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MinionOfCthulhu posted:I don’t see a thread about the game in the mobile sub forum but the mobile game Dragon Quest of the Stars is shutting down after a little over a year release in the west. Lotta angry whales online who sunk gatcha-size funds into this only to learn it’s going down a month or two after the big one year celebration. The fact that a Dragon Quest gacha game is (presumably) unprofitable enough that it's getting shut down sure is damning. Feels like even a mediocre game would've had enough momentum by virtue of name alone!
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Srice posted:The fact that a Dragon Quest gacha game is (presumably) unprofitable enough that it's getting shut down sure is damning. Feels like even a mediocre game would've had enough momentum by virtue of name alone! The game itself was basically a menu clicker stuck in 2015.
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Mar 31, 2021 14:08
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Why can't they just make a Dragon Quest Battle of Wesnoth type game for mobile and sell it for $15 or something? Why does every mobile game have to be this ftp gacha bullshit
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Mar 31, 2021 16:01
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Flavius Aetass posted:Why can't they just make a Dragon Quest Battle of Wesnoth type game for mobile and sell it for $15 or something? Why does every mobile game have to be this ftp gacha bullshit 
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Mar 31, 2021 16:14
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Flavius Aetass posted:Why can't they just make a Dragon Quest Battle of Wesnoth type game for mobile and sell it for $15 or something? Why does every mobile game have to be this ftp gacha bullshit If something like DQ Tact existed in non-gacha form I'd pay full fuckin price for it
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Mar 31, 2021 16:36
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Harrow posted:If something like DQ Tact existed in non-gacha form I'd pay full fuckin price for it Yeah Tact owns. I'm not going to spend money on it but it's held my attention since release. I also REALLY like tactics games so even if it were a bad game I'd probably play it anyway.
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Mar 31, 2021 16:43
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:I don’t see a thread about the game in the mobile sub forum but the mobile game Dragon Quest of the Stars is shutting down after a little over a year release in the west. Lotta angry whales online who sunk gatcha-size funds into this only to learn it’s going down a month or two after the big one year celebration. Sadly not surprising. They launched what, 6-7 years later in global using gacha and gameplay mechanics that everyone else has long since moved on from? Gating stuff like faster game speed behind a loving subscription is insanity (DQ Tact does this too) and the game just wasn't friendly to casual gameplay or even occasional spending. You either had to go hard or go away. Srice posted:The fact that a Dragon Quest gacha game is (presumably) unprofitable enough that it's getting shut down sure is damning. Feels like even a mediocre game would've had enough momentum by virtue of name alone! Pretty sure this is just the global version, though DQ Tact (and their Pokemon Go clone) are much better options for the Japanese market too so  If DQotS came out globally 6 months after it launched in Japan that'd have been one thing but their global launch was like the equivalent of taking 2014 Puzzle & Dragon and releasing it today. Harrow posted:If something like DQ Tact existed in non-gacha form I'd pay full fuckin price for it I've wanted a Dragon Quest Tactics game ever since FFT came out on the PSX and while DQ Tact is fine for casual play it'll probably fail too because the gacha is unforgiving. I was lucky and pulled Zoma on a single 10-pull but you need dupes to max a character's stats and so on. It has some fun gameplay though and the battle roads having limited units is very cool (but also pushes the gacha on you). The worst part is, their mobile games struggling will probably make them decide to not release the next DQM game outside of Japan. I hope Tact at least stays afloat but it doesn't really make me feel like spending. With SaGa Re:Universe I occasionally get the 30 day login build at least (and that game dumps tons of free currency/pulls on you too).
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Mar 31, 2021 16:54
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Evil Fluffy posted:The worst part is, their mobile games struggling will probably make them decide to not release the next DQM game outside of Japan. 
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Flavius Aetass posted:Why can't they just make a Dragon Quest Battle of Wesnoth type game for mobile and sell it for $15 or something? Why does every mobile game have to be this ftp gacha bullshit Because they can make more money if they manage to hook in a bunch of gambling addicts.
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Flavius Aetass posted:Why can't they just make a Dragon Quest Battle of Wesnoth type game for mobile and sell it for $15 or something? Why does every mobile game have to be this ftp gacha bullshit Nintendo tried making a mobile game you pay for once and then their Fire Emblem gacha outperformed it a bazillion times over 
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Mar 31, 2021 18:22
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I super wish the Pokemon Picross model took over. It was F2P with its own currency system that unlocked more puzzles, but once you've bought an accumulated $30 worth of the gems it just gives you unlimited and you can't give the game anymore money.
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Mar 31, 2021 18:57
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Detective No. 27 posted:I super wish the Pokemon Picross model took over. It was F2P with its own currency system that unlocked more puzzles, but once you've bought an accumulated $30 worth of the gems it just gives you unlimited and you can't give the game anymore money.
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Srice posted:Nintendo tried making a mobile game you pay for once and then their Fire Emblem gacha outperformed it a bazillion times over The weirdest part of the Super Mario Run thing was that every article I saw about it at the time included some armchair marketing guru opinion from the reviewer about how this game was dumb because Nintendo wasn't monetizing it enough and how they were squandering opportunities to make a mint. In console/PC games you get a lot of critical reviews that boil it down to "Is this game worth paying $60 for?" and in mobile game spaces you get... whatever the opposite of that is.
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Mar 31, 2021 19:19
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Why would mobile do this and not the established pattern that we already didn't get DQM: Terry's Wonderland Because while we didn't get Terry's Wonderland we did get DQXI (eventually) which sold really well so hopefully SE takes the hint and gives us DQM and then maybe a remake of Joker 3 on the Switch or something.
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Mar 31, 2021 19:31
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Evil Fluffy posted:I've wanted a Dragon Quest Tactics game ever since FFT came out on the PSX and while DQ Tact is fine for casual play it'll probably fail too because the gacha is unforgiving. I was lucky and pulled Zoma on a single 10-pull but you need dupes to max a character's stats and so on. It has some fun gameplay though and the battle roads having limited units is very cool (but also pushes the gacha on you). Yeah, I think if there was a Dragon Quest Monsters Tactics game I would slam preorder on that in a second. As it is, DQ Tact is okay to screw around with on my phone while I'm doing something else, but a monsters-themed DQ Tactics RPG would be incredible as a full game.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Because while we didn't get Terry's Wonderland we did get DQXI (eventually) which sold really well so hopefully SE takes the hint and gives us DQM and then maybe a remake of Joker 3 on the Switch or something. I straight up bought a Japanese 3ds for the DQM2 remake and played it all the way up to the deep endgame despite knowing next to no Japanese. I love the DQM series and have no idea why they didn't catch on harder beyond having next to no marketing. I'd loving kill for a switch port of the games we missed, or at least the Monster game that's currently in development hell
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Deki posted:I'd loving kill for a switch port of the games we missed, or at least the Monster game that's currently in development hell Same. The Monsters series is actually what got me interested in Dragon Quest, all the way back with the first Joker game. Would absolutely love official releases for Joker 3, etc.
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The first Dragon Warrior Monsters was my introduction to the franchise. I hate that they're just not interested in bringing it over to the states anymore.
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It's such a shame, because the Monsters series (imo at least) offers such a fresh take on the whole "catch monsters and use them in battle" genre.
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Hey friends, who would you say was probably your favorite Dragon Quest Demon King.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Hey friends, who would you say was probably your favorite Dragon Quest Demon King. Builders 2 Malroth
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Rhapthorne, probably.
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OK so I think I might want to try a DQ Builders game. A friend/neighbor of mine said he loved DQB and played it a ton but according to him he's not interested in DQB2 because it's not meaningfully different from DQB1 and doesn't add enough extra stuff for the game to be worth it to him. Should I jump to DQB2 or should I just play DQB1 and skip DQB2 or should I play both?
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MonsterEnvy posted:Hey friends, who would you say was probably your favorite Dragon Quest Demon King. Nimzo and Rhapthorne are thicc boys.
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Elephant Ambush posted:OK so I think I might want to try a DQ Builders game. A friend/neighbor of mine said he loved DQB and played it a ton but according to him he's not interested in DQB2 because it's not meaningfully different from DQB1 and doesn't add enough extra stuff for the game to be worth it to him. 2 is pretty much better in every way, but I still think 1 is worth a playthrough
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Elephant Ambush posted:OK so I think I might want to try a DQ Builders game. A friend/neighbor of mine said he loved DQB and played it a ton but according to him he's not interested in DQB2 because it's not meaningfully different from DQB1 and doesn't add enough extra stuff for the game to be worth it to him. To put it simply, Your friend is loving wrong. DQB2 doesn't require any knowledge of the first game beyond a couple in-jokes. It's worth it for the quality of life changes alone, to say nothing of having decent writing and plenty of building improvements. (Having upgrades to wipe out 3x3 and 5x5 chunks of land in one hit is so huge, it's hard to go to other building games now) DQB1 is a decent game in its own right though, to be clear.
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Yeah, I played DQB1 and enjoyed it, but that's partially because I like DQ1, but more because it's a charming game, obviously crafted with love of DQ. I've yet to play DQB2 yet, but I imagine the ties to DQ2 help in a similar fashion.
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Luceo posted:Yeah, I played DQB1 and enjoyed it, but that's partially because I like DQ1, but more because it's a charming game, obviously crafted with love of DQ. I've yet to play DQB2 yet, but I imagine the ties to DQ2 help in a similar fashion. You are correct, it's supposed to take place after the events of DQ2, with all the questions that raises.
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I really hope if/when they announced DQB3 that it's set in the world you leave behind and you're fixing all the damage caused by Baramos and his minions before he was defeated and the chaos of Zoma announcing himself and the hero effectively disappearing right afterwards and never coming back.
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The DQB3 builder will be one of the contractors hired to build xxxx-burg/xxxx-town and was directly responsible for jailing the merchant in charge of that town.
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Sadly, with the director gone I don't know if we ever will get dqb3. I hope in my heart of hearts that we do, but... Well, capitalism, I guess.
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Deki posted:I straight up bought a Japanese 3ds for the DQM2 remake and played it all the way up to the deep endgame despite knowing next to no Japanese. I love the DQM series and have no idea why they didn't catch on harder beyond having next to no marketing. There's a full fan translation out for this now.
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Not an april fool's prank either. Incredible news, I had lost hope it would ever get translated.
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bentacos posted:2 is pretty much better in every way, but I still think 1 is worth a playthrough Drakenel posted:To put it simply, Your friend is loving wrong. DQB2 doesn't require any knowledge of the first game beyond a couple in-jokes. It's worth it for the quality of life changes alone, to say nothing of having decent writing and plenty of building improvements. (Having upgrades to wipe out 3x3 and 5x5 chunks of land in one hit is so huge, it's hard to go to other building games now) Thanks. I'll start with DQB1 because I still genuinely like DQ1 to this day. I play it once a year or so because I can finish it quickly and it's fun to try to optimize my route (I am not a speedrunner). Anyway I never actually finished DQ2 so I'll try DQB1, then play DQ2 and then DQB2 should make more sense. I like having the story background between games.
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Fwiw I've never come close to beating either dq1 or 2 and had a blast with both builders games The second is definitely better than the first and has a stupid large demo with progress that carries over
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I'm pretty sure 2's demo save carries over too. It's what sold a friend on the game.
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started DQ11S, took the precaution this time of installing the mod that swaps out all its music with DQ8's too bad the fight themes are awful across both games e: god i despise this man's music. disney's fantasia with a frontal lobotomy. a brass section that sounds like chronic flatulence. these loving piccolos Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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spacebard posted:There's a full fan translation out for this now. Interesting! I have no idea how I'm gonna patch my 3ds cart but I'll have to figure that out .
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Detective No. 27 posted:I'm pretty sure 2's demo save carries over too. It's what sold a friend on the game. Yep, it does. Decently lengthy demo, too. Deki posted:Interesting! You can sideload patches on the fly with Luma CFW I think, but failing that you can dump the cart and patch it or just run it in Citra.
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