Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
I bought DE about a month after it came out. I gave it about an hour. I thought it was good, but my desk chair was busted and could collapse if I leaned back and it made playing a game like this nearly impossible to enjoy.

New chair new game. I really love it. I just came off of some celebrated "good writing" RPGs that mostly just amounted to :words: NPC backstories and worldbuilding :words:, and it's nice to see what actual good writing is like. I'm also really impressed with the voice acting of the Final Cut. I wasn't originally too psyched about the original announcement as what voice acting I experienced in the original release was kind of meh, but whoever voices the inner monologues is killing it.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
I'm having no issues on PS4 myself but I turned voices off because I'd rather read quickly than listen.

Also this game fuckin slaps

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
via Reddit:


Cheap joke, but you know. It works.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Any recommendations to raise motorics high for dialogue choices compared to the other 3 skill blocks?

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

Instead of going for my 3rd plaxthrough I opted to play it with my girlfriend who's only video games experience is mainling stardew a whole bunch. So far it's been great, the new voices make it easier to play as a couple and her decisions are definitly not the same as mine. She immediately went full crazy feminist on garte and then made a beeline to the wild pines rep, after deciding that the corpse and cuno were annoying. Let's see how she's going to play this, great fun so far.

Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Any recommendations to raise motorics high for dialogue choices compared to the other 3 skill blocks?

My first run was Motorics 6 (everything else 2, Electrochem signature) and I do not regret it. IIRC it has less passive checks, but some of them are 'important' ICly (OOCly you can fail fowards so enjoy). And some of the active checks are very nice for feeling competent.

EDIT : Also I kind of wish the old thread was open for spoiler chat or something because oh god, I just found out I could argue down my day 1 debt with Garte to 30 real!! And then got 70 off REDACTED. Where usually they just gave me exactly what I owed.

Tylana fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Mar 31, 2021

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Been playing on PS5, no issues so far apart from wishy washy controls when selecting things to interact with and a brief stutter when the game auto-saves. Without any real pre-knowledge of the game (for example I didn't even know you picked stats at the start) I have gone for 5 intellect and 5 physical with rhetoric as the signature skill. Full on communist hard man ideologue, fun so far! Started the game with a successful roll on a 3% chance to remove my awful expression, setting unfairly high expectations for RNG for the rest of the game.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
The game doesn't tell you a single thing about how the Thought Cabinet works or even what it is, I'm playing blind but I'd suggest looking up an explanation of that. Basically it's a combination research tree and customization menu? I guess? You decide which Thoughts to keep, they take time to "internalize", and give you bonuses and penalties.

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Decided to do a physical run this time and already miss my best friend the tie (he was silent so far). Also, decided to roll with Revacholian nationhood because it seems to fit, however it doesn't, counterintuitively you need to have high PSY to be able to take damage from fascist dialogues.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Simone Magus posted:

The game doesn't tell you a single thing about how the Thought Cabinet works or even what it is, I'm playing blind but I'd suggest looking up an explanation of that. Basically it's a combination research tree and customization menu? I guess? You decide which Thoughts to keep, they take time to "internalize", and give you bonuses and penalties.

You can also spend skill points to unlock slots (beyond the 3 you start with) and to clear a thought to make room for another.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
I was having constant crashes all morning until I read it's super common for unity to crash with a certain overlay on, which I don't own, but I figured something similar like discord might be doing it and it looks like killing discord actually worked.

I'm clearing up some stuff on my old save from 2019 I never got around to finishing off and I'm very slightly now obsessed with some old theories about hidden stuff, namely The DLC truck and the COCAINE SKULL

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Sekenr posted:

Decided to do a physical run this time and already miss my best friend the tie (he was silent so far). Also, decided to roll with Revacholian nationhood because it seems to fit, however it doesn't, counterintuitively you need to have high PSY to be able to take damage from fascist dialogues.

That thought is supposed to be self destructive.

To counter it, take the Magnesium Based Lifeform thought which will give you 2 more Volition. I also picked up Opioid Receptor Antagonist on my hard fash run, which makes it so you basically can't use any drugs, but alcohol has no downside so just chug chug chug those filthy foreigners away.

That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc
Started my Final Cut playthru. Since it'll be my 4th, I went 4/4/2/2 but cheated myself an 8 in Inland Empire and Shivers. I'm going for kind of a communist Dale Cooper, very in touch with the city and the "outside" influences.

I really like the narrator. I've been enjoying not just click-click-clicking through exposition and just listening to it like an audiobook. It's funny to say this about the wreckage of a failed revolution, but I take a lot of pleasure just kind of being in this world and exploring it.

Also, my last playthrough was like a year ago, so I've forgotten a bunch of jokes and I'm laughing my rear end off anew. How is this game an expert at being so poignant and sorrowful and yet also one of the funniest games I've ever played?? Masterful.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




I've beat the game multiple times pre-update and man some of the themes hit me so hard with what I was going through at the time - but then that just made the hope-spots that much sweeter.

And now y'all are telling me the Necktie is fully voiced? Going to have to play through it yet again.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
i dont remember any of the old voices so im ready to go

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Zeta Acosta posted:

i dont remember any of the old voices so im ready to go

Same.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


ain't played much yet but Lena's drawl feels so weird to me for an ostensible native revacholian to have, and also I liked sailor socialism as klaasje over this new woman, but maybe they'll grow on me

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


new VA is better than dasha trust me

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


quite possible, I didn't dig deep into the first conversation where you can chatter about ostentatious orchestrations and making gently caress with her, so maybe I missed her opening salvo

majestic12
Sep 2, 2003

Pete likes coffee
first thing I did after not playing for 6 months was take a swing at Cuno, miss, have a heart attack and die

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


World War Mammories posted:

quite possible, I didn't dig deep into the first conversation where you can chatter about ostentatious orchestrations and making gently caress with her, so maybe I missed her opening salvo

you didn't use your Earned Sacred Right of Quicksaving for beating DE twice to fail the second worst suggestion check of all time?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Starting up my full yellow ultraliberal run. What color should I focus on secondary? Thinking red.

Leatherhead
Jul 3, 2006

For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed;
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still

Taking the opportunity of the final cut to play this through again with my wife, letting her choose everything without putting my thumb on the scale (the only thing I'll intercede on is if it looks like she's going to miss the phasmid). Obviously, this means I'm seeing all sorts of new little lines and combinations, but there's a couple of things I'm surprised NOT to see. The opening conversation with Klaasje can go so many different ways, but I definitely thought her filling you in on your behavior was a pretty set part of it. I went back myself and tried to trigger it, but now I can't seem to. Does anyone know what choices lead to her telling you about your breakdown and screaming 'I don't want to be this kind of animal anymore'?

Also I like the VO overall. I didn't even notice Klaasje or Garte had changed; it wasn't until I got to Cuno and realized he wasn't howling everything anymore. The new voice definitely helps make him a little more sympathetic but I do kind of miss the old one. Also, the inner monologue gets very staccato sometimes with odd breaks between words, like some of the lines are assembled from multiple takes or even text-to-speech. It's a ton of dialogue to handle though, so I get it.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


dead gay comedy forums posted:

you didn't use your Earned Sacred Right of Quicksaving for beating DE twice to fail the second worst suggestion check of all time?

i am honourable and also going to play through it at least three more times for the vision quests!!

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Chainsawdomy posted:

Taking the opportunity of the final cut to play this through again with my wife, letting her choose everything without putting my thumb on the scale (the only thing I'll intercede on is if it looks like she's going to miss the phasmid). Obviously, this means I'm seeing all sorts of new little lines and combinations, but there's a couple of things I'm surprised NOT to see. The opening conversation with Klaasje can go so many different ways, but I definitely thought her filling you in on your behavior was a pretty set part of it. I went back myself and tried to trigger it, but now I can't seem to. Does anyone know what choices lead to her telling you about your breakdown and screaming 'I don't want to be this kind of animal anymore'?

If I remember right, there's a Reaction Speed check when she's heading back into her room for your cop instincts to kick in and ask her some more questions. Slow reaction speed means she just goes back into the room.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Cpt_Obvious posted:

Starting up my full yellow ultraliberal run. What color should I focus on secondary? Thinking red.

anything that falls under Joyce's apparel

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Is there an ironman mode with no manual saving yet? I need to be saved from my-savescumming-self.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


the final cut's great unlikely debate: much like 19th century dramatic critiques, lengthy diatribes shall be composed to argue between Dot Major's legendary performance and the more restrained yet more elaborate *checks notes* new VA guy

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


honestly cuno's new VA has been pretty good so far. the poor quality of the original definitely added something to it, but not enough to win out, I think

Tincans
Dec 15, 2007

nuGarte's VO is fine, no better or worse, he's fine.

nuCuno's VO sounds like they've misinterpreted the script

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPjrE6xkdLY

Rookoo
Jul 24, 2007
Does anyone know the requirements to get the necktie to talk to you? The internet says a passive Inland Empire skill check (≥10) when examining the Ceiling Fan, so I put an extra point in it, took the anti radiation drug, and I get some dialogue alluding to it being mysterious but should it talk to me immediately?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Rookoo posted:

Does anyone know the requirements to get the necktie to talk to you? The internet says a passive Inland Empire skill check (≥10) when examining the Ceiling Fan, so I put an extra point in it, took the anti radiation drug, and I get some dialogue alluding to it being mysterious but should it talk to me immediately?

always wear the tie, if your IE is high enough it'll start chatting to you eventually. pretty sure it's not triggered by any one event in particular, it'll just strike up a conversation while you're going about your business. as ties do.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
Guys this game is so good I haven't even left the first screen yet lol

E: well technically the first/second screens

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

Tincans posted:

nuGarte's VO is fine, no better or worse, he's fine.

nuCuno's VO sounds like they've misinterpreted the script

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPjrE6xkdLY

Old Cuno sounded like a psycotic kid high on drugs, it was glorious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uluhBgrtZUg

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


World War Mammories posted:

honestly cuno's new VA has been pretty good so far. the poor quality of the original definitely added something to it, but not enough to win out, I think

it wasn't the quality itself of the recording, more in the way the guy went absolutely all in

cuno was "what if dickens' street urchin but in a guy ritchie movie produced by the ghost of pasolini"

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

original VO was "let's get our indie musician and online friends to come in do some lines"

the VO now is "let's be a little more serious about it"

Draga
Dec 9, 2011

WASHI JA!
This game just does not want to work on my PS4. It keeps getting stuck on the first BEGIN after picking your stats. The music plays but it won't move forward.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

My immediate thought the first time you meet Cuno with his original voice acting was "Oh, this kid is on something." So...

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
I am loving fully-voiced Kim. Great understated performance and all his reactions to your character saying absolute batshit crazy nonsense.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy

Simone Magus posted:

Guys this game is so good I haven't even left the first screen yet lol

E: well technically the first/second screens

I def feel this. Character creation is one of my favorite parts of games, and just reading the skill descriptions for the first time I was like "god this is so rad, how do you turn poo poo like Volition or Conceptualization into game mechanics??"

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply