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If every player in the league had to drink truth serum and then say what they think about the Watson situation we really wouldn’t like what we’d hear.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:If every player in the league had to drink truth serum and then say what they think about the Watson situation we really wouldn’t like what we’d hear. Stefon Diggs liked the Dez post. 
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Mar 29, 2021 17:56
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Scipiotik posted:Always a good idea to delete evidence during an active lawsuit and probable criminal probe. His attorney must be making GBS threads a brick. ah yes the frank quattrone strategy
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:If every player in the league had to drink truth serum and then say what they think about the Watson situation we really wouldn’t like what we’d hear. https://twitter.com/dsleon45/status/1375940896852693003 https://twitter.com/dsleon45/status/1375943152201256964
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Mar 29, 2021 18:01
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I have no doubt that nfl players have people trying to gently caress with them for a payday on a regular basis. This is not whats happening with Watson.
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Mar 29, 2021 18:02
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Wheeler is being tried in a court of law
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Mar 29, 2021 18:02
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Crazy that Deshaun Watson gets more attention than some guy nobody had ever heard of
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Mar 29, 2021 18:05
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sportsgenius86 posted:Crazy that Deshaun Watson gets more attention than some guy nobody had ever heard of Don't tell forums poster half cocaine about him.
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Mar 29, 2021 19:15
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Intruder posted:Wheeler is being tried in a court of law He also was promptly released and was basically forced to retire!
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Mar 29, 2021 19:22
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Wow. A non-Buzbee client says Watson pulled the same poo poo with her back in 2019. https://twitter.com/JennyVrentas/status/1376606917116710914?s=20
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^^^ e: beaten Okay hoping this will put the Buzbee conspiracy theories to bed. quote:“The one thing I keep thinking about is, he’s about to get traded to another place,” Mary says. “What if he goes to Atlanta or California or anywhere else? He would have a whole new community of massage therapists to target.”
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Mar 29, 2021 20:09
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/03/29/first-hand-story-of-deshaun-watson-inappropriate-behavior-not-in-lawsuit Someone else who hasn't filed suit but had a similar experience.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:09
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What's also important to note is this incident was in fall 2019, earlier than everything we've heard about so far
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Mar 29, 2021 20:11
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Watson is a monster apparently. Yeah.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:12
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Is that the earliest reported incident so far?
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fartknocker posted:Is that the earliest reported incident so far? Yes, all the Buzbee stuff is 2020-21. If this goes back to pre-COVID, then I'm almost certain he was doing this at Clemson.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:15
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Mar 29, 2021 20:19
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Woah SI doing some journalism
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Mar 29, 2021 20:24
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AndrewP posted:https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/03/29/first-hand-story-of-deshaun-watson-inappropriate-behavior-not-in-lawsuit This reads as if watson was just starting out his predatory behavior and its only escalated since. I wonder if she was the first, especially if he got recommended by another massage therapist
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Mar 29, 2021 20:26
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There are places where he can go get a massage that ends the way he wants it to. This is pretty clearly a power thing where he gets off on making these women uncomfortable. It's pretty sick imo.
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Mar 29, 2021 20:54
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Yeah he very clearly needs the extra boost of "I convinced/forced a woman who doesn't normally engage in this behavior to do it"
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Mar 29, 2021 20:56
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Yikes man. gently caress Watson. He clearly did all this and that account was gross.
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Mar 29, 2021 21:01
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I think it's possible that he's the week 1 starter for the Texans' or that he never plays in the NFL again. The range of possible outcomes in this situation seems infinite.
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Mar 29, 2021 21:05
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There's no loving way he plays. The NFL will take that choice out of the Texans' hands long before then. Remember, this is the offseason. When the coverage machine starts up again in training camp, you would see volumes of IS IT A DISTRACTION takes and questions that would force the NFL to finally do something. The only possibility is he settles all these claims before the season, and the NFL investigates and doesn't think they have merit.
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Mar 29, 2021 21:09
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I tell you what I'd like to know; what institutional support he might have gotten in college and pros to squash news of this stuff, and what level of journalistic incapability allowed him be this prolific without any reporter catching the scent.
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Mar 29, 2021 21:11
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GD_American posted:I tell you what I'd like to know; what institutional support he might have gotten in college and pros to squash news of this stuff, and what level of journalistic incapability allowed him be this prolific without any reporter catching the scent. It's pretty striking how Watson's profile in the media has been like the greatest dude of all time before this.
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Mar 29, 2021 21:16
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Much like the Coz.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Woah SI doing some journalism I mean we were all waiting on the traditional journalists to chime in...
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Depending on how quiet people who knew about it were it might not be journalistic malpractice; word of it might just never have reached a reporter's ears until suits were filed As far as we know right now based on the lawsuits, the people who knew about it were 1) Watson 2) the masseuses and anyone they talked to 3) that one other NFL player mentioned in the most recent one, who is technically part of 2 but would have more pull with sports reporters, presumably. 1 is definitely not going to talk, obviously. 3 appears to have chosen not to. As far as the rest of the people in 2 probably knew, for the most part, they were the only ones to whom it had happened and Watson had threatened them with ruin. I could see how this might have been kept hushed for this long until a few of them broke the dam. It does seem like with this many people that's unlikely, though. Even Weinstein was known in Hollywood to be a guy you don't wanna be in a room alone with. e: and good luck getting any journalists to fess up to wrongdoing right now
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Mar 29, 2021 21:21
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mcmagic posted:It's pretty striking how Watson's profile in the media has been like the greatest dude of all time before this. Clone Diana Moskovitz. I've said it ad nauseum, but I can't believe other sports outlets haven't tried to steal her from Deadspin/Defektor, or at least create their own. She's made breaking stories like these her bread and butter. fast cars loose anus posted:Depending on how quiet people who knew about it were it might not be journalistic malpractice; word of it might just never have reached a reporter's ears until suits were filed I'm not calling malpractice (unless we hear that someone sat on this story), but it's kind of amazing that there wasn't a whisper network loud enough to tip a journo off. They pay attention to message board rumors and poo poo as leads too.
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Over 2+ years with various victims in various locations that correlate to his play schedule (<- that is something I read in an article, I didnt actually vet this myself) Incredibly consistent pattern of behavior Incredibly consistent pattern of victim Agree with you GD American. How the gently caress could he possibly play again? He might have victimized over 50+ women at this rate.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Over 2+ years with various victims in various locations that correlate to his play schedule (<- that is something I read in an article, I didnt actually vet this myself) If he doesn't get convicted of anything criminally it's overwhelmingly likely he plays again....
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Mar 29, 2021 21:23
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fast cars loose anus posted:It does seem like with this many people that's unlikely, though. Even Weinstein was known in Hollywood to be a guy you don't wanna be in a room alone with. I think the difference is Weinstein (and Louis CK and a lot of these other serial abuses) was doing this to people on his industry, so there’s a social amount of social proximity. If you were an actress he abused and you mentioned it to someone you work with the odds of that story getting around to someone else with the same experience are pretty reasonable, especially as he added more and more victims. So you start hearing the same stories from a lot of different places and it becomes just sort of a known thing and when it finally goes public you’ve got a bunch of people saying “yea, that been going on for years.” Watson is picking people that don’t know him, don’t know his friends, and don’t know each other, so he can make them feel isolated.
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GD_American posted:I tell you what I'd like to know; what institutional support he might have gotten in college and pros to squash news of this stuff, and what level of journalistic incapability allowed him be this prolific without any reporter catching the scent. 100% Was he doing this poo poo to team staff? Did someone pull him aside and say go to massage parlors away from campus if you're going to do that poo poo? There is no way a switch flipped when he was drafted, and he suddenly realized he loved to victimize.
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fast cars loose anus posted:Depending on how quiet people who knew about it were it might not be journalistic malpractice; word of it might just never have reached a reporter's ears until suits were filed It's not malpractice it is just incompetence. They have to care enough for it to be malpractice. They were so busy writing the hagiography of Watson because he supported all their favorite causes, that they couldn't bother to actually get to know the guy.
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Man, This faux apology parlayed into sex addiction news tour, into the eventual sex addict therapy rollout this summer/fall is gonna be sensational.
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pasaluki posted:It's not malpractice it is just incompetence. They have to care enough for it to be malpractice. They were so busy writing the hagiography of Watson because he supported all their favorite causes, that they couldn't bother to actually get to know the guy. I guess we will see when all of the details come out but this seems like something you wouldn’t find if you weren’t specifically looking for it. I can’t really blame a journalist for not going around asking everyone they could find if Deshaun Watson is a sexual predator as part of their coverage of his support of BLM. That would raise a lot of red flags.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I think the difference is Weinstein (and Louis CK and a lot of these other serial abuses) was doing this to people on his industry, so there’s a social amount of social proximity. If you were an actress he abused and you mentioned it to someone you work with the odds of that story getting around to someone else with the same experience are pretty reasonable, especially as he added more and more victims. So you start hearing the same stories from a lot of different places and it becomes just sort of a known thing and when it finally goes public you’ve got a bunch of people saying “yea, that been going on for years.” Yeah, that's the big key here. Watson was going after random nobodies on Instagram, particularly and especially people who barely had any experience in actual massage therapy and therefore wouldn't be likely to be connected to other massage therapists. Like half the suits mention that the plaintiff for that suit decided to drop their burgeoning career in massage therapy after encountering Watson, making it even less likely that they'd encounter other people who'd had the same experience. This is also a big part of why Buzbee's initial announcement that a few women were filing suit against Watson almost immediately had more than a dozen more women contact him. Given how consistent Watson was with all these victims, it'd take reading the details of just one single lawsuit to go "Hey, that's exactly what happened to me!"
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GD_American posted:Clone Diana Moskovitz. I've said it ad nauseum, but I can't believe other sports outlets haven't tried to steal her from Deadspin/Defektor, or at least create their own. She's made breaking stories like these her bread and butter. she sticks her thumb in the eye of power and doesn’t draw huge numbers of clicks. i think she’s great but ad people probably think she’s poison
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