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Dapper_Swindler posted:PS. the Shinning sucks rear end and the book is better. Where he runs around with a croquet mallet instead of an axe?   What I like in the books is that Jack is and remains a good guy but he becomes possessed by some demonic entity that makes him do the things he does. Eventually it just kills Jack and takes over. In the movie Jack is an rear end in a top hat who becomes a crazy murderous assholes. Also watching the movie first and then reading the book is great because Hallorann is such an obvious red shirt and he even writes his testament before coming and then he just straight up saves the day and I was so happy for him.
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Apr 4, 2021 06:35
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Dapper_Swindler posted:interesting. so maybe there is some truth to all of it. I think enough people have seen how this stuff goes at this point to realize that, guilty or not, flailing around on stream or social media is a really bad idea and people will pick you to pieces no matter what you say. I don’t think that’s an indication of anything being true or false, it’s just being smart and uninterested in Twitter trench warfare
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Apr 4, 2021 07:07
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Katt posted:Where he runs around with a croquet mallet instead of an axe? Uh, Jack is an alcoholic with anger issues, including breaking Danny's arm at a point in the past. The reason he succumbs to the hotel's pressure is because of these issues. Not exactly what I'd call a 'good guy'.
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Apr 4, 2021 07:12
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Garrand posted:Uh, Jack is an alcoholic with anger issues, including breaking Danny's arm at a point in the past. The reason he succumbs to the hotel's pressure is because of these issues. Not exactly what I'd call a 'good guy'. Jack was an alcoholic but while out driving, him and his friend ran over a "ghost bike" which caused him and his friend to quit drinking which also saved his marriage. There isn't even any alcohol in the entire hotel (except for cooking sherry which is constantly pointed out that he hasn't touched) but he becomes drunk through ghostly/demonic possession.
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Apr 4, 2021 07:18
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Feeling bad for Ernie Cline now WB have worked out they can just put a billion ips into the background of basically any movie the Ready Player Two movie is looking less and less likely. IMO the strangest part of the RPO movie was how they presented The Shining as the spookiest, scariest most spine-tingling horror movie ever made rather than the tense thriller it actually is. They recreated the sets in sumptious detail but it felt like nobody had actually watched the movie when they wrote the script. Maybe its that thing where old horror movies lose their bite over time? Did the shining spook Speilberg real bad back in 1980?
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Apr 4, 2021 11:15
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Mr Phillby posted:
That, frankly, seems to be the case with every thing IN RPO.
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Apr 4, 2021 11:17
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Mr Phillby posted:Feeling bad for Ernie Cline now WB have worked out they can just put a billion ips into the background of basically any movie the Ready Player Two movie is looking less and less likely. Ready Player Two being an absolute garbage fire of a novel is more likely why there's no movie of it being made.
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Apr 4, 2021 11:34
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Ready Player Two being an absolute garbage fire of a novel is more likely why there's no movie of it being made. That didn't stop the original!
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Apr 4, 2021 11:37
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Mr Phillby posted:Maybe its that thing where old horror movies lose their bite over time? Did the shining spook Speilberg real bad back in 1980? Definitely not. I sometimes rewatch John Carpenter's The Thing, for example and it still holds up incredibly well. (Though it probably helps that all the creature effects are actually physically there. CGI, even really good looking CGI, is always cursed by having to do the uphill battle of not having physical presence, with knock-on effects like actors having to fight more to emote fear if there's nothing they can even see to react to, stuff like that. You have to think about it this way: Getting assaulted by weird puppets can still be scary, even if they look a bit silly, but it's really hard to get spooked by a bit of harmless light swooshing by. And actors in horror movies often don't even get that "harmless light" part of CGI, they get nothing. )
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Apr 4, 2021 11:42
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Yvonmukluk posted:That didn't stop the original! Yeah but the same people who developed a cult like obsession with the original flipped out when the leaks came out about the seque andl they tried to disavow it as a bunch of 4chan sourced ideas because it was so terrible. Then it turned out the leaks were 100% true and people on reddit tried to find some explanation for why it was so bad, like he crowdsourced out the writing or something. In the 10 years since the original there was a massive culture shift in a lot of ways, and suddenly RP2 comes out and is basically worse in every way, plus has a ton of really inappropriate "gamer moments" that are portrayed as seemingly normal.
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Apr 4, 2021 11:44
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Libluini posted:Definitely not. I sometimes rewatch John Carpenter's The Thing, for example and it still holds up incredibly well. (Though it probably helps that all the creature effects are actually physically there. CGI, even really good looking CGI, is always cursed by having to do the uphill battle of not having physical presence, with knock-on effects like actors having to fight more to emote fear if there's nothing they can even see to react to, stuff like that. You have to think about it this way: Getting assaulted by weird puppets can still be scary, even if they look a bit silly, but it's really hard to get spooked by a bit of harmless light swooshing by. And actors in horror movies often don't even get that "harmless light" part of CGI, they get nothing. ) The Thing will always be a gold standard example for why practical effects are important. Even something as simple as when they chase the guy outside and he reveals those long gory hands that haven't come into shape yet still gives me a little spine chill.  I don't need the audio to hear the sound that Bennings-Thing is making there either, poo poo is ingrained deep in the brain. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 12:04
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Dapper_Swindler posted:PS. the Shinning sucks rear end and the book is better. I hate the movie, and I especially hate the ending compared to the book. The way Jack dies in the movie sucks. And I know they didn't have the technology really at the time, but no hedge animals coming to life?? Get out of here
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Apr 4, 2021 12:06
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They cut the scene where LeBron reforms Pepe le Pew using the Ludovico Technique.
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Apr 4, 2021 12:19
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If Spielberg ever says he wants to adapt RP2 then it would absolutely happen because who's gonna say no to him?
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Apr 4, 2021 12:24
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I don't get the sense that people are now believing the text dump. They're believing the people who are in close proximity to him who say that they've witnessed or heard accounts of something not good going on, but its also so vague that I, as an outsider, don't feel comfortable speculating about it. Ariong posted:Oh, I just realized I have a question that's actually relevant to the thread. I really liked Down the Rabbit Hole and Hbomberguy's And Here's Why series for stuff to have on in the background while I do things. I've gone through them all and am now relistening. (Except the CentOS one, that one was so depressing I turned it off halfway through.) Anyone have a recommendation for another video series that's similar to either of these? Down The Rabbit hole-esque: Anomaly Documentaries Oki Weird Stories Zelcher Productions Atrocity Guide Eldena Doubleca5t's Mssscribe and Tumblr Witch videos Bandsplaining Generally more Hbomb-esque: Quinn Curio Jack Saint Coldcrashpictures Infranaut
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Apr 4, 2021 12:46
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Mr.Radar posted:[*]Today I Found Out: An "interesting facts" channel, tends to highlight less-known historic stories.[/list] One time I binged on that channel video and somehow that guy managed to poop out a video defending McDonalds on the McDonalds Coffee Lawsuit in 2016. Like after nearly everyone figured that McD's hosed up hard on that. I'll have to go watch that channel again at some point, but seeing the smarmy, constant :3 expression on his face made me remove him from rotation for quite a few years.
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Apr 4, 2021 13:10
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Maybe one day they'll release the Practical Effects Cut of The Thing 2011.
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Apr 4, 2021 13:36
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Ghostlight posted:Maybe one day they'll release the Practical Effects Cut of The Thing 2011. I really wish they would, that story always blows my mind with how god awful the CGI in it is, that THAT was the version they wanted to release. Although, even if they fix the effects, the story is still a mess in that thing too. Oh drat, a guy that turned out to be a Thing got on the evac going out of the place, what the hell's gonna happen when it reaches more peop- oh, it's just hulking out for no reason, attacking people, crashing the chopper and killing itself. *Insert slide whistle here* Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 13:51
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Kunster posted:One time I binged on that channel video and somehow that guy managed to poop out a video defending McDonalds on the McDonalds Coffee Lawsuit in 2016. Like after nearly everyone figured that McD's hosed up hard on that. I'll have to go watch that channel again at some point, but seeing the smarmy, constant :3 expression on his face made me remove him from rotation for quite a few years. In what way was he doing that? I just watched it and he seems quite critical of the way they handled the situation. He pointed out how their attitude in court lost them the lawsuit.
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Apr 4, 2021 14:19
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Samovar posted:That, frankly, seems to be the case with every thing IN RPO. Yeah, that Cline writes Halliday as somebody who only engages with the most superficial aspects of something and really only likes them because 'things seemed better when I was younger' is entirely on brand for Cline. I mean, he didn't do it intentionally as a critique because that's the entire book as that's how Cline himself engages with things.
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Apr 4, 2021 14:38
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I still dread to imagine what Ernest Cline's original script of Fanboys looked like before Jay Baruchel and Seth Rogan rewrote it to be usable.
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Apr 4, 2021 14:52
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Bakeneko posted:In what way was he doing that? I just watched it and he seems quite critical of the way they handled the situation. He pointed out how their attitude in court lost them the lawsuit. You're right, now that I watched it again.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:11
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Arcsquad12 posted:I still dread to imagine what Ernest Cline's original script of Fanboys looked like before Jay Baruchel and Seth Rogan rewrote it to be usable. I remember really enjoying that movie when it came out and I watched it again a few months ago and maaaaan it does not hold up. It's just as bad as RPO imo. Brainless references and casual bigotry galore.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:17
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the reason why i like the movie "the shining" is because it really feels sincerely claustrophobic and centers much more around the horror stemming from "what if your family/husband was really wrong, like inherently, and you were the most trapped with them anyone could be". the focus shifting to this theme (even if its just incidental) i think is way better than having to subject youself to having to read a full sized king novel
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Apr 4, 2021 15:23
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Jamie Faith posted:I remember really enjoying that movie when it came out and I watched it again a few months ago and maaaaan it does not hold up. It's just as bad as RPO imo. Brainless references and casual bigotry galore. Does RPO the movie do the same thing as the book where it'll slam the brakes on the story to dissect the references for entire pages like you made the mistake of mentioning some piece of 80's trivia to Ernest Cline in passing at a party and now he's got you cornered while talking down about all the subtle nuances of Pac-Man's killscreen and oh god someone please give you an excuse to get away... 
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Apr 4, 2021 15:23
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Jamie Faith posted:Brainless references and casual bigotry galore. That's most of what I remember from Seth Rogen in general, that and being the stereotypical annoying DUDEWEED type guy. I guess he did give us a full frontal shot of Jason Mewes's dick in Zack & Miri though.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:36
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Does RPO the movie do the same thing as the book where it'll slam the brakes on the story to dissect the references for entire pages like you made the mistake of mentioning some piece of 80's trivia to Ernest Cline in passing at a party and now he's got you cornered while talking down about all the subtle nuances of Pac-Man's killscreen and oh god someone please give you an excuse to get away... Oh, no, mostly it's just an extended Where's Waldo game of spot the references although it does take the time to point out some of the references like "IT'S KANEDA'S BIKE FROM AKIRA" and also at one point everybody hilariously flipping out over Chucky.
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Apr 4, 2021 15:43
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pentyne posted:Yeah but the same people who developed a cult like obsession with the original flipped out when the leaks came out about the seque andl they tried to disavow it as a bunch of 4chan sourced ideas because it was so terrible. Then it turned out the leaks were 100% true and people on reddit tried to find some explanation for why it was so bad, like he crowdsourced out the writing or something.
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Apr 4, 2021 16:07
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How to Drink disguised a quick look at pre-Code era Hollywood movies as one of his videos and it's pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cdtjUIzyI&hd=1
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Apr 4, 2021 16:53
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Katt posted:Where he runs around with a croquet mallet instead of an axe? Yeah. Like I think it’s a good movie on its own but it’s such a weird/bad adaptation, that I don’t really care for it. The whole book scene where the hotel just smash’s jacks face in and then guides his body around like a limping puppet is great. fun hater posted:the reason why i like the movie "the shining" is because it really feels sincerely claustrophobic and centers much more around the horror stemming from "what if your family/husband was really wrong, like inherently, and you were the most trapped with them anyone could be". the focus shifting to this theme (even if its just incidental) i think is way better than having to subject youself to having to read a full sized king novel Mr.Radar posted:For channels similar to Down the Rabbit Hole I've got a few to recommendations to throw in though they tend towards the shorter/shallower end of the spectrum in terms of average video length: Thanks those look great.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:13
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The movie's really carried a decent bit by Jack Nicholson playing such a good crazy person.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:18
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Yardbomb posted:The movie's really carried a decent bit by Jack Nicholson playing such a good crazy person. this. he does a great job for what the movie is. he is just kinda of bad choice for the role because he looks a monster mash the entire movie.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:34
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Jamie Faith posted:I remember really enjoying that movie when it came out and I watched it again a few months ago and maaaaan it does not hold up. It's just as bad as RPO imo. Brainless references and casual bigotry galore. and thats why i am sorta "fine" with the dumb space jam 2 poo poo. it looks like a hot mess and it has the loving droogs and etc in the background but least its not written by ernst cline.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:36
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Does RPO the movie do the same thing as the book where it'll slam the brakes on the story to dissect the references for entire pages like you made the mistake of mentioning some piece of 80's trivia to Ernest Cline in passing at a party and now he's got you cornered while talking down about all the subtle nuances of Pac-Man's killscreen and oh god someone please give you an excuse to get away... Ernest Cline doesn't know any subtle nuances about Pac-Man's killscreen, he'll just tell you that it's there, then immediately move on to some other inane bit of trivia that everyone with a passing interest in the subject already knows. E: Ernest Cline is the kind of person who'd tell you, in all sincerity, as if it was a profound and secret piece of wisdom that you couldn't possibly learn from anyone but the High Council of Ultra-Geekdom, that it's called Doki Doki Panic in Japan. He would not be able to tell you why.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:42
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Dabir posted:Ernest Cline doesn't know any subtle nuances about Pac-Man's killscreen, he'll just tell you that it's there, then immediately move on to some other inane bit of trivia that everyone with a passing interest in the subject already knows. yeah. cline has a 12 in the encyclopedia part of his brain and like 1 in everything else.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:47
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Dabir posted:Ernest Cline doesn't know any subtle nuances about Pac-Man's killscreen, he'll just tell you that it's there, then immediately move on to some other inane bit of trivia that everyone with a passing interest in the subject already knows. I think it's a generational thing where nerds who had their adolescence prior to exposure to the internet still cleave to an older oral tradition where you'd have to learn that stuff from an older nerd who works at the comic shop you go to.
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Apr 4, 2021 17:52
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The Shining gets a lot of points from me for the atmosphere of it all. But I understand it loses a lot as an adaptation. (hedge animals are dumb tho!)
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Apr 4, 2021 18:11
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is there a single adaptation of a Stephen King book that was not improved 500x by not being a faithful adaptation
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Apr 4, 2021 18:25
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Alaois posted:is there a single adaptation of a Stephen King book that was not improved 500x by not being a faithful adaptation Not in my opinion. the "It" books has the thing where the victims are savagely mutilated instead of kidnapped so there's no mystery about what happened to them or if they're still alive. Kids don't vanish in Derry. Kids are mauled to poo poo and the cops constantly have to make excuses to explain why it's no big deal that a kid was found dead in the streets with an arm torn off. Or a teenager got half his torso ripped out in a single bite by "well the attacker was probably on drugs or something" and no suspects are ever apprehended for these dozens of murders and mutilations Also both the kid and adult story happening at the same time means you never have to worry about the kids dying so there's no suspense when they're in dangerous situations The glorification of suicide sadly made it into both the book and movies.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:35
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doesn't the novel also have a child sex orgy that all adaptations leave out for obvious reasons
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