nut posted:

mcveigh book is in 👁

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1376686699787350016

mdemone posted:

I mean yeah Jolly West was there, but that's like the icing on the cake. We can try to poke into that but we're all gonna go crazy.

McVeigh was being run by Larry A. Potts, the chief FBI man at Ruby Ridge and also Waco. He called him "the Major" when he told this story to his public defenders on the night he was arraigned. He told the same story to a Death Row friend who wrote two books about it.

He "washed out" of SFAS after coming back from the Gulf (where he had been brutalized and seen brutal things, god help us all)...and then he was suddenly a security guard at Calspan, where PATCON and Northstar were based.

They ran him from the very beginning. They probably even switched the Ryder truck on him, according to him, Nichols, and several witnesses at the motel.

And then there's the leg in the combat boot.

Tricky D posted:

the ultra-rich have toilet cams in resolutions that us plebs have never even heard of

Happy Thread posted:

Here's the real big elephant in the room that I wonder the answer to. What was the FBI investigating in that OKC building at the time? Perhaps any investigations into other branches of government or their officials? Or formal officials turned President? Or what?

mdemone posted:

I'm basically finished, maybe 50 pages left. I am not totally happy about the horrible things I have learned.

edit: let me be as clear as I can about this: gently caress.

V. Illych L. posted:

is there a good, proper book which gives a decent overview of iran-contra

i feel as though everything i know about it is too fragmented

mdemone posted:

I'm basically finished, maybe 50 pages left. I am not totally happy about the horrible things I have learned.

edit: let me be as clear as I can about this: gently caress.

Horizon Burning posted:

give us an overview?

nut posted:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1377014821741285382?s=20

e:
https://twitter.com/CheriJacobus/status/1102254363018432514?s=20

ee:

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1375094924882874375?s=21

Torpor posted:

Whats the current reading list ?

mdemone posted:

In all narratives, he goes back to upstate NY where he grew up, and gets a job as a security guard at (lmao) Calspan, a major defense weapons/systems contractor in Buffalo. This is where he "meets" Nichols and Fortier, the only other two men ever convicted of being involved in the bombing conspiracy.

Happy Thread posted:

I think you mean "meets" as in "met up", but I want to emphasize that all three of the eventual convicted bombers enlisted to the military on the same day from different locations in the US. They were put through basic together in an experimental program that kept the three together through their entire experience starting from day 1, and for three years were not allowed to apply to anything that would have separated them from each other.

mdemone posted:

poo poo yeah I forgot they were both in COHORT too

Spergin Morlock posted:

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ex-nixon-official-g-gordon-liddy-dies-at-90/XPSMZ7A3T5BEDHGPMHV4PEZMWM/

RIP to one of the greats

mdemone posted:

he had been pulled aside by an unkempt man he called "the Major

500excf type r posted:

Janet Reno

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1375094924882874375?s=21

gradenko_2000 posted:

RIP to one of the greats

quote:

A new lawsuit alleges that Jeffrey Epstein raped and sexually abused a woman who he threatened to feed to alligators, as well as have her 8-year-old son deported, if she shared her experience with anyone.

The woman, whose name remains under seal, says Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell raped and abused her for months in 2008 at his Palm Beach, Florida mansion, according to the lawsuit reviewed by Insider. She was 26 years old at the time but was told to tell people she was 17, the lawsuit says.

The suit says Epstein used his reputation as a well-connected billionaire to sexually traffic the woman to other powerful people — including one person who was identified to the woman as a local judge — and ensure her silence by touting connections with the FBI and ICE.

The lawsuit was filed on March 22 and first reported Tuesday by Julie K. Brown in The Miami Herald. It names Darren K. Indyke and Richard D. Kahn as defendants.

The two men are in charge of managing Epstein's estate, which has paid out tens of millions of dollars to accusers. Justice Department prosecutors in the US Virgin Islands have also indicted Indyke and Kahn, alleging they participated in Epstein's sex-trafficking scheme.

Epstein first pleaded guilty to sex crimes in Florida state court in 2008 and spent only a year in jail under supervised release. Federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York charged him again in 2019 for a wider array of sex-trafficking crimes, but he died by suicide in jail ahead of trial.

Prosecutors arrested Maxwell in 2020, alleging she participated in Epstein's sex-trafficking scheme and lied about it in a deposition. On Monday, prosecutors filed a superseding indictment against her, saying her sex-trafficking work lasted longer and involved more victims than previously alleged.

A representative for Indyke and Kahn didn't immediately respond to Insider's request for comment. In a previous statement shared with Insider, they denied any participation in misconduct alleged against Epstein.

'She would end up in this body of water and be devoured by the alligators'
According to the new lawsuit, Maxwell recruited the unnamed woman for a purported job interview at Epstein's Palm Beach home in early 2008. Epstein raped her and forced her to accept $200 in "compensation," the lawsuit says.

When the accuser said she would call the police, Maxwell appeared to call the police herself, according to the lawsuit.

"Shortly thereafter, two individuals, who claimed to be police officers, arrived and threatened to arrest Plaintiff and charge her with prostitution," the lawsuit says. "They also threatened to take her young son away, and have Plaintiff and/or her son deported."

Immediately afterward, Epstein and Maxwell drove the woman and her son to "a large body of water that was infested with alligators" to threaten her, according to the lawsuit.

"Epstein then ushered the Plaintiff to the body of water and told her in explicit detail that, as had happened to other girls in the past, she would end up in this body of water and be devoured by the alligators, should she ever reveal what Epstein had done to her," the lawsuit says, adding the woman worried Epstein would follow through on the threat until she learned he'd died.

Epstein and Maxwell then forced the woman to submit to rape and sexual assault from other men for the next five months, the lawsuit alleges.

Epstein forced the woman to have vaginal surgery and hide his electronics from authorities, the lawsuit says
In May 2008, the lawsuit says Epstein forced the woman to submit "to unwanted and unnecessary vaginal surgery" performed "for the ostensible purpose of tightening her vagina and creating the false impression that she was a virgin for a 'high profile' client."

The procedure was botched, the lawsuit says, leaving the accuser mutilated and disabled.

Epstein also forced the accuser to hide some of his secrets, according to the lawsuit. It alleges in April 2008, ahead of Epstein's plea deal for a separate sex crime, he "compelled Plaintiff to keep in her house a locked box with property that Epstein purportedly owned" before Maxwell picked it up from her a month later.

Epstein forced the woman to hold on to "burner phones, wires, and other electronic devices that Epstein was seeking to conceal from discovery by law enforcement authorities," the lawsuit says.

Happy Thread posted:

It says something about the scale of the operation that this much was done just to blackmail a local judge (without even as much blackmail as the judge thought he was in, since they got her to lie to him about her age), and then they just gave up on her and let her go once the higher profile client didn't work out.

About this Gaetz thing, it seems at first glance like a piece of the operation getting exposed and out of control, but isn't this about what it would look like anyway whenever the operation decides to burn someone acquainted with them who becomes uncooperative?

I always figured that the blackmail tapes option is probably activated all the time, just not by releasing them to the public (the public has never seen one, after all) because that would be unnecessary.

The threat isn't to blow the operation's public cover by posting it to the media/internet or something, but to simply have the agency forward a tape to the FBI with no comment as to how they obtained it, where it is then used to convict the individual in a closed-door fashion with the tapes kept sealed due to being illegal for the courts to publish. The court cases involving pedophilia are probably shuffled around between court officials to prevent pattern recognition -- any cause for any individual investigators to go "Hey all these compromising evidence tapes that keep getting forwarded to us across all these high-profile court cases? They all have matching wallpaper and furniture in the backgrounds and video format and quality. What's going on there, who's filming all these?". Or if anyone does figure it that it's big and tries to report it upstream they're told to keep their mouth shut, of course.

And it just works, the blackmail material gets acted upon in a low-profile manner, the uncooperative individual gets arraigned by the courts, the media slams them as a lone wolf pedo criminal, and they disappear in disgrace without the operation having to risk exposure or change anything up. How many officials have gone down in pedophilia or trafficking cases that would have otherwise been flimsy against them without the added sealed evidence of tapes, which are perhaps never mentioned outside the court case to the public?