Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:28

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 04:15

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

Jesus, that is just pitiful.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:31

commando in tophat: Sep 5, 2019

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

What do you mean nothing? There is a lore post and a discount :shepspends:

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:53

Dwesa: Jul 19, 2016; Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

Squashing remaining bugs, heh, sure.
So 3.13 is coming in 2026.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:58

Scruffpuff: Dec 23, 2015; Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

WTF did I just read?

It's impossible to make this poo poo up. Their "update" on a game in development includes no information on a game in development, and even one of their "inside Star Citizen" things isn't being worked on for a few weeks. They're not even able to do the non-game development stuff on top of failing to do the game development stuff.

This is farce.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:13

lobsterminator: Oct 16, 2012

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

I feel like it would be more interesting and immersive if you could learn about the game's lore in the game.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:15

bbchops: Jul 26, 2001; Ho ho ho! I'll have the same again!; Nap Ghost

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

I'm sorry, what? They "brought the quarterly season" to a close? So they're just going to knock off for a few weeks???

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:30

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014

I'd be sympathetic to the point that progress could take longer than a week or even a quarter to be meaningful but we're how many years in now? The expectation of regular progress is one they've not just created but nurtured. They have only themselves to blame for any criticism they receive on this front.

As a point of comparison - Starsector just released another major patch after at least a year since the last release. That game that's been slowly developing for at least as long as Star Citizen - ten years ago it wasn't even called Starsector and was just a battle simulator. But even with an extremely small and part time dev team they manage to make actual, even astounding progress between releases. It's weird how the arcane MVP magic of 'release a product *then* improve on it' produces the best games around while Star Citizen languishes. If only Store Citizen wasn't languishing in unlimited cash as well....

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:44

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Bootcha posted:

The Prophecy Exception.

Never played it, but if it's an exception, I'm guessing it was horrible in spite of not being made by Chris?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:57

bandaid.friend: Apr 25, 2017; My first car was a stick

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

I like the spaceship on the right, the one that looks like a duck

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:51

DigitalPenny: Sep 3, 2018

Tippis posted:

The quality of any Chrisgame is �(1 / [number of chris credits for the game] ).
This is why Freelancer is the best of the bunch, and WC2 is entirely tolerable.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:52

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

So refueling and repair just entered "active development". I guess it still is early days.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:09

commando in tophat: Sep 5, 2019

Colostomy Bag posted:

So refueling and repair just entered "active development". I guess it still is early days.

I'm looking forward to refueling gun

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:23

Hizawk: Jun 18, 2004; High on the Lions.

How does fueling and repairing enter development? There's no refueling and repairing?

What? It's been ten years?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:26

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

Do they still show the roadmap or have they memory holed that completely already and hope no one asks ?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:26

Fidelitious: Apr 17, 2018; MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

I can understand a week with no visible progress every now and then, but it gets less and less likely the more the team size increases.

Our team at work is less than 15 people so we measure releases of new features and stuff more in quarters than weeks. Overall CIG is like what, 600+ people? At that size there should absolutely be something being completed almost every week.
I feel like secretly they have no developers anymore, it's just people writing lore and then videos of execs theory-crafting.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:31

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Deskeletonized posted:

So the talk about Ultima got me thinking about one of the things I find most strangest about CIG�s success. Why did Shroud wither and die while SC continues to lurch ever-onward?

I never played the Ultima series (I was a little too young and one of the six people trying to game on Mac), and Garriott always seemed like a super weird dude, but they were important, highly successful, and much beloved games. I feel like if anyone or any IP from that era could have succeeded it would have been Shroud, Tabula Rasa notwithstanding. So how did CR fumble and �uh� and handwave his way into the grifting hall of fame while Garriott closed up shop and unceremoniously slunk away?

Was it just that CR did a better job using dudes like Lesnick to tap into whale psychology and gamify backing? Did he have a better group of competent adults, like Ortwin, to help him move and shift and hide money away? Did he simply beat Garriott to the Kickstarter punch and get lucky? Did Garriott just commit the cardinal sin of releasing a product?

I think a big part of it was presentation.

On one hand you've got a developer who knows how he wants a game to generally play and feel, and on the other hand you've got a movie director who likes flashy graphics.

SotA looked more like an asset flip than a nice game, and it was hideously aged due to that. I think that, along with the poor gameplay, hammered the nails in. SotA couldn't attract new blood to it because of its looks, and all the old Ultima fans weren't donating enough to keep the lights on indefinitely. This fell to the "bad games always have bad graphics" concept and people were right because it also played badly.

Meanwhile SC has the programming internals of some Euro survival game with junky vehicle controls from the core engine modded into it with some no clip flight system, but it looks good. I think the general option is "it looks so good surely it can't play badly, because bad games always have bad graphics", and this has managed to keep the lights on unlike SotA.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:38

NumptyScrub: Aug 22, 2004; damn it I think the mirrors broken >˙.(

commando in tophat posted:

I'm looking forward to refueling gun

It'll be a refueling missile*

*missiles are still hosed

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:49

Sectopod: Aug 24, 2017

Hizawk posted:

How does fueling and repairing enter development? There's no refueling and repairing?

What? It's been ten years?

Only 6 years since they sold and released the Starfarer, the dedicated refueling ship.
I :lol:

at all the dreams.txt from back then, on how ship refueling and the needed logistics would have deep implications on fleet/org operations.
Also typing this made me remember orgs, a concept that even backers seem to have given up.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:50

Deskeletonized: Mar 24, 2021

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

Your hundreds of millions of dollars at work, Citizens! o7

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:56

Deskeletonized: Mar 24, 2021

The Titanic posted:

I think a big part of it was presentation.

On one hand you've got a developer who knows how he wants a game to generally play and feel, and on the other hand you've got a movie director who likes flashy graphics.

SotA looked more like an asset flip than a nice game, and it was hideously aged due to that. I think that, along with the poor gameplay, hammered the nails in. SotA couldn't attract new blood to it because of its looks, and all the old Ultima fans weren't donating enough to keep the lights on indefinitely. This fell to the "bad games always have bad graphics" concept and people were right because it also played badly.

Meanwhile SC has the programming internals of some Euro survival game with junky vehicle controls from the core engine modded into it with some no clip flight system, but it looks good. I think the general option is "it looks so good surely it can't play badly, because bad games always have bad graphics", and this has managed to keep the lights on unlike SotA.

This makes sense, as does the previous point that RPGs, as a genre, never "died" the way space sims & combat games did. So CR was able to tap into a lot of pent-up demand, and used the then-prettiness of Cryengine to sell the "good graphics, good game" fallacy. It's just so odd in retrospect, because both products look like hot garbage now. Thanks!

The irony, of course, is that if you looked at CR and Garriott back in the early 90s and asked "which of these supremely weird people will be leading a digital doomsday cult dedicated to their IP" you'd probably assume the guy in full regalia LARPing as royalty would be the prime suspect, not the young thumb sweating in front of a greenscreen with Mark Hamill, but here we are.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:01

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Sarsapariller posted:

Here comes a week of absolutely nothing to go along with the previous three months of absolutely nothing

Sure does feel like they aren't working on this project anymore!

That's all fine and dandy but, like, aren't they also developing a single-player game called Squadron 54? Any news about that one?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:09

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Quit being a content locust.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:19

CommissarMega: Nov 18, 2008; THUNDERDOME LOSER

bandaid.friend posted:

I like the spaceship on the right, the one that looks like a duck

Ah, yes, the Skull Cruiser!

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:56

commando in tophat: Sep 5, 2019

CommissarMega posted:

Ah, yes, the Skull Cruiser!

I think it is just a shoe that clipped out of ship in hyperspace

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:58

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Sectopod posted:

Only 6 years since they sold and released the Starfarer, the dedicated refueling ship.
I at all the dreams.txt from back then, on how ship refueling and the needed logistics would have deep implications on fleet/org operations.
Also typing this made me remember orgs, a concept that even backers seem to have given up.

OPERATION PITCHFORK is gonna be a blast! Can't wait to do battle with Xur and the Ko-Dan armada in Vanduul Space as soon as Star Citizer is finished and released.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:30

Muscle Tracer: Feb 23, 2007; Medals only weigh one down.

Mirificus posted:

quote:
Not that, but they know if you switched servers to join a specific one. They'll know if you headed straight for your victim. They'll know if you did it more than once. They'll know a lot more about your gameplay behavior and can draw their conclusion from that.

remember when those two guys were trying to stream SC together and it took them like half an hour to get to the same pre-determined location as each other? would it even be POSSIBLE to streamsnipe in a world where it's so incredibly hard to get from A to anywhere, much less A to a specific B?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:30

Sectopod: Aug 24, 2017

Mr Fronts posted:

OPERATION PITCHFORK is gonna be a blast! Can't wait to do battle with Xur and the Ko-Dan armada in Vanduul Space as soon as Star Citizer is finished and released.

Oh jfc... that too. And yet there are still no Vanduul to be seen in PTU.
That's like making a Star Wars game without any Imperial ships in it... just Rebel ships shooting each other.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 17:41

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

quote:

Ok, so wer're talking wishlist. I want:

To wake up in my apartment, walk around in my skivvies drinking coffee while I check on the Spectrum News on my big wall screen, fuss over my exotic fish tank and admire my collection of keepsakes from all my adventures around the verse. I want to see a snow storm going on outside, go to my closet and pull out the cold weather gear. Walk to the monorail station to take a ride to the space port where I have my fleet (or part of it anyway). Take out my favourite ship and set course south for a tropical island, encountering huge thunderstorms on the way.

I'll spend a little time admiring the blue sea and beach in a nice little grass hut bar, then head inland througfh a jungle road to a dirt track arena where there is a small stadium with wheeled vehicle racing - no holds barred. Have a fun afternnon there and then take my ship to fly north again over temperate forests blown about by storm force winds to a snow capped mountain, follow a river to it's source high above the snow line and do some rock climbing at the waterfall that has both running water and icicles, behind the waterfall is a cave with ancient tribal/alien drawings to marvel at. I'll put on my skis and have my NPC co-pilot drop me at the top of a piste to ski down, he can pick me up at the bottom (what do I pay him for anyway?)

Then it's back to the ship to fly home to my nearest city where I'll eat dinner in a fancy restaurant or take in a show before heading home with some tat and trinkets I bought on my days journeys.

Tomorrow I think I'll check that star up there that shines through my window as I lay on my bed, bcuase if you can see it, you can get to it.

Oh.. and I want it all in buttery smooth VR - thank you.

Aahh.. the simple life.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:26

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Awww that's so... wait VR???!!

You loving content locust.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 18:39

Orcs and Ostriches: Aug 26, 2010; The Great Twist

So his ideal game content is some boring snowbird's winter vacation.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 19:00

BumbleOne: Jul 1, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/zTQQJqj.mp4

this cat doesnt seem to know that its a cat?!?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 19:00

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Bumble He posted:

this cat doesnt seem to know that its a cat?!?

Maybe it just read that tigers really like water is is trying harder than most to find its roots?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 19:15

BumbleOne: Jul 1, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

Mirificus posted:

Ok, so wer're talking wishlist. I want:

To wake up in my apartment, walk around in my skivvies drinking coffee while I check on the Spectrum News on my big wall screen, fuss over my exotic fish tank and admire my collection of keepsakes from all my adventures around the verse. I want to see a snow storm going on outside, go to my closet and pull out the cold weather gear. Walk to the monorail station to take a ride to the space port where I have my fleet (or part of it anyway). Take out my favourite ship and set course south for a tropical island, encountering huge thunderstorms on the way.

I'll spend a little time admiring the blue sea and beach in a nice little grass hut bar, then head inland througfh a jungle road to a dirt track arena where there is a small stadium with wheeled vehicle racing - no holds barred. Have a fun afternnon there and then take my ship to fly north again over temperate forests blown about by storm force winds to a snow capped mountain, follow a river to it's source high above the snow line and do some rock climbing at the waterfall that has both running water and icicles, behind the waterfall is a cave with ancient tribal/alien drawings to marvel at. I'll put on my skis and have my NPC co-pilot drop me at the top of a piste to ski down, he can pick me up at the bottom (what do I pay him for anyway?)

Then it's back to the ship to fly home to my nearest city where I'll eat dinner in a fancy restaurant or take in a show before heading home with some tat and trinkets I bought on my days journeys.

Tomorrow I think I'll check that star up there that shines through my window as I lay on my bed, bcuase if you can see it, you can get to it.

Oh.. and I want it all in buttery smooth VR - thank you.

Aahh.. the simple life.

star citizen changed my existence, i am living the high life now!

hanging out in my penthouse-apartment on the 180th floor of a crystaline scyscraper:

taking off in my idris from the planteary spaceport:

seducing a space princess with my dashing, swashbuckling appearance:

BumbleOne fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Mar 30, 2021

# ? Mar 30, 2021 19:51

.random: May 7, 2007

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

So his ideal game content is some boring snowbird's winter vacation.

My favorite part is that all of it takes place on one planet. They never actually go into space, but they do think about space briefly before going to bed. That is my ideal space game, too :allears:

# ? Mar 30, 2021 20:36

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

Mirificus posted:

Not that, but they know if you switched servers to join a specific one. They'll know if you headed straight for your victim. They'll know if you did it more than once. They'll know a lot more about your gameplay behavior and can draw their conclusion from that.
Log files exist exactly for that reason and that's what Harry essentially said. Everyone has the same protection as a streamer. That they are listed as an example for griefing makes no difference.

Pretending not to know this, or that CIG doesn't do log checks to collect actual evidence, does not help your argument at all

if there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that the company that has implemented nothing certainly has a finished functioning logging module

# ? Mar 30, 2021 20:50