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When Trump was fed "tip top" he made it sound like this is the dumbest poo poo ever.
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BiggerBoat posted:I honestly think -- given his complete lack of intellectual curiosity about loving anything -- that he had very little idea who they were and what they thought and simply understood in a basic sense that they love and supported him. Since that's usually all he loving cares about anyway. I know it's bad form to like, dehumanize people you don't like, but I'm not really sure Trump is what I would recognize as a person. I don't think he deals with information in the way that most people do, and essentially because of the recursive effects of how he gets fed information and who he chooses to act as gatekeepers for him, i think he's kind of close to like, a philosophical zombie. Like there's nothing going on there, the internal monologue consists of just like "uh nice tits" "drat i'd like a cheeseburger" "diet coke buton" gently caress yeah they love me" "gently caress that guy (who said anything negative about trump) he's a loser etc.." "uh nice tits" and just.. repeat endlessly. I really truly think that due to convergent evolution if an alien showed up and talked to us it'd be more comprehensible than Trump, who just, really, the closest analog is probably someone who has schizoid affective disorder, paranoid type, who are, in my personal experience, often just really really strange to talk to.
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Mar 31, 2021 03:05
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I think it depends how you define human, but yes. I would argue that the thought processes Trump experiences are completely and utterly alien to what the bulk of human beings experience and that honestly he does not perceive reality in the same way you or I do. There's an old quote from, I believe it was a Dungeons and Dragons monster manual describing a sort of low level demon, but honestly it's a great line that always stuck with me and I think is the perfect description of trump: "they would be pitiable were they not so loathsome." I think there's another, more relevant, quote from around the first election, about Trump in particular, and I can't recall who said it: Trump is what he is and that's pathetic. Trump's supporters are what they have chosen to be, and that's terrifying.
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Mar 31, 2021 03:17
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I view him as a force of nature, something that responds in a mostly predictable way to circumstance but not something to reason with. It's good to understand weather patterns but it's not useful to wonder what the wind is thinking.
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Mar 31, 2021 03:26
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I mean, we have the first impeachment, and the mueller report. Collusion between elements in the Trump Campaign and the GRU. Cambridge Analytica exfiltrating facebook meta-data and passing it to the IRA. We have the US Intelligence community (and many independent cyber-security wonks) telling us there was a deliberate disinformation campaign that exploited prominent conspiracy theoroies, creating rabbit-holes. We have qanon, the broad umbrella that envelops all those rabbit holes. And we have Trump being fed specific words to say in his speeches that reinforce qanon true believers. Plus the articles on RT, Fox, OANN, The Epoch Times, Infowars, Project Veritas, etc that are also designed to reinforce the qanon conspiracy theories. And an active campaign of obscurantism, looking to occlude that all these facts align to point to a singular meta-narrative. And then there's my personal experiences over the last 4 years, that align scary-well with the narrative implied above. Trump is an idiot. He's not the 'mastermind' of Q. But someone in his inner circle - likely multiple (gently caress, we know who) - is deeply involved, and the IRA is clearly in league.
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Mar 31, 2021 03:43
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sure hope q is excited about finding another child rapist in congress
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Mar 31, 2021 03:48
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ahahaha https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.html
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Mar 31, 2021 03:49
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If leaks are to be believed, Trump's reaction to Q is just "Aren't they those guys who like me?" So he seems to think Qanons are just Trump superfans who really like his efforts to fight child trafficking, and no new information will change that first impression.
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Mar 31, 2021 03:51
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1377059721044230145 lmao gaetz trying to hold on to tucker like a liferaft and tucker getting upset and trying to kick him away if he's lost the cuck then he's hosed
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Mar 31, 2021 03:57
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Guess we know why he is thinking of not running again lol
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Mar 31, 2021 10:04
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Looking forward to endless "what about the democrats" as a response to republican pedophiles. Look at this, look at how instead, they're just like "well, actually" https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1377037499458060289?s=19 pop fly to McGillicutty fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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pseudanonymous posted:I know it's bad form to like, dehumanize people you don't like, but I'm not really sure Trump is what I would recognize as a person. I don't think he deals with information in the way that most people do, and essentially because of the recursive effects of how he gets fed information and who he chooses to act as gatekeepers for him, i think he's kind of close to like, a philosophical zombie. It's fashionable to give psychiatric diagnoses from afar, but there is something weird about his speech and mannerisms. Like he rambles from point to point in an uninhibited stream of consciousness that makes little sense. He can't keep his feelings or examine them, he blurts it out. It reminds me heavily of someone I used to work with who, it turned out, had been under heavy therapy and medication previously. He had this habit of just nonstop commentating his day and all the problems he faced or could face: oh no the sky looks cloudy why didn't I check the weather maybe it will rain and ruin the day do you want to do something else oh is that the bus maybe we've missed it what will we do then it's my fault are you angry with me But instead of depression and recriminations, Trump seems to be constantly telling himself everything is great and trying to convince you too. He is exactly as he appears.
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Mar 31, 2021 13:33
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A bit late, but I missed this story in this thread. https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1374690910445899778
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Mar 31, 2021 14:40
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Do q people think there’s anything topical that isn’t part of the conspiracy? Do they think literally everything is directly involved? When the cable goes out? The Mars landers? Matt Gaetz being a pedophile?
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Mar 31, 2021 14:54
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Do q people think there’s anything topical that isn’t part of the conspiracy? Do they think literally everything is directly involved? When the cable goes out? The Mars landers? Matt Gaetz being a pedophile? Schizophrenia is often characterized by an overzealousness in drawing connections where they don't exist. Not every QAnon follower has schizophrenia but the ones making these kinds of posts often do.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:00
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Do q people think there’s anything topical that isn’t part of the conspiracy? Do they think literally everything is directly involved? When the cable goes out? The Mars landers? Matt Gaetz being a pedophile? It's not just Q people. It's conspiracy nuts in general. Flat earthers think everything is full of secret messages that the earth is flat. It's the conspiracy theorist conundrum: The world is run by hyper-competent secret elites who are so powerful they can suppress the knowledge of their existence and control the course of international politics, scientific institutions, and religion. They are also so incredibly loving stupid that they constantly drop hints of their existence in popular cartoons.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:07
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:It's not just Q people. It's conspiracy nuts in general. Flat earthers think everything is full of secret messages that the earth is flat. sometimes they explain the latter by saying that they're honorbound by Illuminati rules to drop hints, or that dropping hints is a required part of the Satanic invocation, or the elites just like dangling tantalizing hints out there to taunt the public
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Mar 31, 2021 15:27
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Hillary cackling in glee as the mole children were actually in a container on a random ship without all the Illuminati codes all over it.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:30
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RagnarokAngel posted:Schizophrenia is often characterized by an overzealousness in drawing connections where they don't exist. Not every QAnon follower has schizophrenia but the ones making these kinds of posts often do. I have actually wondered if you could almost induce schizophrenic like thinking in people, in the same way that the right environemental triggers cause things like people speaking in tongues. Like is the Q movement just "coachin" people with maybe a vulnerability to schizophrenia into scizophernic thinking?
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Mar 31, 2021 15:38
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Schizophrenia is largely biological, so I wouldn't couch it in those terms as I think it cheapens a serious mental illness (not that I think that was your intent). Does it breed paranoia? Yeah almost certainly, but I don't think its provoking some latent thing in people, it's that people with Scizophrenia are drawn to conspiracy theories because it "makes sense" to their overactive connection drawing.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:52
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Dr Christmas posted:If leaks are to be believed, Trump's reaction to Q is just "Aren't they those guys who like me?" So he seems to think Qanons are just Trump superfans who really like his efforts to fight child trafficking, and no new information will change that first impression. Trump was questioned on this point by Savannah Guthrie of NBC, back in October 2020. His disingenuous answer revealed that he had a pretty good grasp of what Qanon types believe (if not exactly how they germinated in 4chan, shifted to 8chan/8kun, and then ran wild on mainstream social media). At 1:22 on this clip he blows the Satanist-pedophile dogwhistle hard enough to wake the mole children in their bunkers: https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1316897009421398016 Trump: “Let me just tell you what I do hear about it is they are very strongly against pedophilia and I agree with that. I mean, I do agree with that. And I agree with that quite strongly.” Guthrie: "But there's not a Satanic pedophile cult?" Trump: "I have no idea -- " Guthrie (incredulous): "You don't know that?" Trump: "I have no idea - and neither do you know that." 
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Carnival of Shrews posted:https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1316897009421398016 He's doing this thing that successful con-artists do all the time, which is to never directly say no. If you're a milquetoast republican who is still on the fence you just heard him say that Qanon isn't real and he's not working to take down a shadowy cabal of child-eating monsters, because he just admitted that he hasn't seen any but they could be out there If you're a qultist, he might as well have just winked at you personally, then cupped his hand away from the microphone and said "Don't worry, I got this"
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Mar 31, 2021 17:38
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Here's Nick Fuentes, guy who's been at "Protect the children" Q poo poo, saying pedophilia is cool because "age of consent is a feminist construct" https://twitter.com/achungus1235/status/1377273565414821889?s=19
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Mar 31, 2021 17:39
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Here's Nick Fuentes, guy who's been at "Protect the children" Q poo poo, saying pedophilia is cool because "age of consent is a feminist construct" Huh, he was on board with Q stuff? I thought his brand was full Edgemaster, making jokes about baking cookies in reference to the holocaust. Why would he get on board stuff that was for new agers, conspiracy theorists and mommy bloggers?
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Mar 31, 2021 17:53
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Grondoth posted:Huh, he was on board with Q stuff? I thought his brand was full Edgemaster, making jokes about baking cookies in reference to the holocaust. Why would he get on board stuff that was for new agers, conspiracy theorists and mommy bloggers? He knows coded anti-antisemitism when he sees it
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pseudanonymous posted:I know it's bad form to like, dehumanize people you don't like, but I'm not really sure Trump is what I would recognize as a person. I don't think he deals with information in the way that most people do, and essentially because of the recursive effects of how he gets fed information and who he chooses to act as gatekeepers for him, i think he's kind of close to like, a philosophical zombie. Like there's nothing going on there, the internal monologue consists of just like "uh nice tits" "drat i'd like a cheeseburger" "diet coke buton" gently caress yeah they love me" "gently caress that guy (who said anything negative about trump) he's a loser etc.." "uh nice tits" and just.. repeat endlessly. I'm cool with it. I mean, we all appreciate praise but not on this pathological level where anyone who doesn't offer it is a traitor to the country and a loser and all that poo poo. Trump is basically just the biggest rear end in a top hat boss you've ever had near as I can ascertain. Hes' just...immature I guess is the word. Comes off like a 13 year old bully and poo poo.
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The Chairman posted:sometimes they explain the latter by saying that they're honorbound by Illuminati rules to drop hints, or that dropping hints is a required part of the Satanic invocation, or the elites just like dangling tantalizing hints out there to taunt the public I like when it's because the Illuminati are basically double bluffing - they drop hints of their existence everywhere so that they can use it as proof they don't exist, and ridicule anyone who finds out "the truth". From Scooby Doo.
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Mar 31, 2021 18:10
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Grondoth posted:Huh, he was on board with Q stuff? I thought his brand was full Edgemaster, making jokes about baking cookies in reference to the holocaust. Why would he get on board stuff that was for new agers, conspiracy theorists and mommy bloggers? He, like all fascists, don't believe in anything beyond manipulation for the sake of power. Notice how "save the children" became "actually, consent varies"
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Mar 31, 2021 19:29
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To badly paraphrase an old joke:  : why are you reading that nazi newspaper? It's filled with nothing but antisemetic lies! : It's far more comforting, in our news, my people are being beaten in the streets, having our stores stolen, and are being driven out of the country. In their news, we control the media, we control the government, and we control the world!
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Mar 31, 2021 19:58
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If you're pushing an agenda and you can associate "we're saving children!" with your side, you're golden. You get a manyfold boost in the ease of recruitment and the passion with which supporters evangelize. Who doesn't want to think they are helping children? You see the effect in anti-abortion activists, and I've noticed it a ton in the anti-COVID-lockdown, suburban moms cohort. I suspect the Steve Bannons of the world are well aware of this, thus it's no surprise it keeps popping in now and more over ways in the conspiracy theory du jour.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Do q people think there’s anything topical that isn’t part of the conspiracy? Do they think literally everything is directly involved? When the cable goes out? The Mars landers? Matt Gaetz being a pedophile? Yes. And they discourage their friends and loved ones from paying any attention at all to the 'MSM.' oh, also, here's an article about that garden cult: https://www.inputmag.com/culture/tik-tok-commune-or-cat-eating-cult-garden-treeisalive The story is developing
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Mar 31, 2021 23:40
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Here's Nick Fuentes, guy who's been at "Protect the children" Q poo poo, saying pedophilia is cool because "age of consent is a feminist construct" We know it must take mountains of cognitive dissonance to buy into Q poo poo, but I'll never get how Qultists are able to square the circle of "anti-pedophile crusader posts exclusively on sites that are well known for hosting child porn". I could get it if Q at least posted in a winkingly-antagonistic way, like "hey you degenerates, I'm posting in this hive of villainy to tell you that Trump is going to take down all the pedophiles (Dems)". It's not like it would turn any potential Qultists off since anons love self-deprecating.
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It's not like modern society and the information overload of the internet and social media hasn't primed people to be doused in loads of contradictory information. We've never been good at teaching people who to listen to and there's way more people who you can listen to than before.
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Euphoriaphone posted:We know it must take mountains of cognitive dissonance to buy into Q poo poo, but I'll never get how Qultists are able to square the circle of "anti-pedophile crusader posts exclusively on sites that are well known for hosting child porn". Same reason they don't care that Trump was banging teens on Epstein Island. It's the Big Lie.
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Trump is essentially a void. I'm not really certain that he has an ego in the traditional sense. His obvious need for endless praise and acknowledgement aside, I don't actually see a lot of what I'd consider traditionally human motivation. Of course, the wealthy are almost entirely complete psychos so Trump might just be a slightly more extreme example of a pathology that the upper-class all share to one degree or another. Eat all of the rich, just to be sure.
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Apr 1, 2021 09:36
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I don't recommend eating them just in case they have prion diseases or something.
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Apr 1, 2021 10:02
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https://networkcontagion.us/wp-cont...os574KgeoJrdWso I haven't had a chance to pour through this yet, but it seems well-researched and rich with information
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Euphoriaphone posted:We know it must take mountains of cognitive dissonance to buy into Q poo poo, but I'll never get how Qultists are able to square the circle of "anti-pedophile crusader posts exclusively on sites that are well known for hosting child porn". Many of them dont actually know the source. Especially since Q has been basically radio silent since the election, now the entire thing is just self perpetuating.
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Q people have zero interest in preventing harm to children. I bet a lot of them are now even more comfortable with child sexual exploitation than they were at the start because of the increased likelihood that they’ve been exposed to it by 4chan or Jim Watkins while indulging in their role-play, or because they went looking for the Hillary cannibal video.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Here's Nick Fuentes, guy who's been at "Protect the children" Q poo poo, saying pedophilia is cool because "age of consent is a feminist construct" He's always been a patriarchal dipshit. By children he meant boys, because that way he gets to slip "the gays are pedos" in.
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