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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Pead posted:

Years ago at my college library there was a large hazardous chemical spill in a storage space behind the building and the whole area got evacuated. While the firemen in full chemical hazmat gear were clearing the building, multiple people refused to leave because they had to finish their term papers and had to be escorted out by the police. It was incredibly stupid.

On the other hand, sometimes the stupidity runs in both directions and you get a prof like this:

https://twitter.com/NMBCanada/status/1372621837797101569

(he was removed from the course and the student got their deferral)

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univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Reminds me of a student we had in the Canadian Armed Forces who had to withdraw because the internet they were given access to was incredibly expensive (like $20 a minute kind of thing) and had terrible speed and reliability. He was further unable to go through the normal withdrawal procedure because, again, infrastructure sucked for this. He finally got the registrar on the phone, and while they weren't helpful at first they changed their tune when they heard explosions in the background and did whatever they had to do to get him to withdraw.

Pead
May 31, 2001
Nap Ghost

haveblue posted:

On the other hand, sometimes the stupidity runs in both directions and you get a prof like this:

https://twitter.com/NMBCanada/status/1372621837797101569

(he was removed from the course and the student got their deferral)

Yeah, that dude is a fresh Math PH.D. grad in his first faculty gig, which is a surefire recipe for unbearable rear end in a top hat

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Not really an OSHA gently caress-up or anything, just wanted to talk about some real-world day-to-day stuff. One of our customers is a state utility and as part of their safety culture whenever a close-call HPI (High Potential Incident) occurs in the field they send out a company-wide bulletin the following day with a preliminary run-down of the incident.

I see about 1-2 of these bulletins each month and they range from someone tripping in a warehouse to near-death incidents. That said there are two common themes: inadvertent exposure to raw sewerage and inadvertent discharge of buried high-voltage cables.

Sewerage exposure poses some unusual hazards which aren't always immediately obvious. In previous close-call incidents where raw sewerage lines have been accidentally pierced during excavation workers who failed to immediately evacuate the area have ended up being incapacitated by the noxious fumes causing them to collapse and, in one case, almost fall into the excavated pit. Were that to happen then the situation could potentially devolve even further if workers attempted a rescue, similar to incidents involving confined spaces or the family-of-five who drowned in septic tank while trying to rescue each other.

Shorting and discharge of high-voltage cables during excavation is another alarmingly frequent hazard. In a close-call incident from only a week ago a worker was almost fatally electrocuted when they were using a crowbar to clear dirt from around ~415V cable that had been exposed during excavation. Unbeknownst to the worker the insulation on the underside of the cable had degraded significantly to the point that electricity could jump from the cable to the crowbar. The arc caused a bright flash and sent the crowbar flying from the workers hand. Thankfully the worker was wearing full PPE and didn't sustain any injuries.

The interesting thing is that in these close-call HPIs involving excavation the workers involved followed protocol to the letter including dialling before digging and mapping of all utilities. Just goes to show that you can never be too careful and that it's important that close-calls are highlighted and fully investigated so that next time they can be avoided altogether.

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Cartoon Man posted:

https://i.imgur.com/OTOYASY.gifv

I don’t have the rhythm or efficiency for something like this. Plus my back would be wrecked after a day on the job.

Funny thing. I used to do weeding at a pot yard nursery when I was in college. You spend most of the day bent over like that.

When I started, I complained that my back hurt. The guy I was working with said, "Don't worry about it. Pretty soon the backs of your knees will hurt so bad you'll forget about your back."

He was right. Your back gets used to it. Your knees don't ever get used to it.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Mr. Nice! posted:

There are a handful of situations where you do push a small amount power over coax. Typically they're used for powering an OTA antenna or a satellite dish receiver. This looks like something shorted somehow to some large amount of power.

There are devices for converting PoE to PoC. There is also a standard for doing PoC for HD Analog security cameras. That maxes out at 48v.

Some Guy From NY
Dec 11, 2007
holy poo poo.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/01/chinese-worker-commits-suicide-by-jumping-into-furnace-report/

Shocking video captured the moment a despondent steel factory worker in China took his own life by jumping into a blast furnace after reportedly losing just over $9,000 in the stock market.

Wang Long, 34, an employee at Baogang Group in Baotou, Inner Monglia, is seen removing his safety helmet and gloves, placing them on the ground as he hesitates before hurling himself into the molten steel, the South China Morning Post reported.

“He just disappeared instantly,” a worker who saw the surveillance footage told the Xiaoxiang Morning Post.


Video is not gory but drat. what a way to go.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
poo poo, that's grim. Probably a somewhat slow death as well; despite what people think you don't just vaporize instantly if you fall into molten metal/lava.

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
Steel is dense too, sure you’d burn but i would think you float while you burn

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
drat, that's crazy. Definitely something where you should take a beat and think about if it's really worth killing yourself over. Like that one guy who was messing around with stocks during the height of gamestop going nuts. He got an email from robinhood saying he owned them over a hundred thousand dollars to cover one of his options or whatever stock term it was. He freaked out, couldn't get a hold of customer service and killed himself. Then they sent a new email the next day saying "nevermind, one of your automatic things happened and covered the cost, you're good."

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Some Guy From NY posted:

holy poo poo.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/01/chinese-worker-commits-suicide-by-jumping-into-furnace-report/

Shocking video captured the moment a despondent steel factory worker in China took his own life by jumping into a blast furnace after reportedly losing just over $9,000 in the stock market.

Wang Long, 34, an employee at Baogang Group in Baotou, Inner Monglia, is seen removing his safety helmet and gloves, placing them on the ground as he hesitates before hurling himself into the molten steel, the South China Morning Post reported.

“He just disappeared instantly,” a worker who saw the surveillance footage told the Xiaoxiang Morning Post.


Video is not gory but drat. what a way to go.

His death is metal as gently caress

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

His death is metal as gently caress

What else do you expect from Wang Long :megadeath:

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

EIDE Van Hagar posted:

Steel is dense too, sure you’d burn but i would think you float while you burn

Lava too. The scene at the end of Return of the King where Gollum sinks and the ring floats? Naaah.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Gollum had a heavy blackened soul and the ring was magic

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The molten gold effects in The Hobbit were incredibly bad.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Platystemon posted:

The molten gold effects in The Hobbit were incredibly bad.

See watching the Hobbit was the obvious mistake here.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

nomad2020 posted:



It's fine.

Top left is part tomato though.

During my one visit to Action Park when it was around, I rode the Alpine Slide a few times. Basically the same idea - you had a 1-person sled with a lever on it, rode up a ski lift, picked the beginner, normal, or advanced track, sat it down, and off you go.

I saw multiple people who got flung out of their sleds and wound up with friction burns along both arms. Apparently it was a super common event.



Some of them were people who stopped or were going slow and got hit by someone going full-speed behind them. They sent people down without much of a delay between them.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

His death is metal as gently caress

Literally. It was molten steel.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Platystemon posted:

The molten gold effects in The Hobbit movies were incredibly bad.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Platystemon posted:

It’s good, but I think it would be funnier if there were no coats and other objects to betray the motion of the room.
Yeah, but having coats dangle across a radiator is also OSHA.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


There is no way he survived that for any appreciable time, it's an absolute loving shitload of thermal energy stored in a shitload of mass, and his brain is a fraction of an inch from the molten fuckin steel, it must've cooked to nonfunctionality and then steam exploded within like a second. I know, Leidenfrost, but at this kind of titanic overmatch that can't be doing that much.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Yeah I'm having trouble imagining this scenario as anything other than "150lb steam explosion"

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


He went missing in the night and it was a while before anyone found him, so that steel probably got turned into human enriched I-beams or something

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

FuturePastNow posted:

He went missing in the night and it was a while before anyone found him, so that steel probably got turned into human enriched I-beams or something

That's a hell of a way to end up haunting a building.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

FuturePastNow posted:

He went missing in the night and it was a while before anyone found him, so that steel probably got turned into human enriched I-beams or something

Wouldn't having that much foreign material contaminate the steel affect the batch?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Old urban legend around these parts was that you used to bury bodies under pilings as sacrifices to ensure the strength of the structure

Sounds pretty OSHA to me, won't the ground destabilise as the body rots?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Z the IVth posted:

Old urban legend around these parts was that you used to bury bodies under pilings as sacrifices to ensure the strength of the structure

Sounds pretty OSHA to me, won't the ground destabilise as the body rots?

There's a bridge in Scotland where one of the arches is filled in to combine two columns because a horse fell into one of the columns and the eventual void would weaken it.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cojawfee posted:

There's a bridge in Scotland where one of the arches is filled in to combine two columns because a horse fell into one of the columns and the eventual void would weaken it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_nan_Uamh_Viaduct

CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Wouldn't having that much foreign material contaminate the steel affect the batch?

Some quick googling seems to suggest the main contribution would be about 14.5 kg of carbon. In multiple tons of steel it is unlikely to have much of an effect. My money is on that batch getting used.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

CleverHans posted:

Some quick googling seems to suggest the main contribution would be about 14.5 kg of carbon. In multiple tons of steel it is unlikely to have much of an effect. My money is on that batch getting used.

It being China, I'd stay away from Harbor Freight stuff for a while

JackSplater
Nov 20, 2014

Metal Coat? It's already active?!
Today's warehouse OSHA:

A coworker calls me over to take a look at something. I get to his trailer, and it looks like someone dropped a bag of flour in the air. White and cloudy, but the floor looked clear. That's warning sign one.

He mentions something about moving a skid and hazmat. His english isn't great, but I get the gist of it - he thinks it might be a hazmat spill. Okay, I look at his paperwork. Has an order of hazmat, hydrochloric acid 31.45%. Warning sign two.

I, being an idiot, walk into the trailer to take a better look at it. About halfway through the air clears drastically, and I look down at a wet spot on the floor that's smoking. Uh oh. Look at the pallet beside it, sure enough, big old corrosive stickers on it. I walk back out of the trailer and tell him to go get the supervisor because gently caress dealing with that myself.

Not only did we not have any hazmat cleanup bins (and we haven't for months), we also had nothing on hand to neutralize an acid spill, and the only thing we had was out standard go-to for any liquid spills (It's some product that reminds me vaguely of cat litter, and a quick google says it might be Qualisorb.) I didn't take part in the cleanup at all, but the supervisor and warehouse manager both did, and knowing the two of them I'd bet that it definitely wasn't cleaned up properly. I also learned today that wood smokes when it's being eaten by acid.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




It's China. You bet your rear end his remains are already shaped into hammers and counterfeit steel balldos already.

CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

It being China, I'd stay away from Harbor Freight Fright stuff for a while

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Very large shipboard crane undergoing stress testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvFVjsieiw

Some injured, no dead. Impressive to see the structure flop like that.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Wouldn't having that much foreign material contaminate the steel affect the batch?

I think there was one accident like that one where the steel had a little more calcium than usual, but I don't remember if they still used it normally.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I think its like every slightly morbid steel post grad says they are going to do the analysis on a suicide steel batch, all of them arguing if and how it might homogenize.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

Not from human bodies, but there was that one time they dumped a bunch of Cobalt-60 (radioactive) into a bunch of steel and it ended up being used to build apartment buildings in Taiwan.

The results were... interesting; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2477708/

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

aphid_licker posted:

There is no way he survived that for any appreciable time, it's an absolute loving shitload of thermal energy stored in a shitload of mass, and his brain is a fraction of an inch from the molten fuckin steel, it must've cooked to nonfunctionality and then steam exploded within like a second. I know, Leidenfrost, but at this kind of titanic overmatch that can't be doing that much.

FuturePastNow posted:

He went missing in the night and it was a while before anyone found him, so that steel probably got turned into human enriched I-beams or something

People have survived falling into molten lava and molten metals, so if there's enough time to rescue someone, there's enough time for the few seconds you're still alive to seem like your being roasted for an eternity.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

People have survived falling into molten lava and molten metals

I'm going to need to see some of these reports

Like, "volcanologist tripped over and put his lava-suited hand through the crust of a semi-solidified Pāhoehoe flow and survived" is one thing, "fell bodily into a completely liquid lava pool and survived" is something completely different.

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rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

He didn't fall into the molten metal he fell into the thing that was giving off enough heat to make molten metal

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