face that i assume is for that. seems nice
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Mar 25, 2021 20:13
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Weedle posted:i think the 351v has a dedicated function button though. i don't own one but the pics show a little F button on the face that i assume is for that. seems nice It does. Fn+ L1 SS load Fn+R1 SS Save Fn+L2 Fast forward Fn+R2 FPS display Fn+ left/right change SS slot Fn+ up/down change volume Fn+L3 open Retroarch Menu
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Mar 25, 2021 20:55
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japtor posted:Ignoring your Nosferatu-esque claws, I've been tempted by the stubby ones for this, particularly this one: I’m sure you’ve done your own research if you’re interested in this, but last I saw the previews weren’t that positive on the software side because half of it isn’t translated from Chinese. Shame, the hardware looks a neat form factor..
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Mar 25, 2021 21:38
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Agrias120 posted:Fn+ L1 SS load Oh, I assumed that was just for jumping out of Retroarch and getting to Anbernic's OS or whatever. That button was never mentioned or described in anything I saw. Well, drat. At least these USB buttons are fully programmable, and I've got plenty of PC/Laptop usage ideas for them!
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Mar 25, 2021 21:46
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Agrias120 posted:It does. Oh that's pretty neat, does the retroid have shortcuts like that?
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Mar 25, 2021 22:28
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Stefan Prodan posted:Oh that's pretty neat, does the retroid have shortcuts like that? nah, not built in; presumably you could map it to do that but i get impatient with fiddly stuff like that so i've never bothered holding down start brings up the retroarch menu so that usually works for 90% of emulator stuff i need to adjust but not quick shortcuts. other than psx and n64 i usually have a spare button for assigning to shortcuts
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Mar 25, 2021 23:52
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Agrias120 posted:It does. Going to the RA menu is the only way to close a game on the 351V, right? It’s how I’ve been doing it.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:07
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Does the 351v come with RA stock or are you loading it after you get it? Can you put RA on the 280v?
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Mar 26, 2021 00:11
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Rolo posted:Going to the RA menu is the only way to close a game on the 351V, right? It’s how I’ve been doing it. idk if there’s another way but that’s definitely how you should do it, otherwise your sram state might not get saved to disk
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Mar 26, 2021 00:13
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:Does the 351v come with RA stock or are you loading it after you get it? all the 351s run what’s basically a fork of retropie (retroarch with the emulationstation front end) poo poo POST MALONE posted:Can you put RA on the 280v? yep! https://retrogamecorps.com/2020/12/24/guide-retroarch-on-rg350-and-rg280-devices/
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Mar 26, 2021 00:20
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Weedle posted:idk if there’s another way but that’s definitely how you should do it, otherwise your sram state might not get saved to disk Cool. Got mine apart and the screen taped. Gonna paint it tomorrow and hopefully not break it getting everything back together.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:21
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Rolo posted:Going to the RA menu is the only way to close a game on the 351V, right? It’s how I’ve been doing it. Yeah, it's the only way. I only found out what all the other button combos did because I didn't look in the manual and I was trying to figure out how to exit a game. Coming from the 350M and the 280V I was so confused when the power button didn't double as a function.
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Mar 26, 2021 02:50
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So doing some research a lot of youtubers have been hyping up the Retroid Pocket 2 and it seems nice for the price. But stumbling upon some Reddit threads I see a lot of this machine getting poo poo on after owning it for a bit. This would be my first handheld emulation machine and I want something easy to setup and go with and that seems to be where some of the issues arise with the RP2. I’m very intrigued by a 4:3 screen as I’ll probably be playing SNES games most of the time on it. So then I’m thinking of the 351v or the 351m/p. I dunno.
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Mar 26, 2021 03:44
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TBH I haven’t seen a lot of love for the RP2. It’s a hard pass imo
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Mar 26, 2021 03:48
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i would definitely recommend an anbernic device over the retroid. the 351m/p have 3:2 displays and snes games don't look great on them. the best 4:3 displays are on the rg350m and rg351v. the 351v is (slightly) more powerful but the 350m has dual analogs. snes games fill most of the screen and look perfectly crisp at 2x integer scaling on either one
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Mar 26, 2021 03:48
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I have the RP2 and 351V and the V is my favorite so far. It’s comfortable for my goofy hands and worked very well right out of the box. Just be sure to read the “English” instructions on how to format the second SD and what folders to make. Super easy compared to getting the RP2 how I wanted it.
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Mar 26, 2021 03:49
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Imagined posted:If I'm having ~maybe~ 10 people over to my house next month for my birthday/we're all vaccinated now party, and I wanted to give out as party favors one of those little tiny gameboy style ones that's maybe capable of Pokemon Red/Blue and GB Tetris, what's the cheapest halfway decent one? And by "halfway decent" I mean "capable of running the game" and "fun for an hour". My standards are low. I completely forgot about this thing. https://youtu.be/GUbizcBxlAY 15 on eBay. You could probably get in time too.
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Mar 26, 2021 05:37
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MarcusSA posted:I completely forgot about this thing. https://www.amazon.com/Handheld-Console-Built-Classic-Screen/dp/B08XQFDD2Y/ eBay from California (  ), ~April 8, $15.80 each if you buy more than 3 (albeit only in red):https://www.ebay.com/itm/Handheld-Retro-Game-Console-Built-in-500-Classic-8-Bit-Games-2-4-Inch-Screen/265072068488 Similarly thin ones as part of a phone case: https://www.amazon.com/iPhone-12-Mini-Protective-Self-Powered/dp/B08NHZN5YC/
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Mar 26, 2021 06:57
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MarcusSA posted:TBH I haven’t seen a lot of love for the RP2. Now the Odroid Go Advance series and its clones, including the RG351 series, are out and mature and have numerous custom firmwares with improved emulator performance that have nearly caught up to or surpassed the RP2's paid android emulators for DS and Dreamcast, better d-pads, better sticks, better build quality, more form factors, and now screens that are just as good or better with the RG351V and Odroid Go Super. Of course I'm sure some of that RP2 honeymoon period was astroturf/paid advertising as well.
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Mar 26, 2021 10:50
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i own an rp2 and like it just fine
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Mar 26, 2021 13:32
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MarcusSA posted:I completely forgot about this thing. Is there anywhere I can see a list of what actual games come on it?
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Mar 26, 2021 15:14
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Rolo posted:I have the RP2 and 351V and the V is my favorite so far. It’s comfortable for my goofy hands and worked very well right out of the box. Yeah, so far I have a 280V, a 350M, and a 351V. I got the 351V thinking I'd only use it for GBA and the 350M for everything else, but aside from it being plastic instead of metal, the 351V is by far my favorite device. I just use it for everything now. I'm not a very big fan of RetroArch so far, but that's not enough of a reason for me to dock points against it and the integer scaling feature of it is so good that I'd ignore any other grumpiness.
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Mar 26, 2021 15:26
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japtor posted:I was thinking of that one too but didn’t know if it had the right games they wanted. And took a while to find it on Amazon out of the billion others, cheapest and quickest shipping I could find there is $20, April 7-15: I like these "system on a chip" consoles but the games are such a scattershot of roms/romhacks they are pretty much worth it as party favors or just something you can throw in a bag to whip out during lunch or waiting for a bus
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Mar 26, 2021 15:55
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As far as the 'party favors' go, I ended up just ordering one PocketGo since it seems like the cheapest decentish one I could find where you can load your own ROMs, and I'll preload it and have it as a door prize. I figure if I was buying one for myself I'd get something nicer, but if someone just gave me a preloaded PocketGo for coming to their birthday party I'd be pretty chuffed.
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Mar 26, 2021 22:21
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rgc's funkey review is out. looks kind of bad. sounds really bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HZ-K_rJVdo&t=329s
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Mar 26, 2021 22:30
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Weedle posted:rgc's funkey review is out. looks kind of bad. sounds really bad Honestly I wonder if he got a bad unit. None of the other reviews even mentioned this.
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Mar 26, 2021 23:14
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AnberPorts is running on the 350 and 351 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPaBuGwzP58
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Mar 26, 2021 23:44
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Weedle posted:all the 351s run what’s basically a fork of retropie (retroarch with the emulationstation front end) Is there an advantage to using retroarch on the RG series?
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Mar 27, 2021 14:07
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 Looks like FunKey has a competitor on the way. I hope they go with the slightly cheaper processor and put the whole thing in impulse buy territory Of course, we all know what the ultimate micro handheld is 
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Mar 27, 2021 14:59
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i’m guessing you can’t load your own roms on the flossy chicken. how’s the built-in selection? are there any scaling options? is it any good at all?
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Mar 27, 2021 16:04
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bad, no, and no It's just the same 99999 in one famiclone chip that's in every cheap retro handheld. The only reason to get it is because it's tiny, dirt cheap and just look at it
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Mar 27, 2021 17:00
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flavor.flv posted:bad, no, and no wait i thought you took the first pic while the title screen was fading in or something. does it just not show the title at all. lmao
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They can't put "Super Mario Bros" on there, that would be copyright infringement
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