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former glory posted:The other day he pinned my queen when I spotted him queen odds and wasn't paying full attention. That raised an eyebrow a bit.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 21:50 |
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No, we probably did promotion or something, I just mean that he gets the idea that it can't move when he pins it on the king - just seems tricky. He had one tonight where he moved a bishop to hit queen and xray (?) to a rook, too bad about the pawn guarding the square, but cool to see anyway.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 02:21 |
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I got my first on-purpose in-live-game four move checkmate! Not puzzle, not correspondence, no unlimited time, not something I lucked into because my position was overwhelming, I saw the line and went for it aaaa! Sure it's pretty easy but I never ever saw these before. Normally I'd go to Analysis after the game and the computer was like "Yo you got forced checkmate here man, why care about some other piece?"
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 04:27 |
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What was your plan if he had just taken your Bishop?
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 12:47 |
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That would've been okay and honestly what I was expecting - my Bishop was only there because I was taking their light squared Bishop. I was originally just "Okay, force the bishop trade, open the file for my Queen, try to get Rooks involved by pushing pawns to open more files on that side. Oh they didn't take I should move my Bishop...back..................wait a minute....is this forced mate?? CAN I SEE A FORCED MATE" I felt like the climax of a sports film
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 12:59 |
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Aggro posted:What was your plan if he had just taken your Bishop? Qxa6+ Kb8 2. Qb7# Nice one, I also almost always miss checkmates, and the analysis afterwards is not very helpful. "You captured your opponent's rook? You fool. You imbecile. Could have had a forced mate in seven."
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Chamale posted:Qxa6+ Kb8 2. Qb7#[sic]
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 15:05 |
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Oh, now I see the question was from before the opponent moved b6. Yeah, that does seem like a problem.
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Aggro posted:What was your plan if he had just taken your Bishop? It's kind of interesting because white's up a pawn but has a slight issue with their rooks being inactive. One straightforward plan after bxc6 is to play Qc4, forcing Kb7, and then b4=>Rb1=>Rb3=>Ra3 targeting the weak a6 pawn. It's a bit caveman but you don't make any weaknesses and I don't think black's counter attacking with any speed. Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Hand Knit posted:It's kind of interesting because white's up a pawn but has a slight issue with their rooks being inactive. One straightforward plan after bxc6 is to play Qc4, forcing Kb7, and then b4=>Rb1=>Rb3=>Ra3 targeting the weak a6 pawn. It's a bit caveman but you don't make any weaknesses and I don't think black's counter attacking with any speed. It's interesting because I plugged it into Stockfish, who feels that White is clearly winning after bxc6. I would also anticipate Black playing Bxf4, forcing exf4, which I would think negates some of White's kingside pawn advantage. Surprisingly, Stockfish still thinks White is great after that move. Hell, it thinks White is great if White plays Bxd6 cxd6, restoring Black's pawn structure, so I don't know poo poo.
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Aggro posted:It's interesting because I plugged it into Stockfish, who feels that White is clearly winning after bxc6. White's up a pawn with no positional weaknesses, and black has a serious weakness. It would be surprising if a computer didn't find the position winning. But in practice it can become difficult, because the optimal moves are not very obvious and rook endgames can become very drawn very quickly. I went looking for a game where I managed something like this against a far superior opponent and couldn't find it so here's a pgn of me playing noted streamer Nemo Zhou back when she was like 8 years old or something. 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.g3 Bg7 7.Bg2 O-O 8.O-O Bd7 9.h3 Nc6 10.Nde2 a6 11.a4 Qc8 12.Kh2 Qc7 13.Nd5 Nxd5 14.exd5 Ne5 15.Nd4 b5 16.axb5 axb5 17.Rxa8 Rxa8 18.c3 Qb7 19.Re1 Bf8 20.b3 Be8 21.Qe2 b4 22.c4 Rc8 23.Bd2 Qb6 24.Be3 Qa5 25.f4 Nd7 26.Nc6 Qa3 27.Bd4 Qxb3 28.Na5 Qa4 29.Ra1 Qxa1 30.Bxa1 Nc5 31.Qb2 f6 32.Qxb4 Bd7 33.Bd4 1-0
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former glory posted:I might grab that one next. Either that or an endgames book, because I think Handknit made a lot of sense when he said the Soviet system starts from there since the game inevitably progresses to that point. Now that a player has to buy me dinner most of the time before they can fork my queen , I see those more often. I got back into the Tactics book and I'm really enjoying it now. He has an engaging style and his tests are really well thought out. Yeah endgames are theoretically the heart of the game. I originally started learning chess from such books (German tradition is very similar to Russian in this respect), and gave up on playing chess before playing more then 10 games several times. Then I just did the lichess tutorial and started playing games and actually got interested in chess. Still the only physical chessbook I own is tarasch's, mostly because it goes for 5€ for a hardcover due to being out of copyright. It goes endgame, middlegame, openings in order. And by starting with engames I mean that the section on winning Q vs R is followed by the line: The figure that looks like a horse is called a knight and moves like this...
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 20:41 |
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I learned endgames as a kid and never got really into chess. Now I have a favourite opening, and know how I like to respond to the common White openings, so I enjoy the game a lot more. My objective still tends to be entering the endgame with a small advantage so that I can promote a pawn first. I'm still not a good player, though.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 23:55 |
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I have a small question from a recent game. I got this position as black: I played 7 ... Nxe4, figuring, hey, free pawn, and a central square for my knight. Stockfish says that's an inaccuracy, and strongly recommends 7. ... b5 instead, forcing the bishop to retreat (8. Bb3 Nd4). I guess my problem is that I don't really understand why b5 is so much better than Nxe4. Is it just that it breaks the pin, and also restricts the white bishop? The engine line after Nxe4 is 8. Nb4 Bd7 9. Nxc6 Bxc6 10. Bxc6 bxc6, although that's not what my opponent did. (They blundered their queen on move 14 and resigned. This was uh not a high level game).
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rollick posted:I have a small question from a recent game. 7... b5 looks really good to me, because 1) you are gaining space on the queenside 2) you are forcing white to waste time moving the same bishop over and over 3) after 8. Bb3 Nd4 you can force an exchange of that bishop for your knight, and doubling white's pawns at the same time. Now white has nothing to show for all those moves spent moving that bishop around, and black has the bishop pair. on the other hand, 7... Nxe4 wins a pawn, but white gets some compensation because your pawn on e5 is pinned to the king after white plays Re1 to chase away the knight. Maybe later white can play d4 and take over the center while your king is trying to get castled?
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Helianthus Annuus posted:7... b5 looks really good to me, because Ahh ok, that does make a lot of sense, thanks. It would be nice if engines could explain positional or strategic things that way, but I guess it's almost impossible.
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rollick posted:Ahh ok, that does make a lot of sense, thanks. It would be nice if engines could explain positional or strategic things that way, but I guess it's almost impossible. If the interface allows it you can play around with variations, trying out the ideas that seem intuitive to you. It's not foolproof, but it can help with figuring out which ideas do and do not work. For the position you showed, I wouldn't worry too much about the faults with the Nxe4 line because they're a bit subtle. The key thing to understand with the b5 line is that you've got this pin on f3 which white can't break, so you'd love to add an attacker and wreck white's pawn structure. As an aside, black would probably prefer to take on f3 with the knight and keep the bishop (which will go to h3) rather than take with the bishop and keep the knight. This isn't always going to be true, but it is here because (1) white's development is so bad and (2) white can kick the knight fairly easily with c3.
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# ? Apr 1, 2021 19:09 |
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I was a little proud of this one but the analysis dulled that a bit! I found a combo at the end that would have won a lot of material, but when he responded in an expected way, it turned into a fancy mate in 3: 1. e4 g6 2. d4 d6 3. f4 Bg7 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bd3 Qd7 6. h3 Na6 7. a3 Qe6 8. f5 Qd7 9. O-O gxf5 10. Nc3 fxe4 11. Nxe4 Qc6 12. Re1 Be6 13. b4 b5 14. Qd2 O-O 15. Neg5 h6 16. Nxe6 fxe6 17. Rxe6 Qd7 18. Bf5 Nd5 19. Nh4 Qe8 20. Bb2 Qf7 21. Rf1 Qh5 22. Qf2 Bf6 23. g3 Rf7 24. Ng6 Rg7 25. Kh2 Qg5 26. Bc1 Qh5 27. g4 Bxd4 28. gxh5 Bxf2 29. Rxf2 Rc8 30. Rxd6 cxd6 31. Bxc8 Nb6 32. Rf8+ Kh7 33. Rh8# I was originally thinking after Rxd6 ... (c or e) x d6 Bxc8, that he would have done Nb8 for the obvious save and I'd fork Ne6 ... Kh8 and work from there.
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# ? Apr 1, 2021 21:35 |
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I've reached a point where I want to start reading books to improve at chess. Is it possible to learn a distinctive style, or are top chess books all going to recommend similar play? I really enjoy aggressively exchanging material to disrupt my opponent's pawn structure, and then winning the endgame, but I've read an article saying that this is how weak players play.
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Chamale posted:I've reached a point where I want to start reading books to improve at chess. Is it possible to learn a distinctive style, or are top chess books all going to recommend similar play? I really enjoy aggressively exchanging material to disrupt my opponent's pawn structure, and then winning the endgame, but I've read an article saying that this is how weak players play. Lucky for you, everyone is weak. There are definitely distinctive ways to play. Attacking, positional, tactical, strategic. There are also sorts of positions one prefers: open, semi-open, and closed. For the latter question, you can try to pick openings that suit you, but for the latter I don't know the material so well.
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Today is a Bad Day, 1 win 12 losses aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Hand Knit posted:If the interface allows it you can play around with variations, trying out the ideas that seem intuitive to you. It's not foolproof, but it can help with figuring out which ideas do and do not work. For the position you showed, I wouldn't worry too much about the faults with the Nxe4 line because they're a bit subtle. The key thing to understand with the b5 line is that you've got this pin on f3 which white can't break, so you'd love to add an attacker and wreck white's pawn structure. , that's useful. I did play around with different variations, and I can see better where the weaknesses are. I think at my level those subtle lines are not as big a factor as the big blunders from either side. Artelier posted:Today is a Bad Day, 1 win 12 losses aaaaaaaaaaaaaa 13 games in a day seems like a lot to me! Is that blitz? I recently decided to stop thinking about openings and just play e4 e5 / d4 d5 games as much as I can. I'm learning more about different lines and middle game positions, but it's tanked my rating in the short term. Just gotta learn to love losing.
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rollick posted:13 games in a day seems like a lot to me! Is that blitz? Yeah, it's Blitz. Work's been erratic for quite a while so I normally squeeze in a game or two in between small tasks, so 3+2 it is. Sometimes I play correspondence with friends for long, thought out games. Just frustrating sometimes where one day, like say, yesterday, my brain was on all cylinders and I was seeing all the moves, all the lines, all the threats, at least for my rating level. Today my brain is like HUR DUR GIVE OPPONENT OBVIOUS MATE IN TWO WHEN THEY HAD NO ATTACKING CHANCES In this example, I wasn't even under time pressure. I had like 2 minutes left, I was up material, my brain just...refused to see good moves. Why brain whyyyy Artelier fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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rollick posted:, that's useful. I did play around with different variations, and I can see better where the weaknesses are. I think at my level those subtle lines are not as big a factor as the big blunders from either side. you are like a little baby. ive played 49 bullet games so far in april. my longest winning streak was 16 games in a row over 1 hour and 15 minutes on january 6. (that whole day i went 22-7-2)
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 11:36 |
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Haha drat I don't think my trackpad can even move fast enough for bullet. My routine the last few weeks is play 15+10, then annotate my thinking in SCID, then make flashcards out of book moves that are new to me, and any tactics I missed. So like each game is a 30-60 minute investment.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 11:55 |
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i was just black: 1. e4 g5 2. Nf3 g4 3. Nd4 c5 4. Nb3 Nc6 5. Qxg4 d5 6. exd5 Bxg4 7. Nxc5 Nd4 8. Nxb7 and i missed the smothered mate Nxc2# i can’t believe it
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Hand Knit posted:Lucky for you, everyone is weak. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to read up on different styles and start studying something that feels right to me. Here's a funny way to win: I started with the Sicilian defense, but after four moves our positions were identical. I decided to start simply playing the mirror image of my opponent's moves, and he resigned! Maybe he got bored.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 16:55 |
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If someone would rather not play chess at all rather than play a (pseudo) symmetrical English... I can respect that.
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 16:58 |
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Helianthus Annuus posted:7... b5 looks really good to me, because I struggle with #1 a lot when playing. Whether I'm taking space with a push, or creating weakness. I find that really challenging in the heat of the moment.
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Hand Knit posted:If someone would rather not play chess at all rather than play a (pseudo) symmetrical English... I can respect that. whenever people play the english against me i just mirror them for an absurdly long time
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# ? Apr 2, 2021 23:22 |
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Carlsen streaming on Twitch right now for the first time I think (e: no I'm wrong, it's just rare that he does): https://twitch.tv/maskenissen
rollick fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Chamale posted:
Just did mirrored my opponent as good while and got to here. I checkmated him but he was also down on time which id like to attribute to him thinking “why tf is this guy just morriorng me”
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# ? Apr 3, 2021 23:16 |
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My very young son has gotten into chess because he sees dad getting into chess. Today on chesskid.com he swindled his way to his first win against a human by flagging his opponent who was up +15 in material but couldn't quite figure out how to checkmate.
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Captain von Trapp posted:My very young son has gotten into chess because he sees dad getting into chess. Today on chesskid.com he swindled his way to his first win against a human by flagging his opponent who was up +15 in material but couldn't quite figure out how to checkmate.
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# ? Apr 4, 2021 04:51 |
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Not proud of this, but I won a game with a4 b4 c4 d4 e4 f4 https://lichess.org/Et8NHDzM
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 19:07 |
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Qf2# just sitting there for days but I guess black wasn't feeling it.
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# ? Apr 7, 2021 19:51 |
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Just wondering: what kind of scores can people get on the Lichess coordinate trainer? I've been doing it off and on for a while and find it hard to break 25, even using my finger on a tablet. https://lichess.org/training/coordinate
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# ? Apr 10, 2021 03:31 |
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Tried a few times with a mouse and my highest was 24. Did noticeably worse on black.
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https://www.chess.com/game/daily/320589038 “Well, we’ve tried every device and you still won’t resign—every device, that is, except this little baby we simply call ‘Alekhine's Thingamajig.’”
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This was a fun checkmate! (I refuse to look at Analysis and see how many moves quicker could I have forced it)
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