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Alaois posted:is there a single adaptation of a Stephen King book that was not improved 500x by not being a faithful adaptation No, and especially not in the case of The Shining. They removed the "I'm totally not a Stephen King Self Insert feeling bad about mistakes as an alcoholic and now I get a grand redemption" angle, a bunch of the frontloaded "danny wanders around and gets spooked by mundane things" sections, the werewolf that chases a little boy around yelling gay panic stuff, and they were left with a tight and atmospheric supernatural thriller.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:49
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The novel has a lot of weird bad sex poo poo. There’s a part where one of the characters goes to the library as an adult and sees that it hasn’t changed and gets scared for a moment that he’s gone back in time, but then he sighs in relief when a high-school student walks up to him and asks him if he’s ok, because he can see her nipples through her shirt and realizes that he must be in the present day. He also has a moment of nostalgia in the same chapter remembering how he used to read under a big staircase and look up women’s skirts as they went up the stairs. There’s also a famous part where the bullies give each other blowjobs and one of the characters sees it and realizes in that moment how scary and evil they truly are. The child orgy is mostly remarkable for how little it differs from how insane the rest of the book is.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:54
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I never read It but I do remember in Cujo all the loving detail King put in for the guy breaking into their home and masturbating on their bed and just how hard he was and everything. King's loving weird.
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Apr 4, 2021 18:58
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Was Thinner the one where the guy's internal monologue won't stop thinking about his daughter's bod?
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Apr 4, 2021 19:00
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I never got so far into It to reach the child sex orgy. And many many hundred pages I thought "gently caress it. I saw the movies. I have other stuff to finish" I respect most of Kings writings especially how he spends such a ridiculously amount of effort building up every single character. But a lot of it feels very old now. It feels like a waste of time to put characters into cliff hangers when its already established that they are 100% going to survive everything. It reminds me of when reading Star Wars EU stuff and an author threw in Han Solo or Princess Leia. All of a sudden I know things are going to end up fine.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:12
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God its funny how weird-horny King was in pretty much every book. Dude loved his coke.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:12
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a cartoon duck posted:doesn't the novel also have a child sex orgy that all adaptations leave out for obvious reasons Yes. The supposed justification for it is that they needed to "become adults" in order to get over their childhood fears in order to defeat Pennywise which is dumb and makes no sense because Pennywise is still around when they're adults and they're still scared of him.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:12
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Fil5000 posted:God its funny how weird-horny King was in pretty much every book. Dude loved his coke. In the Dark Tower series, when Roland loses his index and middle fingers on his right hand his literal first thought is "at least I jerk off with the left".
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Apr 4, 2021 19:16
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DeafNote posted:The Shining gets a lot of points from me for the atmosphere of it all. But I understand it loses a lot as an adaptation. i dont mind the hedge animals and stuff, i dont mind it not being a 1 to 1 adaption either. 1 to 1 adaptations have their own amounds of flaws. my issue is the book is more of sad tragedy with horror stuff in it. a very flawed but good man who breaks and is hallowed out(literally) by poo poo beyond his control. instead its a big atmosphere movie(which it does amazingly well that descends into "he was a lovely rear end in a top hat who was made worse and now he chases the kid". i think it annoys me is that the shinning is one of the few books i think King sticks the landing on and thats mostly good all the way through without weird horny coke poo poo. i think the movie is a good movie. i just get tired of seeing people put it over the book or never read the book then. Antifa Turkeesian posted:The novel has a lot of weird bad sex poo poo. There’s a part where one of the characters goes to the library as an adult and sees that it hasn’t changed and gets scared for a moment that he’s gone back in time, but then he sighs in relief when a high-school student walks up to him and asks him if he’s ok, because he can see her nipples through her shirt and realizes that he must be in the present day. He also has a moment of nostalgia in the same chapter remembering how he used to read under a big staircase and look up women’s skirts as they went up the stairs. Yeah, IT is loving weird and another problem with it is its just really loving long. like i prefer the first new movie to the book in someways because it captures the spirit of what the books going for really really well with out the weird hosed up poo poo. thats the case of a good adaptations. it doesn't have to be 1 to 1. it just has to capture the spirit of the thing and show it even if its different or such. too bad about part 2. but that part of the book always sucked, so bulling the clown to death kinda works.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:33
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Yeah, IT is loving weird and another problem with it is its just really loving long. like i prefer the first new movie to the book in someways because it captures the spirit of what the books going for really really well with out the weird hosed up poo poo. thats the case of a good adaptations. it doesn't have to be 1 to 1. it just has to capture the spirit of the thing and show it even if its different or such. too bad about part 2. but that part of the book always sucked, so bulling the clown to death kinda works. Yeah, I know King was writing what he knew but I don't need... that much on Derry. I mean, you are small town in Maine-d to death.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:50
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, I know King was writing what he knew but I don't need... that much on Derry. I mean, you are small town in Maine-d to death. i dont mind the slow burn set ups and the 10 pages of "monster has been doing this for decades" explanation and history of town poo poo, but thats just me. my issue is where it just kinda treds water for pages with bad character drama or one off characters or badly written sex/ etc.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:54
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i dont mind the slow burn set ups and the 10 pages of "monster has been doing this for decades" explanation and history of town poo poo, but thats just me. my issue is where it just kinda treds water for pages with bad character drama or one off characters or badly written sex/ etc. Agreed. I could read forever about various monster versions of Pennywise eating people but not so much the ledgers, ups and downs of every minor characters farm and family history. I like the part early in the book where it makes it look like Beverlys husband is a main character and then things just go completely south.
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Apr 4, 2021 20:37
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 Holy cow, I had no idea Jacob Whol was...THAT crazy.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:06
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Arcsquad12 posted:I still dread to imagine what Ernest Cline's original script of Fanboys looked like before Jay Baruchel and Seth Rogan rewrote it to be usable. According to Baruchel, it was basically 100 pages of IG-88 jokes. Just the shittiest, shallowest, reference-o-rama-est poo poo possible. AKA: the harbinger of Cline’s actual writing career. Also it was Adam Goldberg who reworked it into an indie retelling of A New Hope, not Seth Rogan.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:09
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Is Shoe still fash or what? I'm always for the spirit of redemption and all that and leftists keep sending her takes into my timeline.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:13
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Katt posted:Is Shoe still fash or what? I'm always for the spirit of redemption and all that and leftists keep sending her takes into my timeline. She’s just chasing dollars. If she were capable of remorse, she’d take down her channel and find another way to make a living after all the poo poo she’s pumped out.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:29
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Lot of money to be made pumping out lefty content for sure bro, lmafo.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:50
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Alaois posted:is there a single adaptation of a Stephen King book that was not improved 500x by not being a faithful adaptation His books are also half the time depressingly and sometimes needlessly bleak IMO. And good lord don't let him sit in a directors chair.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:50
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:There’s also a famous part where the bullies give each other blowjobs and one of the characters sees it and realizes in that moment how scary and evil they truly are. you're misremembering, they lit each others farts on fire, as was the style at the time e: wait nope the dick-fondling bit happens after. too much book in that book
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Apr 4, 2021 21:55
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Alaois posted:is there a single adaptation of a Stephen King book that was not improved 500x by not being a faithful adaptation The Stand comes closest? I get the impression they made a whole new miniseries and still made "the Stand but subtly worse in every single way" like the last time someone did that. But this is as much because The Stand is too weirdly structured to be a movie and leans too hard on being unflinching about the grim realities of a doom plague to make good TV so it's just not especially filmable.
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Apr 4, 2021 21:59
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Katt posted:Is Shoe still fash or what? I'm always for the spirit of redemption and all that and leftists keep sending her takes into my timeline. She went hard for Bernie and is now fairly good. She still says some dumb stuff but overall she's pretty alright.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:00
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CmdrKing posted:The Stand comes closest? I get the impression they made a whole new miniseries and still made "the Stand but subtly worse in every single way" like the last time someone did that. I didn't watch it but apparently the new Stand mini decided to tell the story in a weird disjointed way, starting halfway through the book and then doing flashbacks.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:02
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afaik Shoe hasn't apologized for anti-feminism including participating in the big anita sarkeesian hate-a-thons and dips back into it occasionally
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Apr 4, 2021 22:04
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muscles like this! posted:I didn't watch it but apparently the new Stand mini decided to tell the story in a weird disjointed way, starting halfway through the book and then doing flashbacks. Only watched the first three episodes but yeah, the scenes were all over the place. Completely turned me off of the whole thing.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:07
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CYBEReris posted:afaik Shoe hasn't apologized for anti-feminism including participating in the big anita sarkeesian hate-a-thons and dips back into it occasionally This isn't even true.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:09
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Oxxidation posted:e: wait nope the dick-fondling bit happens after. too much book in that book I hope there was a book critic who said that about IT when it came out.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:10
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muscles like this! posted:I didn't watch it but apparently the new Stand mini decided to tell the story in a weird disjointed way, starting halfway through the book and then doing flashbacks. AKA the way half of the bad movies these days start.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:18
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Ibram Gaunt posted:This isn't even true. did she or did she not align with prominent anti-feminist/anti-"SJW"s like Amazing Atheist and Armored Skeptic, self-identifying as an "egalitarian" while criticizing feminism as an unnecessary ideology that fabricates oppression? and has she reversed any of these opinions?
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Apr 4, 2021 22:31
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Katt posted:Is Shoe still fash or what? I'm always for the spirit of redemption and all that and leftists keep sending her takes into my timeline. She left up all her monetized fash poo poo which should probably tell you everything about her sincerity. Though I'm sure the person who only showed up in this thread to defend Shoe is definitely arguing in good faith.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:32
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Grunch Worldflower posted:She left up all her monetized fash poo poo which should probably tell you everything about her sincerity. Her eyes are dead, like a shark's, no humanity
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Apr 4, 2021 22:34
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CYBEReris posted:did she or did she not align with prominent anti-feminist/anti-"SJW"s like Amazing Atheist and Armored Skeptic, self-identifying as an "egalitarian" while criticizing feminism as an unnecessary ideology that fabricates oppression? and has she reversed any of these opinions? Yeah she did that poo poo..How long ago? I'm sure you were super woke from the womb and never had a dumb or awful opinion or said anything stupid. She's constantly disowned that part of her as an embarrassment and wrong thing. Is that not enough?
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Apr 4, 2021 22:35
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Yeah she did that poo poo..How long ago? I'm sure you were super woke from the womb and never had a dumb or awful opinion or said anything stupid. She's constantly disowned that part of her as an embarrassment and wrong thing. Is that not enough? yeah I can't say I've ever managed a platform that directed massive harassment waves at women and minorities or called a black woman actor an ugly gorilla
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Apr 4, 2021 22:39
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Do you think that people are incapable of change? You asked if she's disowned that part of her life, but seemingly don't actually care so why did you ask in the first place? Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 22:40
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Do you think that people are incapable of change?
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Apr 4, 2021 22:43
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Yeah she did that poo poo..How long ago? I'm sure you were super woke from the womb and never had a dumb or awful opinion or said anything stupid. She's constantly disowned that part of her as an embarrassment and wrong thing. Is that not enough?
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Apr 4, 2021 22:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUDGlEWa4sEquote:Do you think it’s possible that something so sickeningly horrible can happen to you that you simply… won't remember it? Today on the longest drat Psych of Play ever we are going to take an extremely deep dive into OMORI and talk about how it portrays trauma and dissociative amnesia. And also how it made me feel… Every. Single. Emotion. At once.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:44
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IronicDongz posted:do you think that everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt whether or not they've actually done anything to earn it Idk going big on Bernie and having a ton of people say that watching her stuff along with other left leaning YouTubers helped deradicalize them seems like a good thing, no?
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Apr 4, 2021 22:45
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Terrible Opinions posted:Bare minimum remove the old vids. I'll fully concede this point, I agree entirely that she should do this.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:45
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She still has her lovely reactionary videos up. If she was really sorry, she'd take em down. And yeah, she still does the "Idpol is cringe  " thing every now and then. Sorry but gently caress her. At least until she actually makes a genuine effort to changeEdit: sorry I was writing this before all the other posts said the exact same thing lol
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Apr 4, 2021 22:46
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Sincere contrition is seldom pursued with an eye toward brand management. Nazi stink is extremely hard to wash off. At a bare minimum, you could take your youtube channel down and find another way to make a living if you’re serious about it.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:47
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