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Why the hell are the money activities 10k for 3 minutes and 20k for 30 minutes? Sure the second is slower income at less heat but the values just don't make much sense and 666 gold per minute is nothing. It feels like someone typo'd 10 minutes and most room items cost 10k+. Low level research also takes too long considering how fickle science minions are. Carecat fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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dogstile posted:Why are people proud of being luddites? desire for internet nerd cred based on a thing that stopped being edgy and cool 15 years ago. like posting on SA.
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Mar 30, 2021 23:46
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Carecat posted:Why the hell are the money activities 10k for 3 minutes and 20k for 30 minutes? Sure the second is slower income at less heat but the values just don't make much sense and 666 gold per minute is nothing. It's part of the economy balance: the slower schemes are more minion-efficient and heat-efficient, the faster schemes are for quick infusions of money that will quickly deplete your other resources if you rely on them too much. Ideally you should run several of the longer schemes simultaneously in different regions
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Mar 30, 2021 23:52
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Also as my friend found out, if you do the Eli mission make sure to actually deal with the "find the gun objective" or there will be timed events with negative effects on the world map that can give you big problems
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Mar 30, 2021 23:53
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Burning thru minions on quick cash missions will eventually catch up to you too. Unless you use Zalinka. The V.O.I.D Prototype brainwashes agents into minions in about 2 seconds.
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Mar 30, 2021 23:55
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Retro42 posted:Burning thru minions on quick cash missions will eventually catch up to you too. Wait, different EGs get different items/researches?
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Mar 30, 2021 23:59
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Played it a few hours, like it so far but I have 0 feel for how much minion supporting stuff I need (other than lockers to raise the maximum #). Money is clear-ish, same with power, but I don't yet quite get how much of X you need for Y number of minions. Also research seems weird, it pauses sometimes for not having power when I have power?
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Mar 31, 2021 00:05
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Reloading fixed my researchers issue, as did adding some closer food rooms. I'm thinking about restarting because everything the tutorial forces me to build is in a place I would never build it, and I have ended up with an extremely awkward base that doesn't support my playstyle at all. :/
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Mar 31, 2021 00:12
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Picked Emma, I dig Zelinka but I just got tired of the helmet filter on my streamer watching.
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Mar 31, 2021 00:17
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!!! Don't be like me, don't ignore putting fire extinguishers in your hallways :sob: I was playing in the background all day at work today then like 6 hours in, finally tried to recruit a henchman but during the mission they lit half my base on fire before I could subdue them and I lost everything. Game is good, if you liked EG1 there's nothing to lose here. e: Re scheme time/balance, just get like 12 radio consoles up and running ASAP so you can run schemes in several regions at once. Sure 20k over 30 mins doesn't sound like much but 240k over 30 mins is more than enough. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 00:21
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skeleton warrior posted:Has anyone been able to get more than one scientist to work at a time? I have 4 scientists and 4 white boards, and only one of those scientists is bothering to do research work, and research completely stops when they decide they need to eat or sleep. I only have three different science devices, one of each of the ones available currently, and my scientists work at each of those stations... but only one at a time. I have not tried multiples yet, you may need to create a separate science room for that to happen. Wyld Karde posted:Almost six hours played and I've had a blast. About the only gripe I have is that I wish the world map would be more obivous about which regions are idle. I spent a lot of time scrolling and squinting to check if there was an active operation in each area. if you zoom out on the world map (until the mission icons disappear) it will have just the current op running in each section showing. If you can't see an icon, then nothing is running in that sector. dogstile posted:I played for three hours and i've still at basically tutorial stage. I assume it wants me to build way smaller than I am, because i'm really having to spam power rooms. I just wound up taking my initial power room all the way to the back wall of may lair, I have 25 gens in that one room though, along with one incinerator and one capacitor.
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Mar 31, 2021 00:26
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played this all day - exactly what i wanted from an eg sequel totally agree that the ui could use a little love but idle regions do have a faster flashing light which is easy for me to pick out i was spamming quick missions and agent x showed up five times back to back to spank me for being greedy and risky i had to set up a dedicated bank of incinerators to keep up with all the dead bodies - i think i lost upwards of 100 minions before i finally changed up my strategy, one of my hallways had so many body bags you couldn't see the floor at all
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Mar 31, 2021 00:33
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explosivo posted:Some Evil Genius fans really want that authentic experience by running the sequel on the same computer as the original game Does this game support 640×480?
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Scientists take a lot of breaks, but I can confirm that multiple scientists can research the same project on multiple stations. I have 5 of each station and 10 scientists and I usually have 3-4 working at a time.
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Mar 31, 2021 00:36
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I loved the buggy mess of the first game over a decade ago. Is EG2 worth picking up? Thread seems pretty bull-ish on it. But some streamers have expressed negative experiences. e: UI seems aggressively convoluted Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 00:39
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That's a pretty involved tutorial. I just about managed to get to the end and unlock all the rooms today. Granted I think I messed up by getting way too ambitious in my base building. Definitely very engrossing. I'd agree that it's easy to get yourself stuck waiting for money or -heat schemes to complete but it shouldn't be an issue now I'm out of the tutorial.
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Mar 31, 2021 00:41
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deep dish peat moss posted:Scientists take a lot of breaks, but I can confirm that multiple scientists can research the same project on multiple stations. I have 5 of each station and 10 scientists and I usually have 3-4 working at a time. ya this has been my strategy too - 3-4 scientists per station
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Mar 31, 2021 00:44
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i think the problem is simply that scientists spend a lot of time doing other stuff and take time to replace each other. there's no queueing at all. the obvious solution is making a large enough research room and having a large number of scientists, but that's more of a midgame project i think.
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Mar 31, 2021 00:45
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I loved the buggy mess of the first game over a decade ago. I played for 6 hours today, I haven't played EG1 in a few years but based on my memory of that there's literally nothing that is worse here. It's not necessarily a huge glaring improvement and some things like building and the UI are clunky, but if you liked EG1 you will like EG2, it's at very least EG1 ported to a modern engine with some cool new features added.
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I lost track of time and spent most of my day playing this game, which is a good sign. I’ve completed Emma’s first mission after the tutorial and so far, all I’ve encountered are investigators. My main issue is that my base seems to be low on minions and not reaching the cap so quite a few stations are just abandoned. It’s nothing really major, but it’s a bit odd. I’m probably being real conservative with my building because I’ve still got half of the donut beginning floor to build on and I haven’t even built stairs. I’ve only got 2 stations for scientists to research on, but it’s not like I feel like I’m going too slow? It’s hard for me to tell what pace I’m supposed to be going at.
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Any tips about difficulty? I got through the tutorial on medium, kinda wondering if I should quickly restart on Hard to design things properly.
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Ivan is boss
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i've been playing this for several hours and i am still in the tutorial. it feels excessive to make me do the minion capture thing three times in a row. overall though it is rad.
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So far first impression is its pretty good. Not outstanding but its scratchin the malevolent management supervisor itch i get every once in a while.
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jimmydalad posted:I lost track of time and spent most of my day playing this game, which is a good sign. I’ve completed Emma’s first mission after the tutorial and so far, all I’ve encountered are investigators. My main issue is that my base seems to be low on minions and not reaching the cap so quite a few stations are just abandoned. It’s nothing really major, but it’s a bit odd. You can manually recruit new minions from the Workers tab. I think they only automatically recruit at a rate of 5 every few minutes until you fill up, but manually buying them you can cap them out right away. It's fairly easy to bulldoze and re-build rooms in this game so don't worry too much about conservative building - the spaces are super cramped by design and kind of force using them in ways you don't particularly want to, that was true of EG1 as well but having multiple floors here and an overall easier time rearranging your base means you can move your power plant and prison to the basement whenever you unlock it with minimal cost/downtime. e: Pro tip - disable the tutorial if you already know the general flow of the EG games - you still get self-paced side-missions to accept at any time that walk you through unlocking new minion types, etc. But disabling the tutorial gives you access to every room type right away and skips all the railroading. However you start with super limited money with the tutorial disabled so make sure you rush to a comms room to start scheming ASAP
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Anyone figure out what things in your base draw heat? Like can I put a bed/food/breakroom kind of deal right off the casino for my valets to chill, not connected to the main base, without it being suspicious?
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It keeps trashing when I alt tab in and out, which is a pain. Granted, probably should just do windowed mode for now. Game is pretty slow feeling, but maybe it'll pick up out of tutorial-minion/science hell.
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Anyone found good ways to disorient investigators yet? The old EG1 trick of making a hallway to nowhere full of highly secure doors doesn't seem to be working but maybe I've just been unlucky
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i've been playing this for several hours and i am still in the tutorial. it feels excessive to make me do the minion capture thing three times in a row. overall though it is rad. The tutorial is skippable when you start a new game, so there's that at least.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Anyone found good ways to disorient investigators yet? The old EG1 trick of making a hallway to nowhere full of highly secure doors doesn't seem to be working but maybe I've just been unlucky I’ve been playing Emma and hired a shitton of valets, built up my casino front and distracted investigators I didn’t want captured. Most of the time, they get stopped before they can enter the base, get taken to a other part of the casino and then get resolved to death by karaoke and alcohol. It also helps that the baccarat and roulette tables also decrease their skill so their disguises are poo poo. Outside of that, the freeze ray is pretty good at lowering the stats of the enemy.
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Did you need so many power generators in the original? I feel like I am building a lot.
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Waltzing Along posted:Did you need so many power generators in the original? I feel like I am building a lot. turn off stuff you aren't using, like empty jail cells
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:turn off stuff you aren't using, like empty jail cells gently caress why didnt i think of this.
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Hihohe posted:gently caress why didnt i think of this. Things probably still draw too much power, but it feels like the outcome of having research be a bit too slow in the beginning so you can’t get to better power generation until later. Also someone make a mod that makes corridors free and starts you with the insane tech of “stairs” because my base layout is doo doo
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Mar 31, 2021 01:20
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Gyoru posted:I had the same issue for the first few hours. Zoom the map all the way out and mouseover each controlled region for a tooltip saying no scheme running. The scheme map could use some polish like having a hotkey to zoom to idle regions or doing it automatically upon entering the map. Thanks for the tip. Quoting in the hope I'll remember it after I've had a night's sleep.
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Gotta love Eli's power walk  https://i.imgur.com/mWcdoHy.mp4
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Hammerstein posted:Gotta love Eli's power walk the minion shuffle the henchman stride
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Ugly In The Morning posted:It’s like the least pain I’ve ever had with an OS. XP was way more of a pain in the rear end, and I say that as someone who really liked XP. I don't just mean installing then learning a new OS (and its quirks, and where everything is now, and what you could do but now can't because gently caress you that's why), I also mean migrating all your poo poo, losing half the poo poo your forgot to migrate (or didn't know you *could* migrate), making lists of all the programs and apps you use to re-dl and re-install them because it would be too easy to just be able to copy/paste from your old drive son, playing "gently caress what was my password for this one website ?" for months... I've finally caved and bought Win10 last december (along with a new war rig in preparation for Warhammer TW3), and I still haven't gone around to doing *any* of that crap. I'm pre-exhausted.
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Kobal2 posted:I don't just mean installing then learning a new OS (and its quirks, and where everything is now, and what you could do but now can't because gently caress you that's why), I also mean migrating all your poo poo, losing half the poo poo your forgot to migrate (or didn't know you *could* migrate), making lists of all the programs and apps you use to re-dl and re-install them because it would be too easy to just be able to copy/paste from your old drive son, playing "gently caress what was my password for this one website ?" for months...
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