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Elviscat posted:Boomers are made by GD, missiles by Lockmart, guidance computers by Boeing, I'm sure Northrop has some equipment on their somewhere too. I read that in the form of Baby Boomers.
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Does anyone have suggestions for finding used/refurbished/discounted headsets? I'm in the market for a headset (going to be going for my private pilot soon), but the used market isn't much cheaper than new. My dad (charter pilot) is heavily recommending ANR, which certainly doesn't help on the cost.
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Walrusmaster posted:Does anyone have suggestions for finding used/refurbished/discounted headsets? I'm in the market for a headset (going to be going for my private pilot soon), but the used market isn't much cheaper than new. Assuming this is in your budget: https://www.headsetsinc.com/product/6001-anr-headset/ Also check out the Faro Stealth. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Walrusmaster posted:Does anyone have suggestions for finding used/refurbished/discounted headsets? I'm in the market for a headset (going to be going for my private pilot soon), but the used market isn't much cheaper than new. https://www.gulfcoastavionics.com/products/3583/gca-anr-stereomono-anr-headset Get this for training just in case you don’t like flying you’re not sunk into a $1000 headset, then when you finish get yourself a nice headset to celebrate and this becomes your passenger headset.
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If you are willing to put in work, you can refurbish headsets yourself. Sometimes you can find broken Bose X headsets on eBay for cheap, particularly ones with broken stirrups (the wishbone that holds the earpiece to the headpiece). eBay some 3d printed stirrups and grab new mic covers and ear cushions from Sports/MyPilotStore/Aircraft Spruce/wherever. The venerable David Clark H10 can be dirt cheap as well. Sometimes people just give them away.
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I agree with your dad that you should get a noise-cancelling headset if at all possible. It makes the experience much more pleasant and less stressful -- both because you aren't listening to the engine drone the whole time, and because it makes the radio calls easier. Buy based on comfort first, noise-cancelling second, price third. Also consider that the difference between a $250 passive headset and a $650 active headset is like two hours of dual training. It's not that much extra money in the grand scheme. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Somehow the logo seems like instructions written in angry internet abbreviations. Nose Steering Wobbly, Real loving Slow.
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Ola posted:Somehow the logo seems like instructions written in angry internet abbreviations. Nose Steering Wobbly, Real loving Slow. New South Wales Rural Fire Service
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Sagebrush posted:I agree with your dad that you should get a noise-cancelling headset if at all possible. It makes the experience much more pleasant and less stressful -- both because you aren't listening to the engine drone the whole time, and because it makes the radio calls easier. I've only got experience with DCs and the Bose X. The DCs were far more comfortable and I preferred the audio quality. However the Bose noise cancelling was very effective against the wind and the noise of the TF33/JT3D. Not a great sounding engine. And honestly I wish I'd had the noise cancelling about 1500 hrs earlier in my career, I might not be hearing the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to this day. The plastic wishbone is a piece of poo poo though. DCs last for decades, I had to swap in the Boses every six months or so because that thing broke. The USAF wasted sooooo much money on that.
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Godholio posted:I've only got experience with DCs and the Bose X. The DCs were far more comfortable and I preferred the audio quality That was my experience too. The Bose headsets are fancy and all but after trying on a bunch of different brands at the pilot store I found the DCs fit my head better. I have used/tried/owned: David Clark H10: Standard student pilot passive headset that every flight school has as loaners. Built like tanks, heavier than other options, best passive noise reduction (comparable to light hearing protector earmuffs). Some people talk about "clamping force" being a problem but I've never really felt that to be an issue, especially if you get the gel seals. They do get kinda sweaty on hot days. David Clark H10-13XL: An H10 with noise cancellation circuitry added on, so the comfort and weight is the same as above. When I started flying I got a set of these used on eBay with a full DC refurbishment for $400, and aside from some housing wear they looked brand new. The noise cancellation is not as strong as some other models but it makes a noticeable difference when it's on, and the passive reduction is still best in class when the NC is off and I appreciated that. I do enough other noisy things (motorcycle, machine shop) that I am very cautious about my hearing and liked the idea that they would still be protective if the batteries failed. They served me great through training and I use them as my main passenger headset now. Bose whatever the current model is: Tried on my instructor's set a few times. The best and most powerful active noise cancellation, relatively weak passive noise isolation. Not quite as comfortable as the DCs for my head, but YMMV between brands. Honestly felt a little flimsy after getting used to DCs. I've heard comments like Godholio's about parts breaking more than once. Lots of the instructors have Bose headsets though. Lightspeed Sierra: Picked up an old worn-out set of these from a goon and cleaned them up as another passenger headset since the flight school quit loaning anything during COVID. Definitely made of plastic; nothing obviously weak but I just get spoiled by David Clark. Noise cancellation is stronger than the 13XL but not as good as the Bose or One-X. Passive reduction is also relatively weak, comparable to Bose. So they're good when the electronics are on and pretty loud if the electronics fail. Pretty comfortable. Lightspeed Zulu: Have only tried on a friend's set briefly, but basically seems like a Sierra with better materials (more metal and leather). It's supposed to have improved NC over the Sierra as well. He seems quite happy with his. David Clark One-X: My new main headset. Lovely, wonderful. Powerful noise cancellation, as good as Bose, with superior passive reduction approaching that of other DC passive headsets. All of the suspension parts are made of metal. Light and comfortable. I love these. If you can afford 900 bucks I wholeheartedly recommend them.
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Hey not sure where else to ask this but there used to be a drone/UAS thread somewhere and I can't find it. Anyone know about that? e: nevermind found it. ignore my idiocy life is killing me fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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SNiPER_Magnum posted:If you are willing to put in work, you can refurbish headsets yourself. I bought my Bose X brand new in 2007. Two and a half years ago one of the stirrups started to crack, so I replaced both of them with parts from these guys. Two weeks ago I noticed one of them was starting to crack again (I need to be more gentle with this thing, I guess) and they sent me a new one for free thanks to their lifetime warranty. I love my Bose X, I plan on keeping it going for as long as humanly possible, it's so comfortable that I can wear it literally all day long without it bothering me. The CRJ is quiet enough though that most flights I don't even bother turning the ANR on.
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Godholio posted:The plastic wishbone is a piece of poo poo though. DCs last for decades, I had to swap in the Boses every six months or so because that thing broke. The USAF wasted sooooo much money on that.
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I had the cable fail on my Bose after about a year, and at least Bose replaced it under warranty (it's a $300 part otherwise) but for something that costs over $1000, the build quality isn't that impressive.
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standard.deviant posted:At least circa 2012 Bose was repairing them free on warranty. (Source: was the deployment supply guy, exchanged a lot of Bose headsets) I did not know that...well that's good. Somebody was actually thinking when they wrote that contract.
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I'm not sure if it applies as much here, but in consumer audio Bose is better known as "Buy Other Stereo Equipment," kinda funny to see a bit of their glitzed up product reputation carry over.
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the thing they do very, very well is noise cancelling headsets and headphones
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:the thing they do very, very well is noise cancelling headsets and headphones Where “no highs, no lows “ is a feature.
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hobbesmaster posted:Where “no highs, no lows “ is a feature. It certainly isn’t for Jerry, or Pinnacle Air.
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Strabo4 posted:I'm not sure if it applies as much here, but in consumer audio Bose is better known as "Buy Other Stereo Equipment," kinda funny to see a bit of their glitzed up product reputation carry over. Seems aviation drove their early noise cancellation research and they've been at it for a while:  Like most companies, their consumer products are .. not necessarily their best.
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Sagebrush posted:David Clark One-X: My new main headset. Lovely, wonderful. Powerful noise cancellation, as good as Bose, with superior passive reduction approaching that of other DC passive headsets. All of the suspension parts are made of metal. Light and comfortable. I love these. If you can afford 900 bucks I wholeheartedly recommend them. I broke down and bought these a few months ago. They're so good.
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hobbesmaster posted:Where “no highs, no lows “ is a feature. 
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hobbesmaster posted:Where “no highs, no lows “ is a feature. Yeah pretty much. The reason that music sounds extremely bad over the phone is that everything about telephony was optimised to reproduce the human voice. Bose’s weaknesses in music are immaterial here.
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Platystemon posted:Yeah pretty much. The old days of analog phones had great quality audio. Things sound lovely on phones now because cell phones happened and they had to compress the audio so cell phones could handle it.
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On the subject of radios, does anyone know why radios in Canada tend sound like the person talking has their head in a bucket? I've noticed that every time I fly into Canada, the radios both ATC and Canadian airplanes have a distinctly different sound to ones in the US (slightly tinny and echo-y), and since I've had a couple other pilots people agree with me, I'm fairly sure I'm not just hearing things.
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Platystemon posted:The reason that music sounds extremely bad over the phone is that everything about telephony was optimised to reproduce the human voice. Me: Puts on overpriced but otherwise very good bose A20s and makes sure they're paired to my phone Me: Dials CS Spends, 5 minutes going through the phone tree. CS: "All of our schedulers are busy assisting other pilots please hold" This song plays at super low bitrate 3 minutes go by CS: "All of our schedulers are busy assisting other pilots please hold" This song repeats at super low bitrate 3 more minutes go by CS: "All of our schedulers are busy assisting other pilots please hold" This song drills into my subconscious at super low bitrate Me: Glares in silent desperation at the ACARS message saying to call CS CS: "All of our schedulers are busy assisting other pilots please hold" I can feel my life slipping away to this song at super low bitrate Me: Engages in staring contest with small child looking at me through the terminal window. I start humming along with this song at super low bitrate CS: Hello first officer Kodiak how are you? Me: Doing alright, ready to be done with this trip. I got an ACARS notice to call you. CS: Yeah, we're junior manning you into an OMA overnight when you get back. Me: *screams internally* Ok, any idea when I'm getting home. CS: 1700 tomorrow, it's an 18 hour overnight. Me: Great.....thanks, have a nice night. Me: Dials doctor to cancel tomorrows appointment Doc: "We're busy helping other customers, your business is important to us, please hold" This song plays at super low bitrate
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Cojawfee posted:The old days of analog phones had great quality audio. Things sound lovely on phones now because cell phones happened and they had to compress the audio so cell phones could handle it. Landline telephones went digital on the back end decades before cell phones were a factor, and even before that, analogue multiplexing destroyed any frequency outside of the vocal range. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Cojawfee posted:The old days of analog phones had great quality audio. Things sound lovely on phones now because cell phones happened and they had to compress the audio so cell phones could handle it. They compress the gently caress out of audio calls to minimize the bandwidth required for the call, to maximize traffic on a minimum amount of infrastructure. It’s really lovely that phone calls in 2021 sound like absolute hot loving garbage compared to the ones I’d make in 2010, 2020, or 19 loving 85. (Very) Occasionally I’ll get an uncompressed call with AT&T and it sounds like the person is standing right next to me. It’s wonderful, when it happens.
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azflyboy posted:On the subject of radios, does anyone know why radios in Canada tend sound like the person talking has their head in a bucket? That's just how we talk, racist 
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This is a pro post/AV combo Also was this song inspired by the music from the Secret of Mana? e: maybe replace all hold music with this on an infinite loop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G85xX7mO7CM Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Platystemon posted:Yeah pretty much. Yeah it's worth noting that no aviation headsets (that I have used) are great music-listening headsets. They are, for good reason, optimized to reproduce the human voice clearly and block outside noise. The Sierras I have are probably the best from a music standpoint, and they're still far inferior to my $100 Grado SR80s. The David Clark speakers, according to the datasheet, have a frequency response that approximates the human voice range and when you play music on them you can tell. It's fine as some background entertainment in a plane but it's nothing to write home about.
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KodiakRS posted:Me: Puts on overpriced but otherwise very good bose A20s and makes sure they're paired to my phone With four iterations going at once, the bitrate tended to pick up a little
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