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Mantis42 posted:Despite all the jokes about "Mothra=Martha" during the years leading up to this film, GvK suffers from a distinct lack of a Martha scene. Kong, like Batman, has been turned into the very thing he fought against - in this case a weapon used by the US government. This film needed a moment where he stops being a tool of Monarch and becomes his own Kong. Skarsgard needed this moment too. The dude just blindly does whatever and never repents for serving the bad guy. Hated the humans because they just looked on like, oh well, Kong gonna die.
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I realized what the MechaGodzilla design reminds me of.
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Apr 4, 2021 23:32
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Vintersorg posted:Exactly! Yeah, I like him too. He’s exactly how I think a bomb disposal military guy would act. And I imagine he basically grew up thinking the power plant in Japan was basically one big toxic bomb so it makes sense that he would go into a profession where he disarms things to save people. Vintersorg posted:gently caress I wish Gareth Edwards wasn't so hosed off from his treatment on Rogue One that he never wanted to touch these again. I hope he comes back and directs again. He’s very talented. 
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Apr 4, 2021 23:49
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I was surprised that during the computer scene in GvK that they didn’t use the joke: ”This is a Unix system... I don’t know this!” instead of the 90’s HTML joke.
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Apr 4, 2021 23:50
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Maybe this has been asked/answered somewhere, and I suspect the answer is going to be "because movie", but why was there daylight/sunlight in the hollow earth core?
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Apr 5, 2021 00:38
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thepokey posted:Maybe this has been asked/answered somewhere, and I suspect the answer is going to be "because movie", but why was there daylight/sunlight in the hollow earth core? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ApYaywLzs
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Apr 5, 2021 00:41
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Ford's gentleness as a person in G14 is such a big contrast to typical Hollywood military men that it really made me like the character. I've seen a lot of people read him as a flat character but I never felt that.
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Apr 5, 2021 01:06
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Detective No. 27 posted:I realized what the MechaGodzilla design reminds me of. Alright, that explains a lot about why I actually really like this Mecha-G design.
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Apr 5, 2021 01:07
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Godzilla vs Gigan is a far superior treatment of a 'mysterious corporation that is secretly out to get Godzilla with their mechanical monster.' There is actually a mystery, motivations, and better defined characters to carry the film outside of the kaiju bits.
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Apr 5, 2021 01:11
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Shiroc posted:Godzilla vs Gigan is a far superior treatment of a 'mysterious corporation that is secretly out to get Godzilla with their mechanical monster.' There is actually a mystery, motivations, and better defined characters to carry the film outside of the kaiju bits. I completely agree with this. Also Gigan fukkin' rules.
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Apr 5, 2021 01:27
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I watched Godzilla vs. King Kong last night thought it was pretty fun. The fights were cool, but the human plotlines really drug the whole thing down. The movie made me want to revisit the Monsterverse series as a whole, though, so now I'm rewatching the first one. I really like it--especially the ground-level "perspective" of the movie, which shows just how colossal the kaiju are. The human stories are also more grounded and well-integrated, which I also enjoy. I know people complained at the time that the fights were cut away from, but I think it's neat.
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Apr 5, 2021 02:05
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thepokey posted:Maybe this has been asked/answered somewhere, and I suspect the answer is going to be "because movie", but why was there daylight/sunlight in the hollow earth core?
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Apr 5, 2021 02:19
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The whole hollow earth was cool visually but made no sense (I know how stupid this sounds). They had this whole thing going where Kong could jump between top and bottom but... how does that actually work? is relativity being warped around the core itself creating a sense of the other side of the hollow core being closer than it actually us or is the hollow earth a layer around the core. There’s also a weird light source to it and it’s obvious they don’t want us to think much about it since they went through the trouble of explaining the gravity inversion field around it as a nice line of separation but...
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Apr 5, 2021 02:36
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And yet they don’t even bother remembering the gravity inversion transition after that because the plot needed them to be in Hong Kong immediately.
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Apr 5, 2021 02:39
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Big Mean Jerk posted:And yet they don’t even bother remembering the gravity inversion transition after that because the plot needed them to be in Hong Kong immediately. The gravity inversion still happens when they come out in Hong Kong. They almost crash into Kong cause of it.
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Apr 5, 2021 02:41
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Nothing about the Hollow Earth makes sense. Not the gravity, not the lighting, not the strange space-warp that they used to get there. It's visually neat and feels a bit Jules Verne-esque, but don't think too hard about it. In that hollow Earth scene, it annoyed me when the Apex lady decides to shoot Kong because... he's momentarily standing in the way? How did she expect that to end?
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Apr 5, 2021 02:47
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She expected Kong to move out the way and comply because she's wealthy.
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Apr 5, 2021 02:50
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It’s cool that Apex has reception through the loving planet.
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Apr 5, 2021 02:55
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The Hollow Earth being basically a second Earth entirely didn't seem like it followed the previous movies at all. Previously it just seemed like tunnels and pits that either the Skullcrawlers could live in or the flooded areas we see Godzilla in. The ruined temple in KOTM is explictly called the Hollow Earth and saying the guy from Skull Island was right. Then in GvK, there is a guy who wrote a book about the place everyone already knew about, treated as an idiot, then there is something completely different shown. Continuity in Godzilla films usually doesn't matter that much but the three previous Monsterverse ones were reasonably tight about it. The characters referencing Las Vegas multiple times was also really weird because Vegas was destroyed in G'14 and KOTM reiterated that it had been restored to a forest/jungle by the Titan's radiation. Vegas hasn't existed for like a decade by this movie.
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Apr 5, 2021 02:59
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The Earth's core is over 3000 miles deep, so it's best not to think that G's atomic ray blew through that, but not through a MUTO, Ghidorah or Kong
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Apr 5, 2021 03:02
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Hollow earth professor dude should have immediately crashed the ship when trying to pilot it. not to mention the whole turning it into a giant defibrillator. Movie did not even loving try to do right with the human story lmao.
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Apr 5, 2021 03:04
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:The Earth's core is over 3000 miles deep, so it's best not to think that G's atomic ray blew through that, but not through a MUTO, Ghidorah or Kong It also shows that Godzilla has pinpoint accuracy at a range of nearly 4000 miles, which is impressive.
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Apr 5, 2021 03:09
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:The Earth's core is over 3000 miles deep, so it's best not to think that G's atomic ray blew through that, but not through a MUTO, Ghidorah or Kong See but he wasn't REALLY pissed off enough
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Apr 5, 2021 03:20
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Before watching this movie I was convinced they were going to have Kong win the titular fight, so have Godzilla stomp the poo poo out of Kong pleased me greatly. I like how Hollow Earth professor says "Round two goes to Kong" in Hong Kong, but no it didn't. Godzilla won the ocean fight hands down and Kong/humans had to play dead to survive. Then in Hong Kong, Godzilla gets knocked down once (leading to Skarsgards line), gets up straight away and basically beats Kong to death. It wasn't a three round fight, it was two and Godzilla won both. Prove me wrong Movie was a bit crap and felt somehow smaller and lower stakes than the others. Guess that's what happens when you go from Monster Zero as an antagonist to the worst mecha-G ever put to film. Who okayed that design?
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Apr 5, 2021 03:25
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Things I am very upset were not in Godzilla vs Kong: 1) At no point did Kong knock an X off of an “APEX” sign, seriously I thought this was the whole reason they named the evil company that. 2) At no point did Kong knock the first word off of a “HONG KONG” sign, seriously I thought this was the whole reason they set the end of the film there (though I will admit it’s possible that they did in fact do this in Chinese, and that would be even better if they did).
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Apr 5, 2021 03:27
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DorianGravy posted:It also shows that Godzilla has pinpoint accuracy at a range of nearly 4000 miles, which is impressive. I mean, he once used it to destroy a planet being hurled at Earth, so he's got some experience! Just try not to think about how he somehow couldn't tag Kong with it for thirty-ish seconds straight.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Hollow earth professor dude should have immediately crashed the ship when trying to pilot it. not to mention the whole turning it into a giant defibrillator. I joked with my wife that suddenly he’s a master HEAV pilot and just knows all the buttons. Do they even hint that he’s a pilot of any type? 
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Vintersorg posted:Do they even hint that he’s a pilot of any type? Nope!
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:Ford's gentleness as a person in G14 is such a big contrast to typical Hollywood military men that it really made me like the character. I've seen a lot of people read him as a flat character but I never felt that. Thank you. Yeah this is exactly how I feel. I love the scene where he takes care of the kid on the train. It’s very sweet.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The whole hollow earth was cool visually but made no sense (I know how stupid this sounds). They had this whole thing going where Kong could jump between top and bottom but... how does that actually work? is relativity being warped around the core itself creating a sense of the other side of the hollow core being closer than it actually us or is the hollow earth a layer around the core. There’s also a weird light source to it and it’s obvious they don’t want us to think much about it since they went through the trouble of explaining the gravity inversion field around it as a nice line of separation but... I thought it was a hollow inner sphere that they were walking around on. The bit where Kong jumped from one side to the other was because he was on top of one mountain and going to jump to the top of the other, but on the other side of the sphere so the tips were almost touching. Just a shortcut, I guess.
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I also love how high tech cybernetics megacorp Apex had absolutely no semblance of security anywhere. Like I kept asking myself "are there no security cameras anywhere in these facilities?" while the three stooged waltzed from high security area to the next like it was nothing.
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It's a sacrificial pit. Let's walk in for no reason.
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Apr 5, 2021 04:58
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stratdax posted:I thought it was a hollow inner sphere that they were walking around on. The bit where Kong jumped from one side to the other was because he was on top of one mountain and going to jump to the top of the other, but on the other side of the sphere so the tips were almost touching. Just a shortcut, I guess. It's another thing that's very poorly conveyed, but their "hollow earth" concept is a small moon floating inside a larger shell, like a yolk inside an egg. So there are actually three worlds: most of the monsters live on the yolk, the Kong civilization lived on the inner surface of the shell, and humans obviously live on the outer surface. Everything about it is pretty stupid. Like, they literally travel from Antarctica to Hong Kong, probably going the long way, with Kong walking on foot.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Everything about it is pretty stupid. Like, they literally travel from Antarctica to Hong Kong, probably going the long way, with Kong walking on foot. I agree that everything about the Hollow Earth is silly. However, it should be noted that Kong goes through Godzilla's atomic breath hole that leads directly to Hong Kong. He doesn't go back to Antarctica. Godzilla roaring at things might be my favorite part of the movie, because it sounds amazing.
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DorianGravy posted:I agree that everything about the Hollow Earth is silly. However, it should be noted that Kong goes through Godzilla's atomic breath hole that leads directly to Hong Kong. He doesn't go back to Antarctica. I mean the entire trip: they go to Antarctica, travel downwards, walk to the cave beneath Hong Kong, and then head up - in, like, a day.
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Apr 5, 2021 05:38
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I wanna know how Wolf Dad went from Florida to Hong Kong in a few minutes without super technology.
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Apr 5, 2021 05:44
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The best part is the energy duplicator (lol) and scream hole were both "answers" for an obviously hacked up plot hole ridden script. Out of everything ridiculous that happened some how the energy duplicator destroyed my suspension of disbelief.
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Apr 5, 2021 05:46
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The scream hole was hilariously dumb, but also amazing and Iove it.
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The Bee posted:The scream hole was hilariously dumb, but also amazing and Iove it. I cackled, it was the film saying gently caress it loudly.
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bushisms.txt posted:The best part is the energy duplicator (lol) and scream hole were both "answers" for an obviously hacked up plot hole ridden script. In the future you CAN download more RAM!
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