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priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

drat Dirty Ape posted:

I keep almost buying Blade and Sorcery but I feel like I'd want some sort of 'game' structure around it to really get into it.

Yeah it’s definitely a thing to just mess around in like H3VR. Fun though and the mods are really great especially for adding more weapon variety.

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StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I can weigh in on the topic of wrist weights. Around the time that I had my Vive pro I suffered a pretty not fun back injury and spent about 6 months in physical therapy. By the time I got to the point where I could play VR again, I did show one of my therapists YouTube videos of beat saber and similar games and asked specifically about adding weight. I don't recall the detailed explanation but I was told to avoid adding weight to any movements that relied on my muscles and joints being required to quickly arrest momentum and change direction. She told me that those types of activities were the most likely to result in soft tissue injuries and compared it to the injuries that she sees in her CrossFit patients. Smooth, controlled movements with added weight are not a big deal and although you might be sore afterwards you're very unlikely to injure yourself.

I've been using one pound wrist weights on low intensity workouts in Supernatural, and it works okay there because there's more of an emphasis on long flowing movements that chain into each other. Even then, I wouldn't try it on medium or high intensity workouts in that app for exactly the reason you mention; it would require me to be able to reverse direction quickly sometimes and it feels to me like that's a good way to rip my shoulders to shreds.

imhotep
Nov 16, 2009

REDBAR INTENSIFIES
I ended up getting the Quest 2 and it’s pretty incredible how much better this is using just Virtual Desktop and the headset + controllers wirelessly, as far as setup and tracking/fidelity compared to the Rift 1 which is the only other PC VR headset I’ve used. But so far I’ve only really played Half Life: Alyx, Paper Beast (because I got the non VR ‘folded edition’ which came with the regular VR version), and some Yupitergrad. I’d already played the first two, and Yupitergrad seems like it could be more fun once I get the hang of swinging and gaining momentum.

But I also installed the VR mod for Outer Wilds and it’s probably the most impressive thing I’ve experienced with the Quest so far, Half Life probably would be had I not played all of it already at my friends on said Oculus Rift, but seriously, this mod is incredibly well done, and if you like Outer Wilds, you should definitely try it out. Or if you haven’t played Outer Wilds, you should check it out, but maybe play the actual game not entirely in VR. Maybe most VR mods are this good and I just haven’t tried them, but I kind of doubt that other mods integrate the UI into like the hand tracking and whatnot, which are also modeled like the characters hands, and turning on your flashlight is done by reaching up to the side of your head etc. I was too scared to go to a certain planet, but going in, I thought the whole experience would be a little too much, (and i guess I should say it very well could be) and I just didn’t get into any situations like spinning around in zero G super quickly, or crashing my ship in space and getting ejected at a high speed or anything else that could make me uncomfortable, but I felt fine doing almost everything else. But I have a weirdly high tolerance for VR experiences, and it didn’t feel any less comfortable than any of the other ‘intense’ VR games I’ve played

You can download it here, I bought Outer Wilds around the time it launched, before it ssd on Steam but it was surprisingly simple to get it going, I just had to add the game from my Epic library to my Steam library then hit launch game in the Nomai VR app https://github.com/Raicuparta/nomai-vr


What other non-VR games are worth playing in VR? Veni recommended Alien: Isolation, which I’m sure is great, but I can barely play it regularly, so I’m sure it would be way too scary for me in VR.

imhotep
Nov 16, 2009

REDBAR INTENSIFIES
Oh drat, I had no idea Mare came out in January, it’s one of the few PC VR games I knew of that I was looking forward to playing (I own probably most of the PSVR exclusives that are at least somewhat well reviewed), but j also haven’t kept up with PC VR games as much so Half Life, mods for non VR games and basically Mare. And I’ve only really been following it for a while because the guy who made it was a developer for The Last Guardian and I think Shadow of the Colossus as well, and he started a very similar non-VR game called Vane that took years to come out and was reviewed horribly, that he abandoned to work on this because he hired a dev team and realized that they had artistic differences, and that he would have them no matter who he worked with, so he made it alone. But I’m about to try it out, I’ll follow up with a little review later.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Maybe only tangentially related to the thread, but has anybody done any map making in the unreal engine? I haven't touched it since the days of unreal tournament but there's a handful of maps from that era that would translate fantastically well to Pavlov - a bunch of the CQB maps from infiltration for example. Wonder how easy it will be to jump back into it?

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Imhotep posted:

I ended up getting the Quest 2 and it’s pretty incredible how much better this is using just Virtual Desktop and the headset + controllers wirelessly, as far as setup and tracking/fidelity compared to the Rift 1 which is the only other PC VR headset I’ve used. But so far I’ve only really played Half Life: Alyx, Paper Beast (because I got the non VR ‘folded edition’ which came with the regular VR version), and some Yupitergrad. I’d already played the first two, and Yupitergrad seems like it could be more fun once I get the hang of swinging and gaining momentum.

But I also installed the VR mod for Outer Wilds and it’s probably the most impressive thing I’ve experienced with the Quest so far, Half Life probably would be had I not played all of it already at my friends on said Oculus Rift, but seriously, this mod is incredibly well done, and if you like Outer Wilds, you should definitely try it out. Or if you haven’t played Outer Wilds, you should check it out, but maybe play the actual game not entirely in VR. Maybe most VR mods are this good and I just haven’t tried them, but I kind of doubt that other mods integrate the UI into like the hand tracking and whatnot, which are also modeled like the characters hands, and turning on your flashlight is done by reaching up to the side of your head etc. I was too scared to go to a certain planet, but going in, I thought the whole experience would be a little too much, (and i guess I should say it very well could be) and I just didn’t get into any situations like spinning around in zero G super quickly, or crashing my ship in space and getting ejected at a high speed or anything else that could make me uncomfortable, but I felt fine doing almost everything else. But I have a weirdly high tolerance for VR experiences, and it didn’t feel any less comfortable than any of the other ‘intense’ VR games I’ve played

You can download it here, I bought Outer Wilds around the time it launched, before it ssd on Steam but it was surprisingly simple to get it going, I just had to add the game from my Epic library to my Steam library then hit launch game in the Nomai VR app https://github.com/Raicuparta/nomai-vr


What other non-VR games are worth playing in VR? Veni recommended Alien: Isolation, which I’m sure is great, but I can barely play it regularly, so I’m sure it would be way too scary for me in VR.

There's a Doom 3 VR mod that is very good, weapon reloading looks bizarre but other than that you'd think it was developed for VR

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


If you have a Quest and want to get into sideloading through Sidequest, Doom 1+2, Doom 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Half-Life and Quake all have VR engine ports done by a guy called Dr Beef. If you have a beefy PC there's also a VR version of the Gamecube emulator Dolphin which was almost entirely made to make Metroid Prime playable in VR.

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Shine posted:

I suggest wearing a weighted vest in VR. Makes general moving around take a bit more effort, and "moving around with more effort" is something that most of us could stand to do more.
Can't decide if serious.

Am I the only person in this thread who moves 20000lbs of firewood by hand every year and swings from trees with chainsaws for fun?

VR boxing is one of my more passive hobbies, I mostly worry about running into a wall and ruining my ski season :-P

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


So I picked up a Quest2 for my kid's upcoming birthday (he gave us a birthday list and this was the one and only thing on it, so I'm setting it up / playing with it in secret until then) since I had a 10% off coupon from Best Buy for my own birthday last month, and I'm kinda mad about how much better I like this than my own Vive / Index knuckles setup. It feels like a fraction of the weight, it's so much nicer not to be tethered by a bunch of cables and lighthouse positioning, and while the Index controllers are far superior, these ones feel good enough that I'd get by if these were my only option.

What I think I like most is how user / space friendly it is, with what little I tried with Virtual Desktop so far I didn't have to fiddle with room settings at all, as opposed to when I was showing off the Vive to my brother a couple weeks ago and had to spend a good 15 minutes setting things up, running Room Setup and adjusting the lighthouses and getting whoever was playing to sit/stand in the right spot and then readjusting again if the game screen was too close or too far away or the wrong height or whatever. And the effect where the screen breaks into the "real world" camera if you get too close to your boundaries is a nice touch too. Before this I was thinking of using stim / tax return money for an Index but I think if I want a third headset that I might just pick up another one of these. The only real drawbacks I felt were the required FB account linking (they probably know everything about me already, but I hope it doesn't lock me out if I get post banned for replying to some racist chud on Facebook or something) and that I had to unplug my other headset in order to get this one to work via VRDesktop (which I guess answers the question someone asked a few pages back as to whether you can run two headsets off one PC)

As far as streaming from VRDesktop, seems like 5G is pretty much a requirement to play games but 2.4G is good enough if you just want to stream videos and regular desktop stuff which I might actually use it for sometime since it looks like it's also got support for streaming input from bluetooth devices which is pretty nice. Definitely gonna have to get an access point or a repeater or something though since as I suspected, my 5G signal isn't strong enough to keep a reliable connection from my router to my basement - it was okay like 90% of the time, but the stuttering the other 10% was too annoying.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

sea of losers posted:

was this from like "normal but chronic" amounts of play daily, say 30-60min of beat saber 5 days a week? i definitely dont want to actually mess up my body but frankly i believe the job i just quit did a lot more to harm my limbs than vr (was lifting furniture and using a heavy mop a lot and it hurt my right shoulder)

No, It was my job, I had 2000+ hours logged a year ago. 5 days a week multiple hours a day.

At a low skill level, its quite easy to play for 4+ hours once you get used to being in a headset. Its the higher skill maps that are going to be the issue really. And I don't mean the newest hot fast stuff, I mean the stuff thats JUUUST out of your personal reach but you still lean forward and put your body into to win. That right there is how I killed my body. the extra push. XD

Listen to your body, :)

Cerebulon
Mar 29, 2010

Destroyer of Worlds*
(*No worlds were harmed in the making of this title.)

I appreciate everybody dumping their Rift S for Quest 2 because it means I was able to pick up a barely-used Rift S for £200 which is absolute pennies for a good quality VR headset and I have no need for standalone wireless stuff.

Now I just need to piss around on free-to-play/bundled VR editions of games until those are on sale too I guess.

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
im not out of shape but i just quit a job where i lift heavy poo poo and walk an average of 8 miles per 8.5hr workday and id rather not start doing that poo poo again, at least not where i was doing it

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



EbolaIvory posted:

No, It was my job, I had 2000+ hours logged a year ago. 5 days a week multiple hours a day.



QA tester?

Bouchehog
Dec 19, 2002

The Campaign for Badger Rights
I've got a Quest 2 and a pretty capable pc (2080/8800k/16gb) with remote desktop. My father-in-law is wheelchair-bound (powered), has slightly limited mobility in his neck and can only use his left hand. Can anyone recommend any games?

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Content creator, Influencer, Was in original ads for the game (quest stuff), worked with LIV/Oculus/Beat Games etc. Plus I'd travel to setup booths and poo poo, and be the talent or like, went to the faze mansion to setup the VR poo poo there. Errybody loves that beat saber!

EbolaIvory fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 4, 2021

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Cabbages and Kings posted:

Can't decide if serious.

Am I the only person in this thread who moves 20000lbs of firewood by hand every year and swings from trees with chainsaws for fun?

VR boxing is one of my more passive hobbies, I mostly worry about running into a wall and ruining my ski season :-P

I am serious, yes. Since the average goon is not a lumberjack or otherwise very physically active most days, finding easy little ways to get more exercise is a good thing.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



EbolaIvory posted:

Content creator, Influencer, Was in original ads for the game (quest stuff), worked with LIV/Oculus/Beat Games etc. Plus I'd travel to setup booths and poo poo, and be the talent or like, went to the faze mansion to setup the VR poo poo there. Errybody loves that beat saber!

I had to google wth was the 'faze mansion'.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




raditts posted:

So I picked up a Quest2 for my kid's upcoming birthday (he gave us a birthday list and this was the one and only thing on it, so I'm setting it up / playing with it in secret until then) since I had a 10% off coupon from Best Buy for my own birthday last month, and I'm kinda mad about how much better I like this than my own Vive / Index knuckles setup. It feels like a fraction of the weight, it's so much nicer not to be tethered by a bunch of cables and lighthouse positioning, and while the Index controllers are far superior, these ones feel good enough that I'd get by if these were my only option.

What I think I like most is how user / space friendly it is, with what little I tried with Virtual Desktop so far I didn't have to fiddle with room settings at all, as opposed to when I was showing off the Vive to my brother a couple weeks ago and had to spend a good 15 minutes setting things up, running Room Setup and adjusting the lighthouses and getting whoever was playing to sit/stand in the right spot and then readjusting again if the game screen was too close or too far away or the wrong height or whatever. And the effect where the screen breaks into the "real world" camera if you get too close to your boundaries is a nice touch too. Before this I was thinking of using stim / tax return money for an Index but I think if I want a third headset that I might just pick up another one of these. The only real drawbacks I felt were the required FB account linking (they probably know everything about me already, but I hope it doesn't lock me out if I get post banned for replying to some racist chud on Facebook or something) and that I had to unplug my other headset in order to get this one to work via VRDesktop (which I guess answers the question someone asked a few pages back as to whether you can run two headsets off one PC)

As far as streaming from VRDesktop, seems like 5G is pretty much a requirement to play games but 2.4G is good enough if you just want to stream videos and regular desktop stuff which I might actually use it for sometime since it looks like it's also got support for streaming input from bluetooth devices which is pretty nice. Definitely gonna have to get an access point or a repeater or something though since as I suspected, my 5G signal isn't strong enough to keep a reliable connection from my router to my basement - it was okay like 90% of the time, but the stuttering the other 10% was too annoying.

I mean, I get why you love the Quest 2, it’s great. You know you could always sell the vive, index or both, get a Q2 and have a grip of cash left in your pocket.

Just sayin

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

I mean, I get why you love the Quest 2, it’s great. You know you could always sell the vive, index or both, get a Q2 and have a grip of cash left in your pocket.

Just sayin

well, the thing is, I don't want to.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




You coward

Big Mackson
Sep 26, 2009

Shine posted:

I am serious, yes. Since the average goon is not a lumberjack or otherwise very physically active most days, finding easy little ways to get more exercise is a good thing.

but it is so tiresome :negative:

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

Cabbages and Kings posted:

Can't decide if serious.

Am I the only person in this thread who moves 20000lbs of firewood by hand every year and swings from trees with chainsaws for fun?

Please give link to VRumberjack, sounds good. Maybe help get me in shape

imhotep
Nov 16, 2009

REDBAR INTENSIFIES

njsykora posted:

If you have a Quest and want to get into sideloading through Sidequest, Doom 1+2, Doom 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Half-Life and Quake all have VR engine ports done by a guy called Dr Beef. If you have a beefy PC there's also a VR version of the Gamecube emulator Dolphin which was almost entirely made to make Metroid Prime playable in VR.

Sweet, I had downloaded DolphinVR already, but haven’t tried it yet. Is it actually demanding?

Booyah- posted:

There's a Doom 3 VR mod that is very good, weapon reloading looks bizarre but other than that you'd think it was developed for VR

Didn’t the official VR version of Doom 3 just come out? Or is it PSVR only?

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Imhotep posted:

Sweet, I had downloaded DolphinVR already, but haven’t tried it yet. Is it actually demanding?


Didn’t the official VR version of Doom 3 just come out? Or is it PSVR only?

that one is psvr, there is a pcvr mod for the BFG edition that i believe is a community thing not related https://github.com/KozGit/DOOM-3-BFG-VR

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more

Imhotep posted:

Sweet, I had downloaded DolphinVR already, but haven’t tried it yet. Is it actually demanding?


Didn’t the official VR version of Doom 3 just come out? Or is it PSVR only?

you have to use regular dolphin, dolphinVR is x86 only atm

the quest version of doom 3 came out recently but was ported by drbeef from an existing android port

edit sorry i thought you were talking about doing these on the quest

sea of losers fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Apr 5, 2021

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Masmaker looks nice and it's from the creators of 'A Fishermen's tale' which also was good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23auM_f-Rsk

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Imhotep posted:

Sweet, I had downloaded DolphinVR already, but haven’t tried it yet. Is it actually demanding?

I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and a GTX 1060 and the frame rate tanks hard when enemies are around in Prime. Some other stuff like Wave Race works great though.

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Shine posted:

I am serious, yes. Since the average goon is not a lumberjack or otherwise very physically active most days, finding easy little ways to get more exercise is a good thing.

I'm just a computer toucher who heats with wood.

Recommend it strongly, aside from the terrible environmental profile carbon and particulate ppm.

I'm sad to see mare as an oculus exclusive, it looks cool.

Bouchehog
Dec 19, 2002

The Campaign for Badger Rights

Bouchehog posted:

I've got a Quest 2 and a pretty capable pc (2080/8800k/16gb) with remote desktop. My father-in-law is wheelchair-bound (powered), has slightly limited mobility in his neck and can only use his left hand. Can anyone recommend any games?
Anyone? I'm after a stationary left controller only game.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Bouchehog posted:

Anyone? I'm after a stationary left controller only game.

Maybe Tetris Attack? That's the only VR game in my library that meets those requirements (since I think you can control it with one hand on the analog stick or a gamepad.)

Shemp the Stooge
Feb 23, 2001
You could probably mount the right controller on the left side of the chair and play Pokerstars VR pretty well. You only need the second hand to open your wrist menu.

Desdinova
Dec 16, 2004
I had to be on my toes, like a midget at a urinal!

Bouchehog posted:

Anyone? I'm after a stationary left controller only game.

There are a couple of golf games that are one handed, and I believe you can play them stationary, can't remember the names but they should be easily found on the app store - the putting one in particular.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Bouchehog posted:

Anyone? I'm after a stationary left controller only game.

Thumper maybe?

RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon

theflyingexecutive posted:

Current favorite Beat Saber tracks:

Jook It. This one is very intense despite only being two minutes long and it has this really fun pattern that twists your abs with a lot of height changes.

Barbara Streisand. This one is really goofy and hyper, fork in the garbage disposal style.

Polish Girl. This is very very very cool and fun to move around to. It has this almost slalom like feel in the choruses with the walls and everything.
Jook it is great and I can see myself playing Streisand a few more times. Got anything more like Jook it?

DelphiAegis posted:

Thank you both for these. I didn't manage to play them all in a single session this afternoon, but what I did play was entertaining as hell. Really shows how much thought good mappers put into their maps.
Here are my bookmarks. There are a few bad ones in there but I give you a list of my favorites. I play mostly in the range of 3.5 to 4.5 NPS, a few maps that are constantly making GBS threads blocks work with up to slightly over 5. Meaning I can play most of these on hard and a few one on expert. No idea if the mapping on expert+ is good, is what I'm saying.
If you or someone else can recommend maps, gimme gimme. (Do we have a beat saber thread? Couldn't find one.)

https://bsaber.com/songs/new/?bookmarked_by=hansi0
Among Us (Trap Remix) – Leonz
Move – Dropgun & Leat’eq
[NoodleGames Vol.2] A Hat In Time & Plasma3Music – Trainwreck Of Electro Swing
Skrillex – Fuji Opener (Virtual Riot & Xomega Remix)
cYsmix – Classic Pursuit
Jackpot
[Alphabeat – Pegboard Nerds Pack] Pegboard Nerds – Disconnected
PSYQUI – Girly Cupid feat. Marpril
[TheFatRat Pack] Windfall – TheFatRat
[TheFatRat Pack] Time Lapse – TheFatRat
[TheFatRat Pack] Unity – TheFatRat
[TheFatRat Pack] Monody (ft. Laura Brehm) – TheFatRat
Oliver Heldens X Becky Hill – Gecko (Overdrive)
!!FEVERTIME!! – Camellia
Gareth Coker – Escaping The Ruins (Ori and the Blind Forest OST)
Hot – FWLR
Dirty Rush & Gregor Es – Brass
Bad Boy Good Man
[Chart-a-Thon] Neon Eyes – Geoxor
Caravan Palace – Moonshine
Shera – MYUKKE
Iv’e No More Fucks to Give
Oblivion – TheFatRat (Zellfreid)
Crystals (Hotline Miami)
CATGROOVE – Parov Stelar (Mapped by GreatYazer)

EbolaIvory posted:

I'm not trying to be a karen and over react here but beat saber was my literal job for 2 years and my body is physically destroyed from it.
Can I ask how bad it is? Uncomfortable to move your arms/elbow? Or are you already addicted to pain killers because of it?

EbolaIvory posted:

I'd highly recommend using the in game downloader, sorting by scoresaber, sorting by PP, and downloading PP maps. They have been doing difficultys a lot more often now and the mapping is actually solid. It has to follow rules or it can't be ranked, etc. So the stuff on the bottom end is actually chill and playable a lot of the time. I wouldn't of said this before because like, other "Versions" were just slight variants to maximize PP, but now it seems like people are really mapping a bit further down so you dont' have to have 400 hours to beat the easy version now.
Can I do the bolded thing with a web browser and then search for the songs on bsaber? I'm not sure how I would find skill appropriate things for me in this 42 page list https://bsaber.com/songs/new/?ranked=true

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

RabbitWizard posted:

Here are my bookmarks. There are a few bad ones in there but I give you a list of my favorites. I play mostly in the range of 3.5 to 4.5 NPS, a few maps that are constantly making GBS threads blocks work with up to slightly over 5. Meaning I can play most of these on hard and a few one on expert. No idea if the mapping on expert+ is good, is what I'm saying.
If you or someone else can recommend maps, gimme gimme. (Do we have a beat saber thread? Couldn't find one.)

The only one that comes immediately to mind as a recommendation is this one: Witchcraft - Pendulum. I admittedly haven't played it on Expert+, but you really go into a trance when playing it.

There is a beatsaber thread but it's not very active: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3879239

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

RabbitWizard posted:


Can I ask how bad it is? Uncomfortable to move your arms/elbow? Or are you already addicted to pain killers because of it?

I'm in constant upper and lower back pain, both wrists are worse than they've ever been and my right elbow has its bad days.

Kratom was my bb for a while, thats for sure.

All in all though, worth it. Got me into the industry. :)



RabbitWizard posted:

Can I do the bolded thing with a web browser and then search for the songs on bsaber? I'm not sure how I would find skill appropriate things for me in this 42 page list https://bsaber.com/songs/new/?ranked=true

In game, if you sort by scoresaber, then by PP, just literally download anything with multiple skill levels. Anything with 1 or 2 skill levels will probably be 6+ nps 300+ PP so stick with stuff that has the full line of difficulties.


Good example of a map with lots of difficulties and well mapped through. Legit one of my fav maps atm.
https://bsaber.com/songs/12b62/

EbolaIvory fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Apr 5, 2021

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more

EbolaIvory posted:

I'm in constant upper and lower back pain, both wrists are worse than they've ever been and my right elbow has its bad days.

Kratom was my bb for a while, thats for sure.

ohhhhh yeah thats where i saw you before, im definitely there. sorry youve had to go through this poo poo

wrt maps, i guess it matters quite a bit how much you care about the music you hear vs the map itself. a semi-decent random-gen map with a good tune feels just as good as a good user-made map with a good tune to me because im willing to overlook the maps rough edges in interest of being able to move to music i like lots more. im a pretentious hipster who posts in the irony zone so i might be harder to please on that front, who knows

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Cabbages and Kings posted:

Can't decide if serious.

Am I the only person in this thread who moves 20000lbs of firewood by hand every year and swings from trees with chainsaws for fun?

VR boxing is one of my more passive hobbies, I mostly worry about running into a wall and ruining my ski season :-P

Can't decide if serious.

You're asking Something Awful if you moving tons of firewood every year is out of the norm?

I legit don't even know where to begin with this lmao

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

sea of losers posted:

ohhhhh yeah thats where i saw you before, im definitely there. sorry youve had to go through this poo poo

wrt maps, i guess it matters quite a bit how much you care about the music you hear vs the map itself. a semi-decent random-gen map with a good tune feels just as good as a good user-made map with a good tune to me because im willing to overlook the maps rough edges in interest of being able to move to music i like lots more. im a pretentious hipster who posts in the irony zone so i might be harder to please on that front, who knows

Thanks <3

Stretching, lower hours, stuff like that helps, Its just a point where you "git gud" at beat saber and slow shits boring af.

Its like that climax track, I'm working on the highest difficulty now, and second to last? I can literally dance around and play at this point :-\

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sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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Zaphod42 posted:

You're asking Something Awful if you moving tons of firewood every year is out of the norm?

i know several ppl who heat their homes with woodstoves

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