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Pham Nuwen posted:See, when I was listening to the episode, I imagined Griffin desperately signaling them to stop making fun of "sexy fonts" before they have another Furry Situation... little did I know they'd actually be cancelled for saying that a Korean word sounds gross. I mean it is a Korean word that specifically refers to loudly eating on camera. Which many people think is a gross thing. It's like being like "sorry I said that the word 'geroru' sounds gross. It is actually a Japanese word that means 'to puke.' So, it's... not gross?"
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inferis posted:The next adventure zone should be a group of focus grouped diverse people role playing as the mcelroys. 
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Mar 30, 2021 19:06
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Stroop There It Is posted:Oh okay, that was more reasonable for people to be mad about, since clearly Sydnee hosed up in responding like this was any old Facebook fight attacking her boomer mom instead of realizing the relationship with fans is different and she had a responsibility to not call that person out like she did. Having been a member of those Facebook groups back before this happened, though, I feel like Rachel is downplaying the vitriol with which people were attacking (not that it makes the Smirls' response OK, but it does explain why they reacted inappropriately). Thinking back, IIRC people were saying that not doing a white privilege episode (which I'm sure they didn't feel qualified to do) would make them racist, but Rachel is suggesting in that thread that Mary was getting defensive about white privilege existing at all? I dunno. It was kind of both. I think it started as a suggestion on Facebook, which they said they didn't feel qualified for, then a few fans started getting angry, and then the Smirl mom started heavily moderating and escalating the anger of the arguments and I think eventually saying some Boomer poo poo. The fallout was that this was the incident that lead all of them to leave the fan pages, including the MBMBAM group, and several fans who had been part of the show like Rachel to be made persona non grata after having helped them run charity poo poo for past events. No one handled their poo poo well and they're probably lucky it was contained to facebook where no one cares.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:07
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Next TAZ should be in pathfinder because I am a sadist and want to hear them spend four years to try and figure THAT poo poo out
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AndrewP posted:Maybe collaborate with a seasoned pro or something. I've been saying they should do this forever, it would take so much pressure off them.
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Farecoal posted:Having a non-McElroy DM sounds like a good idea to me for the next TAZ season, if there is one agreed, hire someone who's good at this poo poo and let the brothers improv as characters. point is, TAZ now is a huge part of their overall business and not the show to let Travis stumble through his first campaign
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inferis posted:When did lup out herself trans? When did she say it was an important part of her identity that she wanted everyone to know? Just Chamber posted:Dont we kind of live in a world where you can "magically" change genders anyway? Like the science is a kind of magic compared to not THAT long ago where someone's only option was to wear the clothing of the gender they identify as. It doesn't make it any less important if it's magic, especially if even if you live in a magical world you decide to change to one gender and stay that way. also lol I don't think Justin's getting ~cancelled~ over this, it's clearly just a dumb thing he said without thinking that he has immediately apologized for Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:It was kind of both. I think it started as a suggestion on Facebook, which they said they didn't feel qualified for, then a few fans started getting angry, and then the Smirl mom started heavily moderating and escalating the anger of the arguments and I think eventually saying some Boomer poo poo. thecluckmeme posted:Next TAZ should be in pathfinder
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Starfinder, then. Much less complicated  E: I would love a one-off of them just trying space combat in that system. It would be two hours of nothing going by how they understood d&d 5e rules bawk fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 19:14
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Mukbang is kind of a gross combination of words in the English language especially if you're pronouncing it Muck Bang like an English language person and not like someone from Korea (I've heard it pronounced a few different ways, MookBung etc etc so I dont even know the right way). And if Justin legit didnt know it was from Korea I can't blame him for thinking like that. I dont think Justin is or would have been cancelled over this but it shows where the internet is at the moment where he felt he had to rush and make 5 posts apologising and talk about anti asian hate like he was just part of it but it's twitter, he has to get on his hands and knees or face the wrath.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:22
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If we could get Brennan Lee Mulligan to DM a TAZ I'd be so drat happy.
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inferis posted:The next adventure zone should be a group of focus grouped diverse people role playing as the mcelroys. So long as Griffin gets to play 9-year-old Turbo Teen Griffin McElroy from that Amnesty one-shot a while back.
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inferis posted:The next adventure zone should be a group of focus grouped diverse people role playing as the mcelroys. One of the players will be Travis playing the role of a diverse person impersonating a McElroy.
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Just Chamber posted:If we could get Brennan Lee Mulligan to DM a TAZ I'd be so drat happy. He did do the Dadlands one-shot, didn't he?
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Mar 30, 2021 19:26
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docbeard posted:He did do the Dadlands one-shot, didn't he? Yeah, but he also has his own full time show. They should just play another side campaign on Dimension 20. Tiny Heist was great.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:35
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I was kind of hoping they'd show up in the upcoming D20 show Mice and Murder (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CokApJchV94), but am also pretty excited to finally see them get Grant O'Brien in a game. It would be kind of hilarious to see them play a game under Spencer Crittenden. The clashing high energy of the McElory's vs. Spencer's would be delightful.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:47
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thecluckmeme posted:Starfinder, then. Much less complicated God I’d love for them to try to tackle ThAc0, in like Stars without Numbers or something. Starfinder space combat is also a hilarious option. Glass Cannon struggles through it, even with David helping out.
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Just Chamber posted:Mukbang is kind of a gross combination of words in the English language especially if you're pronouncing it Muck Bang like an English language person and not like someone from Korea (I've heard it pronounced a few different ways, MookBung etc etc so I dont even know the right way). And if Justin legit didnt know it was from Korea I can't blame him for thinking like that. As a Korean I grant Justin one joke followed by a gong strike or oriental riff.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:59
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Casey Finnigan posted:I mean it is a Korean word that specifically refers to loudly eating on camera. Which many people think is a gross thing. So it’s an onomatopoeia?
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VaultAggie posted:God I’d love for them to try to tackle ThAc0, in like Stars without Numbers or something. Starfinder space combat is also a hilarious option. Glass Cannon struggles through it, even with David helping out. I can't decide which would be funnier: Clint having to deal with 3 dimensional hex based movement, or Griffin realizing that he has to keep track of an entire crew's worth of info
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Mar 30, 2021 20:24
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social media exists to beat everyone down we do it to ourselves
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Mar 30, 2021 20:25
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I've always felt that the difference between "performative wokeness" and "virtue signaling" was intent. Someone signaling doesn't give a poo poo about the thing they're talking about, as long as people see them talking about it. Being performative means you do actually care about the thing but you're making a big deal, even if unintentionally, about supporting it. Personally, it bugs me when cishet people loudly proclaim themselves Allies. I feel like that's a status that's given or earned through action and words instead of something you declare yourself. That's just my interpretation and opinion though.
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I think that whether you describe something as "virtue signaling" or "performative wokeness" depends on how YOU, the speaker feel about the behavior in question. If you think it's an admirable goal but someone is trying too hard, centering themselves too much, or just has a surface-level understanding of what they're proclaiming to support, then it's performative wokeness. If you think that someone putting pronouns in their bio is a beta SJW cuck trying to white knight for the feminazis, then it's virtue signaling and we can hear all about it on your YouTube channel.
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Mar 30, 2021 21:34
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No bones about it, imo
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wizzardstaff posted:I think that whether you describe something as "virtue signaling" or "performative wokeness" depends on how YOU, the speaker feel about the behavior in question. This is better words than me.
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Mar 30, 2021 21:50
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I've always felt that the difference between "performative wokeness" and "virtue signaling" was intent. Someone signaling doesn't give a poo poo about the thing they're talking about, as long as people see them talking about it. Being performative means you do actually care about the thing but you're making a big deal, even if unintentionally, about supporting it. Yeah but if you drill down on a lot of what people are actually taking issue with WRT Travis it’s poo poo like “soy face” and the fact that he does poo poo with his look and behavior that’s traditionally coded as queer. Like there’s a bunch of people who “find it obnoxious” or whatever in a way that totally isn’t  as gently caress (see my previous post on the matter) but there’s also a bunch of people who are mad that Travis is straight and legit consider him dying his hair the queerness equivalent of stealing valor. And that’s also super weird and not ok.
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Mar 30, 2021 21:51
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they mean the same thing and which one you choose to use depends on the scansion of the poesy you are composing
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wasn't the main reason people started getting mad at travis for performative wokeness recently the embarrassing among us monologue where he started talking about how the other players shouldn't be playing like bad people(goofing around in game) with all that's wrong in the world these days
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IronicDongz posted:wasn't the main reason people started getting mad at travis for performative wokeness recently the embarrassing among us monologue where he started talking about how the other players shouldn't be playing like bad people(goofing around in game) with all that's wrong in the world these days no, even if you just look at SA there was already months and months’ worth of bitching about Travis before the stream
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Mar 30, 2021 21:58
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I understand that people were complaining about travis but a lot more of it happened after that, specifically wrt him being performative/hogging the spotlight
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Mar 30, 2021 22:02
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I could be misremembering, but isn't there some medical reason for Travis making That Face all the time rather than because he personally wants to annoy people in this thread?
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IronicDongz posted:wasn't the main reason people started getting mad at travis for performative wokeness recently the embarrassing among us monologue where he started talking about how the other players shouldn't be playing like bad people(goofing around in game) with all that's wrong in the world these days The recent dustup is this and the "I bet you're surprised I'm not bi" tweets, but people have had a problem with Travis for a while. He's targeted for the boys' general inclusiveness because he's more publicly doing stuff outside of their McElroy brand, and a good deal of it is inclusive by design. So him supporting those things separate from his brothers makes him performative, I guess.
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docbeard posted:I could be misremembering, but isn't there some medical reason for Travis making That Face all the time rather than because he personally wants to annoy people in this thread?
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:No, it was when some people talked about how it would be cool if Still Buffering did an episode about white privilege and the Smirl family lost their poo poo. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought it was more like a small group of fans was suggesting topics like that and they said "yeah, no, this isn't really that kind of show, we're trying to be a lighthearted funny little show, getting into heavy politics is not really our wheelhouse at all" and the fans were like HOW DARE YOU
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IronicDongz posted:is this bait Naah, if it were bait I'd just ask why people had a problem with a perfectly ordinary smile.
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Mar 30, 2021 22:09
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BDG should DM/GM the next TAZ season. Also Graduation is ok, forgettable at worst. Y’all need to chill.
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Entropic posted:Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought it was more like a small group of fans was suggesting topics like that and they said "yeah, no, this isn't really that kind of show, we're trying to be a lighthearted funny little show, getting into heavy politics is not really our wheelhouse at all" and the fans were like HOW DARE YOU
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docbeard posted:I could be misremembering, but isn't there some medical reason for Travis making That Face all the time rather than because he personally wants to annoy people in this thread?  lmao it's not a medical condition
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Wonder if that's just the smile someone makes when they don't feel like they've really figured out how to do a normal one and just way over commit to showing the teeth. I feel like I made that face a decent amount as a thirteen year old and being super self-conscious of how my smile might look. Also, want to see that shower pumpkin.
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I think "performative wokeness" is mostly harmless, but I can understand being frustrated by it when Travis uses trauma-sensitive language to talk about how he's a middle brother so having to repeat himself is "triggering" or that scolding people for playing a video game wrong is "establishing boundaries." People struggle to have these concepts taken seriously, so I can see being annoyed when somebody appropriates them for something frivolous.
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