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Ville Valo posted:Fun movie but man that design is even uglier than the one in Ready Player One. Kiryu still reigns supreme. I think I like the 70's version more now than I did as a kid and more than the other designs. I saw some fanart or box art that updated it's proportions to be more like the modern monsters and it looked pretty cool.
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I actually like that this Mecha G resembles the brutish and inelegant things made by the military industrial complex, like a fusion between a M1 Abrams and Godzilla. The Apex commercial shown early on starts with aerial and ground drones followed by factory robots and finally children being identified by facial recognition software. Big tech is not humanity's friend in the monsterverse or our world.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:This was so similar to bvs lol Good I’m happy to know I’m not the only one thinking that.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:This was so similar to bvs lol I, no, that is stupid and makes no...wait.........holy poo poo. So Godzilla is...and Kong is...and Mecha....HOLY poo poo.... I say this as someone who loves BvS, btw.
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Mar 31, 2021 22:57
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loving great movie. Just a big ol' WWE match with monsters. The human stuff was even enjoyable when Kong was around. The only weak point was the MBB side story, but they were fairly brief and not that bad. I think helped going full-on Sci-fi for a lot of the human stuff. We have anti-grav units and a giant mech. Also we're in Kong's literal throne room and he has an axe. Sure. gently caress it, why not? If they're going to go hard, they leaned into it instead of trying to temper it with some dumb realism bullshit. A+ will rewatch. They are two good strongboys.
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It’s amazing just how much better this film is then KOTM. Only area I’d say it isn’t is the score, and that’s a debatably point. Hell even the goofy stuff I was annoyed about in KOTM I’m fine with how it’s done here. That said I hope they put deleted scenes out as extras, cause no way was that all Lance Reddick was cast for.
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Mar 31, 2021 23:38
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There's no way they hired Reddick for one line. Wiki says he's cast as a Monarch high up, so between that and the brief runtime, there's definitely a subplot on the floor at Legendary.
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well why not posted:There's no way they hired Reddick for one line. Wiki says he's cast as a Monarch high up, so between that and the brief runtime, there's definitely a subplot on the floor at Legendary. #ReleasetheReddickCut
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Mar 31, 2021 23:45
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Vintersorg posted:Loved the little homage to Kong stuffing a tree down Godzillas throat when he stuffs the axe down there, lol. They also had the classic electricity revives Kong angle. 
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The REAL Goobusters posted:This was so similar to bvs lol Ah, poo poo. So it sucks then?
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This is all so on the nose it's funny. Alpha Boss naming his company Apex Cybernetics is further confirmation of his delusion and belief in a fictional hierarchy. Being an apex predator does not make you a ruler of the land or the seas. Species like lions, orcas, and t-rexs aren't normally preyed upon by others and exert pressure on all trophic levels below them, but that also means they are in the most precarious position due to their nutritional and thus territorial requirements. Their very survival is dependent on a balanced healthy ecosystem, while a bottom feeder or burrower can survive an asteroid impact/climate change, the inherent needs of big hunters make them most likely to go extinct in bad times. The duality of real apex predators is present in the story with Godzilla and Kong being lone survivors of equally mighty and endangered species. In spite of that reality, arrogant people see these megafauna in that cartoonish light and act in accordance with that fake alpha mentality, causing harm to others, the world, and themselves. The movie itself says there's no need to battle for dominance when Kong and Godzilla choose to stop fighting when the manmade disturbance is removed. There's interesting stuff here for such an intentionally bombastic and silly film.
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Gatts posted:#ReleasetheReddickCut well why not posted:There's no way they hired Reddick for one line. Wiki says he's cast as a Monarch high up, so between that and the brief runtime, there's definitely a subplot on the floor at Legendary. I’ll be very interested to read about the production history for the movie when the info starts coming out. It was delayed so many times and it seemed like it was a hard transition from to KOTM to Godzilla vs. Kong.
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There's already some information on Lance Reddick's reduced role over here. Doesn't sound like any other cut will ever be forthcoming.Adam Wingard posted:Originally, Lance's part was a little bit bigger as he plays the Monarch director, he's running the organization. There was a scene earlier in the film, a big board room scene where they're setting up the mission. He had a larger role, but ultimately we didn’t need that scene, we changed a couple of plot details during the editing process, so that earlier stuff got cut. Now, that stuff just counts as a fun cameo. He is still top credited, it's still part of his contract. It's funny because he shows up in the opening credits and then turns up for four lines, maybe three, in the movie ultimately. Even as a cameo, seeing him in a Wingard film brought happy memories of The Guest, the last film they worked on together.
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Enjoyable enough movie, and definitely wasn't as stupid as KotM which I appreciated. Interesting that they decided to kill off all the new monsters introduced in KotM in between movies ... what was even the point? Still, Godzilla 2014 and Skull Island were visually interesting in a way the latter two Monsterverse movies were unable to replicate. Too bad.
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mr. unhsib posted:Enjoyable enough movie, and definitely wasn't as stupid as KotM which I appreciated. Interesting that they decided to kill off all the new monsters introduced in KotM in between movies ... what was even the point? I don't think they mean defeated equals dead. The only ones that should be counted as dead are the ones we see die. Otherwise, defeated could just mean that they're not an active threat now.
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I laughed pretty hard once I saw what they were doing there in the credits. Maximum cheese.
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mr. unhsib posted:Enjoyable enough movie, and definitely wasn't as stupid as KotM which I appreciated. Interesting that they decided to kill off all the new monsters introduced in KotM in between movies ... what was even the point?
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"There goes Kong, the smartest and most dextrous titan to walk the planet. No one bows to Kong. He does what he wants, when he wants. He weighs as much as a mountain." *scene missing* "This is a bad idea" she says. Kong is in the background, wrapped in chains, chilling on a boat.
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Dignity Van Houten posted:
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I loved and hated the movie. By itself, it was fantastic start to finish. Very Millenium era plot, good action, amazing fights. I was actually surprised at how simple mecha G was? Like I had all these crazy ideas they straight up had a fake Godzilla but nah G was just trying to stop Mecha from coming online. I dig that. The human plot only existed to move across locations and that’s ok for the film this was trying to be. That said, it’s such an insane and bullshit departure from G’14 I can’t help but to be somewhat disappointed. I knew once KOTM opened that box we’d never go back to anywhere near realism but hot loving drat they went all out on this one. Hollow Earth was cool and the most believable part of this movie compare led to the bullshit cyber tech anyone can use and is also broken by the front facing computer. I thought it was dumb in KOTM and it’s even worse here. But it’s only worse when directly comparing it G’14. KOTM and GvK are great and fit right in with the rest of the Godzilla movies. Right amount of camp, magic tech, and monster fights. But G’14 and Shin stand alone as the real greats.
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thrawn527 posted:I agree, that was weird, and left me confused. I forgot about that. That was my oh so we’re REALLY not bothering with the plot, huh moment. Vintersorg posted:I laughed pretty hard once I saw what they were doing there in the credits. Maximum cheese. I must have missed this because I didn’t pick up on anything? I was half posting my thoughts during it tho
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I rewatched G14 just now and it’s kinda crazy how “realistic” it is compared to GvK. It’s only been 7 years and two sequels, but now we’ve got THE HOLLOW EARTH, intercontinental hyperloop pods, anti-grav spaceships, massive Monarch bases, humans piloting giant mecha via It's not dissimilar to what Ivan Reitman and Harold Ramis said about rewriting Ghostbusters, they called it the domino theory of reality. You couldn't have a 100-foot-tall marshmallow man 20 minutes into the movie, it would be too much, too soon. But if you slowly ramp things up, starting with the library ghost, then of COURSE the audience buys the marshmallow monster, because you've been slowly increasing the dosage of silly over the last hour and a half.
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Overall it was good but I think I liked KOTM more (but I've always been a big Ghidorah fan). The sea fight was really cool and Godzilla stalking them like a shark was a great visual. It actually reminded me a lot of the start of 20,000 leagues under the sea when the Nautilus is attacking the ships. The Hong Kong fight part 1 wasn't as good for me as the Boston fight in KOTM. Just the two of them punching it out over who is the best. It didn't have the "This could be the end of the world" urgency. Adding Mecha to the fight improved it and I wish that had lasted a bit longer. As for the human stuff... Eh. The girl being Kong's friend was nice and the only good plot. The MBB and team stuff was only good for my favorite exchange in the whole movie: "I only learned HTML at summer camp!" "Was it a 90s summer camp?!" If they somehow got to do more of these movies... I'd love to see a prequel with Atlantis Godzilla vs Kong Kingdom. And then another sequel with Mecha Ghidorah. Also the gravity vehicles would be an amazing theme park ride. Fly through hollow earth and then the middle of a Kong/Godzilla fight. Zero One fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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That poo poo was FUN. Kong really shines, and I love me some Kong, so that's a big win in my book. Kong smiling when he sees the little girl was 
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I loved it. 7/10? Maybe 8. Felt like a Showa era movie with 2021 visuals. Corny, a bit. But the 8 year old me watching channel 18 on Friday (Saturday?) nights back in Milwaukee many years ago would have loved it. Never outgrow your inner 8 year old.
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Zero One posted:Overall it was good but I think I liked KOTM more (but I've always been a big Ghidorah fan). I think all of them are good for somewhat different reasons. G14 was a disaster movie, Skull Island was like a grindhouse throwback crossed with Alien, KOTM was "what if transformers but good", and GvK reminds me of like, pulp 50s serials It's good stuff all around
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I must have missed this because I didn’t pick up on anything? I was half posting my thoughts during it tho It was basically a tournament bracket on screen. 
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Kong smiling when he sees the little girl was I chuckled out loud when he was getting a sense of his surroundings in Antarctica, and shuddered as if to say "oh, this really sucks."
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Vintersorg posted:It was basically a tournament bracket on screen. Ooooooooh you meant the opening credits and I misread. Yeah that poo poo owned.
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I also found it weird how Kong lady was like "no way will I let you put Kong in harm's way" and after cowardly guy says "pretty please" she's onboard with it.
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Tekne posted:I also found it weird how Kong lady was like "no way will I let you put Kong in harm's way" and after cowardly guy says "pretty please" she's onboard with it. I mean he did argue correctly that the current situation was untenable and it was only a matter of time
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Tekne posted:I also found it weird how Kong lady was like "no way will I let you put Kong in harm's way" and after cowardly guy says "pretty please" she's onboard with it. They rather heavily imply that Skull Island can't sustain Kong indefinitely at his current size and if he stays there he'll die, not to mention that some time before that he's probably going to bust his containment system.
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"this untested experimental aircraft has enough power to run the city of Las Vegas for a week. I can reconfigure it to discharge instantaneously by flipping this switch. When we breach the hollow earth, the force of gravity will flip and likely crush us to death. It's like bungee jumping with the cord tied to your lower intestine.Theres flying carnivorous bats the size of dump trucks." "can my seven year old daughter come" "sure"
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Huh, I forgot about that. Guess I'm just not used to differences in opinion between being resolved that quickly in movies/tv. They brought the girl because it would be cruel for her to miss the fieldtrip of a lifetime.
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They bring the girl because Kong would go completely berserk without her. Also, like, Monarch isn't really the good guys in this film lol. They're basically slavers who just barely-sorta make amends at the very end by reviving Kong. Ilene is maybe slightly less complicit than Nathan but most of her making GBS threads on him is deeply hypocritical, and with respect to Kong specifically she might even be worse because she's implied to have at least suspected that Kong is sapient for some time now. They both suck.
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also the native Iwi residents of Skull Island were wiped out by "a storm", which if you read between the lines presumably means King Ghidorah, in which case Monarch is effectively responsible for their genocide. and then they basically set up camp over their graves, built a prison for their god, and used the last survivor of their people to keep him docile.
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drat I thought this poo poo was worse than the tristar godzilla film lol It goes so far off the established rails that it seemed more like a millennium-era one-off than an actual sequel
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:also the native Iwi residents of Skull Island were wiped out by "a storm", which if you read between the lines presumably means King Ghidorah, in which case Monarch is effectively responsible for their genocide. and then they basically set up camp over their graves, built a prison for their god, and used the last survivor of their people to keep him docile. I forget if that was already mentioned in KOTM but I feel like it was. But also wasn’t a giant storm already surrounding the island in Skull Island? Another detail that was cool but didn't make sense: When Kong puts the axe in the ground the lighted circle of energy looks like a Godzilla.
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Zero One posted:Another detail that was cool but didn't make sense: What doesn't make sense about it? The ancient Kong society used dead godzillas as a power source. This is definitely a brilliant idea that could never go wrong, has no parallels to what humanity is doing in the present, and couldn't possibly have anything to do with Kong civilization being wiped out. 
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