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Rapner posted:ShadowIz should get best manager, he consistently won it. If I could just get this team to stop SUCKING.
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Apr 2, 2021 00:35
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How does form between seasons work? Like should I be training my players now that I'm going to keep and need a boost before the next season starts?
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Apr 2, 2021 00:59
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Canasta_Nasty posted:How does form between seasons work? Like should I be training my players now that I'm going to keep and need a boost before the next season starts? You'll get a change report, which might increase or decrease a players overall skill. From my experience it seems like the higher the increase in skill, the more form it'll take away. Best strategy is to try and time your training to end on the day of or day after the CR. I also like to try and play a friendly before the new season starts for a little extra form boost. Jive Turkey fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Apr 2, 2021 01:08
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Shadowlz posted:If I could just get this team to stop SUCKING. I think they did great, the main thing that let you down was the youth goal keeper for 1/2 the series. I was lucky in our matches, and I chased some really old farts that would only be good for 1-2 seasons, whereas you took a longer view. My strategy was that this will likely be the easiest series we play in and if I build a more disposable but strong team I can make the money back from the title. If it failed (and it was close) I would have been boned. Edit: Oh, and then #2 most important player on the pitch is a FKer. Yours is pretty good but if they were better than most keepers you'll rake in goals. Rapner fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Apr 2, 2021 02:23
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Fun season, thanks y'all. Felt like Nagele A was very competitive and a handful of teams could have won. I'm pretty confident it's all downhill from here for the Alphabets!
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Apr 2, 2021 07:19
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Rapner posted:Payouts haven't happened yet, I think they happen when the CR is done? Still blaming it. I need an excuse when I completely fold against top opposition next season damnit!
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Apr 2, 2021 08:05
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Winning best manager works out so perfectly with my gimmick I must say.
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Apr 3, 2021 02:33
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The youths I bought halfway through the season got to +5 but then stopped. I read somewhere that mid season transfers get a penalty to DV, but after all this time I have no idea if that's an experience penalty, a DV clamp, just what happens when they only have 60% of games to skill up, whatever. Also shoutouts to this kid who spent the entire last half locked into bonkers form for absolutely no reason:
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Apr 4, 2021 01:37
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Change reports are in. Mine was ok, two double jumps and I lost a couple of points from my old gaffers as expected. Still, works for me! Any objection to this league structure?  Edit: Or option B: 
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Apr 4, 2021 04:39
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I like option a. Option b looks like a big long climb and make the bottom league have a lot of abandons Also how do you get to that change report? Mine is like by player but I am pretty hosed up so I could be missing it.
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Apr 4, 2021 06:12
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3 relegations and the bottle shape would be great. Also please consider a boost for our managers joining up without the chance to have built anything over last season!
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Apr 4, 2021 06:43
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Shadowlz posted:I like option a. Option b looks like a big long climb and make the bottom league have a lot of abandons It's in the recent events panel in your lobby screen.  Edit: tomanton posted:3 relegations and the bottle shape would be great. Also please consider a boost for our managers joining up without the chance to have built anything over last season! Will consider boosting any teams that joined after the last league started, once the new division structure is started. As long as they aren't gaming the system when I look at their team. Rapner fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 07:04
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I prefer option a for the league structure. Option b will probably lead to more abandoned teams. I had 2 double jumps in my change report, which was nice, but the weirdest thing was that 3 of my oldies also jumped including my now 32yr old keeper  I will very much take the unexpected bonus of a couple of 10 skill outfielders though, as much as I would have preferred a couple more double jumps from the kids.I'm going to need to splash out big on a new development forward as the guy I was developing is a poo poo. Edit:  No real standout player. I guess I'm going to keep the 20/6s as they may be primed to double jump. Definitely need to fire about 6 players. Flayer fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 08:03
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 I was a bit disappointed with CR. Only one double jump and weird distribution (a lot of mid-late 20s instead of some youngsters who are basically dead weight now). But looking at the ones posted here, I got a good improvement, it seems like. --- I'm for option A. The 7 team leagues are unfortunate, but 36 is a surprisingly weird number to split up nicely.
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Apr 4, 2021 11:14
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No double jumps, hoping that all those +6 DV guys just were in the spot on the bars that has a lot of growth but still shows one bar. Cutting a few and making some moves on the roster to get ready for a leaner more focused season!
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Apr 4, 2021 13:26
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My CR looked super ordinary on the numbers front, but everyone I was hoping would jump did and all the oldies/waiting to be sacked players dropped off. I'm fairly confident I can scrape this squad off the bottom of the lowest division next season.
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Apr 4, 2021 13:41
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I didn't get any double jumps either, and somehow my 18/4 with +6 DV became a 19/4, which I thought was impossible  I'm sure if he had a good season he would get a double jump on the next CR but it's not worth it so he's sacked now. Oh well, time to replace all of the players I neglected last season!
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Apr 4, 2021 14:09
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PTizzle posted:My CR looked super ordinary on the numbers front, but everyone I was hoping would jump did and all the oldies/waiting to be sacked players dropped off. I'm fairly confident I can scrape this squad off the bottom of the lowest division next season. Yeah my only two losses were my two veteran defenders, one of whom joined late and the other spent the entire season with us injured. My two youths who had poo poo DV (through injury and joining late respectively) did get single jumps, so i'm going to dump them on the market knowing that they're actually "low" for their displayed skill.
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Apr 4, 2021 14:09
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So with the second season coming up and everyone having more of a chance to mold their squads what are you going for? I'm thinking you need 11 for the first team, 1 spare goalie, 3 development players to substitution cycle every game, 3 extra players so you can use every formation (except 4-2-4 but who cares). Ideally that means an 18 player squad. I would like to pare it down further but 18 seems like the minimum. Thoughts?
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Apr 4, 2021 15:05
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Flayer posted:So with the second season coming up and everyone having more of a chance to mold their squads what are you going for? I'm thinking you need 11 for the first team, 1 spare goalie, 3 development players to substitution cycle every game, 3 extra players so you can use every formation (except 4-2-4 but who cares). Ideally that means an 18 player squad. I would like to pare it down further but 18 seems like the minimum. Thoughts? I've cut myself down to a 5-5-3 roster currently, pending a player on the market and a useless older player I just haven't sacked yet. This let's me play functionally every formation if I'm willing to deal with no substitutes, though while I'm working on my youth primarily still and just invested in a very very good defender with leadership + excellent compatibility, most of my veterans are pretty much not worth training and are functionally disposable so I can always spend 200k any given match to flesh out a formation that uses all 5 players available to me. Next season I'll probably cut a midfielder and go down to two youth forwards and keep my midfield almost entirely vets.
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Apr 4, 2021 16:06
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Flayer posted:So with the second season coming up and everyone having more of a chance to mold their squads what are you going for? I'm thinking you need 11 for the first team, 1 spare goalie, 3 development players to substitution cycle every game, 3 extra players so you can use every formation (except 4-2-4 but who cares). Ideally that means an 18 player squad. I would like to pare it down further but 18 seems like the minimum. Thoughts? That's pretty much what I'll be doing, I'll be trying to stick to 2-3 different formations with mostly the same starting 11, with some cheap old players to languish on the bench and wait for injuries/suspensions. I'll be keeping my squad size close to the max in case things get soapy, hoping one of the cheap players eats it instead of my precious Claw. Man, I really made some dumb decisions last season, like promoting my 18/4 youth goalkeepers with the hope that I could double-jump one of them and sell for a profit. That would have been an OK idea if they were 17/4 but their form was awful and oh god I spent way too much training them and they're worthless now 
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Apr 4, 2021 16:14
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My 18/5 with a +8 didn't double jump, but my 18/4 with +6 did for reasons? Fortunato, my 18/5 intelligent/cool striker, double jumped to 19/7. He wants to be a superstar  Flayer posted:So with the second season coming up and everyone having more of a chance to mold their squads what are you going for? I'm thinking you need 11 for the first team, 1 spare goalie, 3 development players to substitution cycle every game, 3 extra players so you can use every formation (except 4-2-4 but who cares). Ideally that means an 18 player squad. I would like to pare it down further but 18 seems like the minimum. Thoughts? I'm going for 16 - 2 goalies, 5 defenders (2 youth), 6 midfielders (3 youth) and 3 forwards (2 youth one oldie). Right now I'm doing an old fogey + youth mix, but as my youth get more developed I'll probably try to splash for a very solid mid 20s player (probably in the midfield). Also, laughing that I can't sack my 26/6 moody defender because "There are no reasons to sack this person." Uh, I'm pretty sure "being worthless on my team" is a good reason Dragongem fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 20:44
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 Can't be mad about this. I've gotta cut the two 21/2 and /3s and backfill the midfield just a little though.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:29
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Dragongem posted:I'm going for 18 - 2 goalies, 5 defenders (2 youth), 6 midfielders (3 youth) and 3 forwards (2 youth one oldie) Pending a transfer of a just-under-a-mil value midfielder, this is my exact distribution and intent as well.
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Apr 4, 2021 23:32
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I've inactivated all the teams over a week old and will start the league tonight or tomorrow if I'm too drunk after poker.
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Apr 4, 2021 23:52
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Thank god the transfer market finally opened up. Finally can get to work on replacing like 80% of my team!
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Apr 4, 2021 23:57
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Season 2 created. League placements are: Serie Goon:  Retu Nagele A:  Retu Nagele B:  Mr Taupe A:  Mr Taupe B:  Mr Taupe promotes into Retu Nagele, which promotes into Serie Goon. I'm a bit annoyed that only 1 slot goes up into Serie Goon despite 2 going up into Retu Nagele - will fix for next season if possible. Edit: Game is too dumb to put Nagele winners in serie goon Edit2: I changed it to 3 up 3 down to stop Retu Nagele being too much of a prison Rapner fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Apr 5, 2021 09:27
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Looks good! I look forward to basement dwelling while growing my powerhouse.
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Apr 5, 2021 11:50
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Here is how everyone's squad values have changed since the change report. The squad values didn't update until this morning. I don't believe these numbers include any of the players that were purchased since the window re-opened so I think this might actually be a somewhat accurate way to answer the question of "Who Had the Best Change Report?" But I could definitely be wrong. I'll try to do this again right after the first game so we can see who added the most value between seasons. Disclaimer: Squad value does not equal team skill, so while the Carnival Flayers are worth 3x as much as they were a few days ago, there may be other teams who had a similar amount of skill increase in the change report but less double-jumps to drive prices up. Players' skill levels are rounded to the nearest integer, you can use this tool to find out your player's actual skill. (Though you need VIP to see the change report with the % numbers on it.) 
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Apr 5, 2021 17:29
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Those are definitely some advanced stats and I like 'em
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Apr 5, 2021 21:57
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Great stats, and good tool. My CR looks about the same as everyone else's, no double jumps but in another twist on this story arctomanton posted:I paired my own 19/6 up with a 29/10 and plan to start them whenever possible, it was a bit pricey but now I don't have to worry about that position for 5-6 seasons tomanton posted:29/10 bringing up teens works so well every time   Also real glad the dumb rear end name I put in the youth academy has been stamped onto a potential star: 
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Apr 5, 2021 22:11
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bees everywhere posted:Here is how everyone's squad values have changed since the change report. Amazing work, thank you for doing this.
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Apr 5, 2021 22:25
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Pretty happy with my CR. Got a double on my 17/4 defender, and everyone else I wanted to go up did. I’m still a season or two from being relatively competitive with the number of U23s I have but it seems to be coming along nicely. Got rid of some dead weight and bought a few 30+ vets with 10ish skill to even things out, still want to make one more purchase if I can find a bargain before the season starts.
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Apr 6, 2021 00:14
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How in the world was my dumbass squad so valuable last season? I assume it's just because I had a lot of expensive deadweight players.
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Apr 6, 2021 00:27
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If they're expensive they're not going to be deadweight, do you have a bunch of youngsters on the development curve? That will pump the value vs raw ability.
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Apr 6, 2021 00:39
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I'm working on getting my 20/5 GK up to snuff but the youth academy gives me a 17/4 (who traits usually in the right place) so...I gotta do it to em right?
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Apr 6, 2021 00:46
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A 20/5 could realistically only hope to target ending up at 10 skill when fully developed. A 17/4 has a wider range of potential but could certainly end up with 14 skill bars. Spending a bunch of training econ developing the 20/5 feels like really limiting the core strength of your team and being a waste of development when in the short term you can draft in a 10+ skill oldie for comparitive pennies to cover over the cracks while the 17/4 builds up.
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Apr 6, 2021 02:00
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Going to sit out of trading for at least a week. Releasing 30 hungry goons at once in the market creates a feeding frenzy.
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Apr 6, 2021 06:41
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Rapner posted:Going to sit out of trading for at least a week. Releasing 30 hungry goons at once in the market creates a feeding frenzy. same, plus it'll give me a chance to earn some soccerbux so that I might be able to afford something decent
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Rapner posted:Going to sit out of trading for at least a week. Releasing 30 hungry goons at once in the market creates a feeding frenzy. Yeah I might have gotten a little carried away with the spending 
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