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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the USA, and I'm here to help.

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RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

its time to invade california.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Low Desert Punk posted:

aoc is such a piece of dogshit

:aochloe:

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

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Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title
[Dems]: : aochloe:

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

I will be a Massachusetts resident by the end of the year.

Can't wait to vote against Warren in the next primary.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

just do a massive infrastructure bill and then give all these migrant refugee children DOT jobs bing bong

i am harry has issued a correction as of 04:35 on Apr 1, 2021

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

I hope the succ have the loving balls this red cross guy did when he ran across a guarded fence line to throw medical supplies to interned Japanese

http://www.discovernikkei.org/en/journal/2018/4/12/red-cross-hero-of-camps/

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
The loving most depressing part about this whole debacle is that not only are we still doing family separation the people in the concentration camps are refugees

This keeps getting glossed over I think

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


Thanks for showing your asses by not having any basic understanding on how anything works in regards to FEMA deployments or medical licenses. Again its obvious that the goal here is to disect everything to make people out to be monsters instead of discussing solutions or ways to provide aid to be people there. Literally everyone here can find local shelters or refugee groups that would gladly take help in your area, instead its about finding ways to own posting enemies on SA instead of leaving your posting hovel

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
I really don't think you need some expert nuanced knowledge to understand the simple solution of just don't separate families and put them in cages? Let them go to the relatives in the country or groups ready to assist their arrival?

You can't means test your excuses for why it's impossible to not put children in concentration camps.

WorkerThread
Feb 15, 2012

the idea that you can't post unless you include your peer reviewed 39 point plan to address the problem, plus attach a cv with all of your volunteer activities is so stupid and seems to be gaining traction for some reason

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

look elissabeth had a plan, she could've won if you just loving voted for her

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

are youy proposing dumping them off into a portal delivering them into 1940s auschwitz? marching them right into the chrono nexus? because that would be far worse than what is happening now

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I regret touching the poop like I always do but I’m a filthy little piglet and sometimes the siren song of a big pile of filth is too much

best part about that thread, like every immigration discussion that has ever been held in dnd over the past few years is joepinetree coming in to give the liberals exactly what they “want” (hard data!! numbers!!! PLANS!!!) but it doesn’t confirm their ghoulish opinions so they pretend not to see his posts as hard as they possibly can or decide it’s all bunk because these numbers come from Monday and it’s Wednesday now so this is all totally unusable

They do something that is sort of similar to a gish gallop where if someone gives them the facts/studies/etc they claim to want they'll say "thanks!" and then the next day immediately return to making the same arguments against other people who are saying the same thing as the poster who provided evidence.

Same thing applies to when they go "why aren't you doing activism instead of posting"; if someone actually bothers to explain what they do IRL they'll either ignore it or say "that's good!" and then proceed to use the exact same argument against everyone else who shares the same opinion.

They probably don't even realize they're doing this. In their minds, these discussions are essentially about the individual morality of the people involved. They "know" that the people they disagree with are bad/dumb, so it's simply a question of revealing this obvious truth.

Josh Christ
Dec 24, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

WorkerThread posted:

the idea that you can't post unless you include your peer reviewed 39 point plan to address the problem, plus attach a cv with all of your volunteer activities is so stupid and seems to be gaining traction for some reason

Two step plan incoming, can't wait to post in dnd

1) get people out of the camps
2) burn the camps with ice inside because ice isn't people

WorkerThread
Feb 15, 2012

Excelzior posted:

look elissabeth had a plan, she could've won if you just loving voted for her

should have had a plan to get some votes lol

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

WorkerThread posted:

should have had a plan to get some votes lol

:mmmhmm:

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Ytlaya posted:

They probably don't even realize they're doing this. In their minds, these discussions are essentially about the individual morality of the people involved. They "know" that the people they disagree with are bad/dumb, so it's simply a question of revealing this obvious truth.

They don’t gather facts and synthesize an opinion, they start with an opinion and gather facts which support it. If the facts don’t follow towards the conclusion they are aiming for, they are discarded.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

WorkerThread posted:

the idea that you can't post unless you include your peer reviewed 39 point plan to address the problem, plus attach a cv with all of your volunteer activities is so stupid and seems to be gaining traction for some reason

It's always been extremely hosed up, since it's effectively saying "you don't deserve to have your voice heard unless you put in the work."

Il Federale
Oct 10, 2012



https://twitter.com/morganisawizard/status/1377098808555757568

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


nice whataboutiasm

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

that extremely dark wall paint behind :aochloe: is pretty :aochloe:

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

WorkerThread posted:

the idea that you can't post unless you include your peer reviewed 39 point plan to address the problem, plus attach a cv with all of your volunteer activities is so stupid and seems to be gaining traction for some reason

Don't worry, posting peer reviewed studies and having a better CV than all of them won't get you any more traction.


Ytlaya posted:



They probably don't even realize they're doing this. In their minds, these discussions are essentially about the individual morality of the people involved. They "know" that the people they disagree with are bad/dumb, so it's simply a question of revealing this obvious truth.

Liberals can't understand of politics outside of careerist technocracy. It's why the response to "Eliot Abrams supported death squads in central america" was "he was such a nice guy to work for and such a great mentor."

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

WorkerThread posted:

the idea that you can't post unless you include your peer reviewed 39 point plan to address the problem, plus attach a cv with all of your volunteer activities is so stupid and seems to be gaining traction for some reason

i think "does a plan to solve this problem exist? can a plan to solve this problem exist?" are good questions to ask yourself before getting invested in any political issue

but, like... there are plans to solve this problem, they just involve spending money which the biden administration doesn't want to spend and political willpower the biden administration does not have

these assholes aren't asking for us to provide a plan, they're asking for us to provide a convenient plan for the biden administration's political objectives which is a very different and very gross expectation to have

it would literally, literally be better to just release a lot of these kids directly onto the street and let civilian agencies handle the relief than it would be to keep them in the loving cages sitting elbow to elbow for one more loving second


edit: and like, literally any of the arguments for not just releasing, say, every kid over the age of 12 directly onto the streets can just be answered with "that's already happening inside the concentration camps." Malnutrition? Check! Deaths from preventable diseases up to and including exposure? Check! Every imaginable type of abuse? You Betcha! And it's not like they have the apparent ability to keep track of these kids at this point already. We'd be better off just turning the detention centers into soup kitchens and letting the kids come and go as they pleased. Literally any loving solution you could think of is better than what we're doing now.

Mirthless has issued a correction as of 05:57 on Apr 1, 2021

Jay-V
Nov 8, 2009

Mister Fister posted:

Latinos are definitely going to make headway into the GOP, some latino subgroups are more conservative than people realize. Asians are... getting hosed with the anti-asian violence and are getting fed up at upper middle class IDPOL asians in the media and NGO's who want to turn every single act of anti-asian violence into an example of 'white supremacy' even when the attacks are from other POC, not sure if they'll defect, but i could see some risk there. BTW, i think it's kind of insane to tell asians that they shouldn't be arming themselves AND shouldn't be asking for more police presense in their neighborhoods (i think this is totally justified based on the current climate). The black vote i think is pretty solid even if there were some black men who went to Trump.

true for latinos (even tho biden is catholic) and many azns also have been getting mad for a while at the idea of school acceptances becoming easier thru idpol (SAT scores/affirmative action, removing standardized tests for magnet high schools, etc)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
give each kid 40 acres and a mule

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

WorkerThread posted:

the idea that you can't post unless you include your peer reviewed 39 point plan to address the problem, plus attach a cv with all of your volunteer activities is so stupid and seems to be gaining traction for some reason

Hmmm, no. I can do some lewds (no face, tight gray sweatpants) and a pic of my warren number tattoo

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Mirthless posted:

but, like... there are plans to solve this problem, they just involve spending money which the biden administration doesn't want to spend and political willpower the biden administration does not have
there's plenty of money. most people could easily come up with a better plan if their budget was $750/child/day

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

comedyblissoption posted:

there's plenty of money. most people could easily come up with a better plan if their budget was $750/child/day

yea but a government employee can't take a poo poo without using a hundred dollars worth of toilet paper and having twelve forms signed in triplicate so i'm gonna give them at least a small measure of slack in that literally anything they do to reform this will cost an obscene amount of money

that isn't an excuse to not do it, for all the same reasons it wasn't an excuse to not close gitmo

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


lmao socialists for beto unmasked, good bit

https://twitter.com/carlbeijer/status/1377396869538619393?s=21

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Mirthless posted:

edit: and like, literally any of the arguments for not just releasing, say, every kid over the age of 12 directly onto the streets can just be answered with "that's already happening inside the concentration camps." Malnutrition? Check! Deaths from preventable diseases up to and including exposure? Check! Every imaginable type of abuse? You Betcha! And it's not like they have the apparent ability to keep track of these kids at this point already. We'd be better off just turning the detention centers into soup kitchens and letting the kids come and go as they pleased. Literally any loving solution you could think of is better than what we're doing now.

Also a lot of these kids were with their parents or adult siblings until CBP got involved. The fact that it's not the formal policy to separate them doesn't mean they're not doing it, and the fact that they're expelling families who seek asylum but keep kids while their cases are processed means a lot of families are sending their kids into CBP custody on purpose because it's better than going back to the hell we've created for them in Haiti or wherever.

Situation would unironically and literally get better if we just demolished the border outposts, fired every single member of CBP, and put a couple Army brigades down there to make sure Mexico doesn't try to invade while they passively watch an endless stream of the refugees we've created cross into the country.

But let's be real: it's an option that Biden could quite literally issue an EO tomorrow that CBP must immediately issue a notice to appear to any family entering the country and then let them in. That's always been possible. He just won't because he's an evil piece of poo poo.

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

Thump! posted:

Here's the thing, I get deployed by fema? I will be down there giving aide, and I will do it to provide care for these people. Not shitpost at others that they dont know what real harm is or what the name of a camp is. I can actually provide aide and if authorized I can and will go down there to do so for these kids. I can provide a level of care and humane treatment. Not scream at hypothetical enemies like most of the people here are. Aruan has a point, put your money where your mouth is, provide aide or go there and do it yourself or shut up.

I can get deployed at any time and go to national disasters and humanitarian crisis as part of my job, I can say I can help and do it, not scream endlessly at a windmill to try and own others. Saying that YOU can't change anything is wrong, anyone can do something to enact change. It just means not staring at your computer looking for excuses on what theres nothing that will ever change so why bother.

lol the turbolib who posted this for some reason absolutely despises me and i had no idea why. now i know why.

ram dass in hell has issued a correction as of 07:11 on Apr 1, 2021

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

Ytlaya posted:

It's always been extremely hosed up, since it's effectively saying "you don't deserve to have your voice heard unless you put in the work."

im crafting a take where dnd mods probating me is ableism because it's not my fault my brain is like this

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

spacemang_spliff posted:

D&D posters need to apologize to their chud friends and family because ultimately when it comes to the concentration camps, they agree with each other. I see the same talking points from libs that I saw from chuds in 2017-2018. There is no actual difference between the two groups, it's just that being a trump supporter isn't socially acceptable.

the chuds have a better sense of comedy. which to be clear is damning by faint praise because they're still terribly unfunny but liberals are just that much worse

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Judakel posted:

I got a two week probe for continuing to discuss something after getting probed for discussing that very same thing. That something? Q-Anon in the USPol thread. The guy arguing? 700 bees. Glad that freak was driven out.

What drove 700 bees out? What kind of opinion ended up bad enough?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

What drove 700 bees out? What kind of opinion ended up bad enough?

something about the inherent chud ness of Latinos. he then melted down when he got tweaked for it and ran away

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
this is low hanging fruit since it's noah but

https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1377132415030677510

this is the final stage of exploitation of the rest of the world. brain drain of the rest of the world

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alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

What drove 700 bees out? What kind of opinion ended up bad enough?

toxic MACHISMO

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