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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


isn't this admitting that you care about drugs more than your family

which given that your family is the bidens, fair

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Insanite
Aug 30, 2005


hahahaha no loving way

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1377459488320593921?s=20

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

CountryMatters posted:

All subforums should be allowed to have mock threads. If D&D wanted to mock CSPAM for being too communist or something I doubt there would be a bunch of CSPAM posters spamming reports and pissing their pants like the D&D posters do

fyad has one of these and the worst that happens is some too online weirdo who obsessively namesearches goes in to defend their posting honor, which is about the biggest gift anyone could give fyad

mock threads are fine and funny and if people don't like them they shouldn't post as much dumb poo poo

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

joepinetree posted:

You keep talking about debate, as if the issue is that c-spam posters are simply too outraged to debate civilly. But that is not at all what happens.

What happens is that a set of very loud voices have created a set of incredibly nonsensical rules that make pushing any sort of viewpoint that is not the D&D hivemind consensus essentially an invitation for probation.

For example, it is against the rules of D&D to point out that the people who object to the term concentration camps now were frequently using the term when defending voting for Biden. Pointing out that someone has shifted goal posts is probatable because it is "meta." It is not against the rules, however, to accuse a leftist of insincerity and say that they are only "trying to own the libs." And here we are, discussing if, after being banned in D&D, we should ban mentioning the same thing here.

Is there any reasonable explanation for that? Is there literally any other topic where this sort of rule would be allowed? If a celtics fan in SAS suddenly decides to claim to be a lakers fan, would it also be verboten to point out the sudden shift?

We keep acting as if it is a matter of debate decorum, of being willing to engage and of providing references rather than calling people out, but it really isn't. It is not unlike the Tara Reade situation, or a number of other ones, where loud voices in D&D manage to get some insane rules in place to avoid debate.

also the d&d mods are, for some mysterious reason, vehemently against having any of these unspoken rules clarified because then they wouldn't have carte blanche to do whatever they wanted to people who prove them wrong

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void


i hope to one day get my life together enough to receive millions of dollars from the Ukrainian petrochemical industry while impregnating strippers across the continental United States

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

it just blows my mind that the same website that allows you to pay money to highlight some user's stupidity next to their every post - in as crude and insulting a way as you want! - is now going to pretend to care about protecting the fee fees of their very smart boys and girls

CountryMatters
Apr 8, 2009

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

fyad has one of these and the worst that happens is some too online weirdo who obsessively namesearches goes in to defend their posting honor, which is about the biggest gift anyone could give fyad

mock threads are fine and funny and if people don't like them they shouldn't post as much dumb poo poo

sign my petition to ask fyad to allow a succ zone refugee thread within fyad borders

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005

the succ benevolent compression center

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


i forget is anyone actually pushing the russian intelligence angle anymore or is hunter too busy not snorting coke to pay attention to the current talking points on this story

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



That quote is hilarious

Hunter is my absolute favorite fail child since he doesn't waste his time as political royalty pretending to give a poo poo about ISSUES and lecturing everyone.

Eggplant Squire has issued a correction as of 13:10 on Apr 2, 2021

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

Some Guy TT posted:

i forget is anyone actually pushing the russian intelligence angle anymore or is hunter too busy not snorting coke to pay attention to the current talking points on this story

Trump is gone.

The lie is no longer necessary.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

Eggplant Squire posted:

Hunter is my absolute favorite fail child since he doesn't waste his time as political royalty pretending to give a poo poo about ISSUES and lecturing everyone.

I'd fill the halls of power with hunter bidens in a heartbeat if it meant getting rid of the chelsea clintons

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Eggplant Squire posted:

That quote is hilarious

Hunter is my absolute favorite fail child since he doesn't waste his time as political royalty pretending to give a poo poo about ISSUES and lecturing everyone.

Also the whole horrible soap opera weird bit...

How he was probably cheating with his brother's wife (This led to his divorce) , later on was dating her after Beau croaked then later on broke up with her.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

etalian posted:

Also the whole horrible soap opera weird bit...

How he was probably cheating with his brother's wife, later on was dating her after Beau croaked then later on broke up with her.

"it's just not the same if i'm not ruining my brother's life"

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Yinlock posted:

"it's just not the same if i'm not ruining my brother's life"

Imagine Beau crying in heaven seeing Hunter banging strippers and hallie alike...

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

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etalian posted:

Imagine Beau crying in heaven seeing Hunter banging strippers and hallie alike...

Can I imagine the same thing, only he's in hell?

And getting curb stomped by the Doomguy?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I'd fill the halls of power with hunter bidens in a heartbeat if it meant getting rid of the chelsea clintons

Yeah same here

Hunter is also the good son for this same reason.

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I'd fill the halls of power with hunter bidens in a heartbeat if it meant getting rid of the chelsea clintons

The 2016 election summarized right here

Frumply
Dec 7, 2004








:coffeepal:

having a sensible chuckle this morning that ted cruz is now to the left of aoc and d&d

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Frumply posted:

:coffeepal:

having a sensible chuckle this morning that ted cruz is now to the left of aoc and d&d

maybe it was a accident like when Lyin' Ted hit the like button for Porn actress accounts?

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

mock threads are fine and funny and if people don't like them they shouldn't post as much dumb poo poo

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Shipon posted:

someone came at me in response to this with "well you can criticize israel but still be opposed to antisemitism, why can't you oppose the PRC without being racist against chinese people" and yeah I guess but the war drum seems to be much louder for this situation

100% if the US government had an antagonistic relationship with Israel hate crimes against Jews would skyrocket

Frumply
Dec 7, 2004








etalian posted:

maybe it was a accident like when Lyin' Ted hit the like button for Porn actress accounts?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
hey as long as Jeff is actually reading this thread somewhat regularly instead of just listening to the clique I’m satisfied with letting the latter run d&d into the ground until it can drown it in a bathtub

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Frumply posted:

:coffeepal:

having a sensible chuckle this morning that ted cruz is now to the left of aoc and d&d

I mean, the one point AOC had in her tweetstorm was that Ted Cruz is being insincere

She had somehow leapt from there to "everyone who is still mad about our concentration camps is insincere" of course but Ted Cruz himself does not give poo poo one and he'd probably Final Solution them if he were in charge

or like dump them all in the desert without any supplies (those cost taxpayer money) or something

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Regarding the ITT stuff I can keep saying "let the libs have their hugbox and we can keep our zone" like I've been doing for months but if Jeff is in here saying "the zone will be gassed if you keep doing this" I dunno how much good me saying it again would really do v:v:v

Posting is all we can do but the ultimate battle over D&D's lovely moderation isn't gonna be what decides the future of this country, pick your battles

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

hey as long as Jeff is actually reading this thread somewhat regularly instead of just listening to the clique I’m satisfied with letting the latter run d&d into the ground until it can drown it in a bathtub

Yeah, ultimately I think it's for the best if CSPAM stop being so obsessed with what D&D is getting up to, but it would also be nice if they would stop being so obsessed with what CSPAM is getting up to, and it'd also be nice if there weren't such a difference in the way those obsessions are being treated, particularly when the behavior never leaves the forum in question.

I still don't think unsourced quotes should be punishable, even though I think they're stupid. It's just the same joke with the same punchline over and over, and contrary to what Seth MacFarlane may believe, that's not the nature of great comedy. But if bad jokes were grounds for bans, there'd be no one left, including and especially me.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1377828627216273411

is there anything more loving tiresome than a lib who spent the last five years struggling against single-payer with all their might posting something like this

god if I ran into Tom Watson in Minecraft

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

are you loving kidding me lmfao

we had people here in the cspam forum screeching about how stupid you are if you believe it was actually his laptop like two weeks ago

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

loquacius posted:

I mean, the one point AOC had in her tweetstorm was that Ted Cruz is being insincere

She had somehow leapt from there to "everyone who is still mad about our concentration camps is insincere" of course but Ted Cruz himself does not give poo poo one and he'd probably Final Solution them if he were in charge

or like dump them all in the desert without any supplies (those cost taxpayer money) or something

The immigration story that made me the most nail-spitting furious that wasn't the camps in recent memory was that dude who was arrested for putting food and water caches out in the desert for people coming over the border. I bring that up both because your last comment reminded me of it and because I suspect Cruz would not be able to resist showing his true colors if that happened again even given the administration in charge of such things.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

LGD posted:

I don't think anybody was under the impression anything else was going to happen at any point, we're just going through the customary demonstration of how utterly and completely full of poo poo the proffered justifications are before moderators and administrators resort to bald assertions of authority

e: I think it's probably worth noting that (in addition to similar late-night issues) this is precisely why I've been aggressively poo poo-talking this entire time rather than actually taking an approach that would have a hope in hell of persuading you - it's because I feel like I've seen this song and dance too many times before, and no matter how nicely people put things it never changes a drat thing in terms of the way things play out

and normally I can't really be bothered because it's just the way it is, but the specific impetus of this whole thing is so loving slimy and revolting on every level that seeing the moderators and administrators circle the wagons and run the same tired playbook is loving infuriating

lmao that this all boils down to a particular person who may or may not be a mod and may or may not post in the dungeons and dragons forum got mad because this thread dunked on him for changing his mind about what he called death camps and he couldn't take it

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
another reason why being able to post bad D&D posts in here is that I don't want to subject myself to having to read d&d but I still want to laugh a libs

let someone else do the work I say

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

spacemang_spliff posted:

lmao that this all boils down to a particular person who may or may not be a mod and may or may not post in the dungeons and dragons forum got mad because this thread dunked on him for changing his mind about what he called death camps and he couldn't take it

tbh gently caress the D&D takes now I just want to see the meltdowns that definitely happened over the last few days on the mod forum

MooselanderII
Feb 18, 2004

Excelzior posted:

tbh gently caress the D&D takes now I just want to see the meltdowns that definitely happened over the last few days on the mod forum

Kind of makes me wonder whether they are having the same sort of meltdown conversation about whether they are concentration camps or not.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Excelzior posted:

tbh gently caress the D&D takes now I just want to see the meltdowns that definitely happened over the last few days on the mod forum

yes that too

I just want to lmao

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

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spacemang_spliff posted:

lmao that this all boils down to a particular person who may or may not be a mod and may or may not post in the dungeons and dragons forum got mad because this thread dunked on him for changing his mind about what he called death camps and he couldn't take it



EDIT: I do not, in fact, dare to enter the magical realm.

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

laughing at dnd posts in exchange for no poop touching seems to be a reasonable compromise but I dont know what you do about the people who really do want to post in both places. You need some kind of pressure relief valve between the two though. Trying to make everyone act like the other side doesnt exist is only going to make things worse.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


loquacius posted:

I mean, the one point AOC had in her tweetstorm was that Ted Cruz is being insincere

She had somehow leapt from there to "everyone who is still mad about our concentration camps is insincere" of course but Ted Cruz himself does not give poo poo one and he'd probably Final Solution them if he were in charge

or like dump them all in the desert without any supplies (those cost taxpayer money) or something

Cruz is absolutely being insincere since he's a disgusting toad but it's also highlighting how she is treating these camp victims in the exact same way. The difference is she's writing a tweet storm to obfuscate the issue when she's on the receiving end about imperialism and whatever at the same time as the state department is rattling sabers in every direction which she isn't saying anything about either.

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Acelerion posted:

laughing at dnd posts in exchange for no poop touching seems to be a reasonable compromise but I dont know what you do about the people who really do want to post in both places. You need some kind of pressure relief valve between the two though. Trying to make everyone act like the other side doesnt exist is only going to make things worse.

it's only us who have to act like d&d doesn't exist, they can do whatever they want without consequence

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