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It’s time to repost this parody. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lCMNNoT9dY Subtitles are there if you need them.
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joat mon posted:I'd like to read up on this, do you have a recommended source/cite where I could start? I really liked this book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1906500.McMafia The section on Russia talks about the dismantling of the state and how that led to the security services becoming a Mafia. I don't have anything better than that though Re: navalny, I can't find any indication he's ever had more than 20% support and mostly a lot lower than that. Is there something I'm missing? Best Friends fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Apr 6, 2021 04:56
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joat mon posted:I'd like to read up on this, do you have a recommended source/cite where I could start? This doesn't directly address the topic you quoted, but I liked Red Notice.
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Apr 6, 2021 05:03
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The sheer scale of humanitarian tragedy that accompanied the fall of the Soviet Union in Russia really can't be overemphasized. Life expectancy fell from 70 in 1987 (compared to 75 in the US) a full five years to 65 in 1994, with the life expectancy of men in particular plummeting all the way to 57. Putin's a monster in his own right, but it's also understandable why many Russians prefer the relative peace and stability of his regime compared to the unrest and disaster of the preceding two decades.
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Apr 6, 2021 06:01
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Isn't Navalny more of an anti-corruption activist than a politician?
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Apr 6, 2021 13:49
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Apr 6, 2021 13:57
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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1379393476404580352?s=20 While this is no doubt a good thing I really hope that a) every eligible adult DOES get a goddamn shot and b) we continue to manufacture and export vaccines to the rest of the world for free because this isn’t anywhere close to the end for so many places.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:21
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Not really, the availability keeps opening up because everyone who wants the vaccine already got it
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Apr 6, 2021 14:35
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Chrrnobyl got him in the end  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-56649661
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Apr 6, 2021 14:39
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I have clients that genuinely believe the vaccine has killed people in their community when those people just died from covid. Florida has been so massively under-testing/under-reporting deaths that people in red areas simply do not believe that covid is real. The vaccines are dangerous, and I'm not sure that it's possible to convince them otherwise without major cult deprogramming.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:39
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shame on an IGA posted:Not really, the availability keeps opening up because everyone who wants the vaccine already got it Yeah, I’m worried that all these chuds refusing to get vaccinated will cause a variant to pop up that the vaccines weren’t ready for. I’ve also noticed a trend of people, some of whom have lost close family members to COVID, are rallying around the “this vaccine is possible because of stem cells so I’m religiously exempt from taking it.” Any argument to the contrary triggers “Christian persecution” to these idiots.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:41
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Found out Saturday that my ultra conservative, estranged Aunt, Uncle, and Cousin living in the FL panhandle not only got covid, but my Aunt passed away. I guarantee you they never wanted the vaccine nor believed that covid was real until approx 2 weeks ago when they both hit ventilators.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:44
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If boomers want to die of covid, let them die.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:48
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Carteret posted:Found out Saturday that my ultra conservative, estranged Aunt, Uncle, and Cousin living in the FL panhandle not only got covid, but my Aunt passed away. There's been some very disturbing stories from nurses and doctors dealing with people dying from covid who are still deeply in denial about covid being real - some of them realizing that they're dying of a disease they fervently insisted didn't exist.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:50
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Cythereal posted:There's been some very disturbing stories from nurses and doctors dealing with people dying from covid who are still deeply in denial about covid being real - some of them realizing that they're dying of a disease they fervently insisted didn't exist. Are you sure you meant disturbing? Sounds "fitting" or even "hilarious"
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Apr 6, 2021 14:56
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Cythereal posted:There's been some very disturbing stories from nurses and doctors dealing with people dying from covid who are still deeply in denial about covid being real - some of them realizing that they're dying of a disease they fervently insisted didn't exist. Net positive for the gene pool. But holy poo poo is this insane and disturbing. I have empathy for them in the end, life’s precious. Theirs, not so much but it’s still sad.
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Apr 6, 2021 14:57
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The gf and I flew into south Alabama for a funeral a few weeks back. The first thing the pastor said to my gf was that we don't need masks cuz this is Alabama. Other highlights included the other preacher involved talking about how masks and vaccines are a cult that Christians need to fight, holding a massive bbq buffet as the after service party, and one of the pastors using the service itself to mock democrats and praise Trump. I feel like we should carve out some sort of large federal territory somewhere (like do we really need two dakotas or two carolinas?) for these assholes. They can live free according to their traditional culture in their reserved land and the rest of is can live without them ruining everything.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:06
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Nuclear War posted:Are you sure you meant disturbing? Sounds "fitting" or even "hilarious" I bet those nurses are laughing their asses off watching people die. Edit: TheWeedNumber posted:Net positive for the gene pool. But holy poo poo is this insane and disturbing. I have empathy for them in the end, life’s precious. Theirs, not so much but it’s still sad. Stating for the record that you think that this distinction is motivated by genetics and that those who have been fallen into an ideological belief at odds with objective truth have done so due to an inheritable trait and genealogical weakness that could have been avoided by better breeding. Interesting. piL fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Apr 6, 2021 15:07
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Mr. Nice! posted:I have clients that genuinely believe the vaccine has killed people in their community when those people just died from covid. Florida has been so massively under-testing/under-reporting deaths that people in red areas simply do not believe that covid is real. The vaccines are dangerous, and I'm not sure that it's possible to convince them otherwise without major cult deprogramming. It isn't just Florida with this. Sister-in-law that lives in California works with all right wingers. They convinced her somehow that the vaccine was bad and produced from the dead bodies of aborted babies. We need more than deprogramming.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:08
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TheWeedNumber posted:Net positive for the gene pool. But holy poo poo is this insane and disturbing. I have empathy for them in the end, life’s precious. Theirs, not so much but it’s still sad. People as a whole are not smart. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but the mob is dumb. We have a concentrated effort to keep people dumb by people with a vested interest in the same. The only news or information these people hear about covid is what they consume from facebook, fox, newsmax, and oan. These are people just deep inside a loving propaganda bubble that is nigh impossible to penetrate. A massive chunk of our nation has been fed a steady diet of horseshit via a firehose while being gaslit that the garbage they read is the only truth out there. This is a very complicated issue that really goes beyond "lol idiots glad they're gone." I don't know about you, but I work with people who believe these things (clients of mine), I live around people that believe these things, and I have family that believe these things. Are they all idiots? Individually, no. Are they all being shovelfed horrible propaganda served via deliberately gamed psychological channels to maximize impact? Absolutely. How to fix this is a massive problem without a ready solution. How do you deprogram someone with years of mental conditioning? Think how easy it is for any of us to fall back into military habits. I still don't walk on grass if there's a sidewalk available.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:10
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piL posted:I bet those nurses are laughing their asses off watching people die. I'd personally be laughing my asses off, but fear that we're never going to have herd immunity because these idiots will be an all you can eat buffet keeping COVID alive and well and mutating, and the disease itself is not fatal enough to make that a self-correcting problem.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:12
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ASAPI posted:It isn't just Florida with this. Sister-in-law that lives in California works with all right wingers. They convinced her somehow that the vaccine was bad and produced from the dead bodies of aborted babies. We need more than deprogramming. A friend in europe was just telling me how their sister was refusing the vaccine because it was so obviously unsafe. I armed them with some facts, but its not even an american chud thing
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Apr 6, 2021 15:20
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RFC2324 posted:A friend in europe was just telling me how their sister was refusing the vaccine because it was so obviously unsafe. I armed them with some facts, but its not even an american chud thing Like Mr. Nice! said, this is going to take a very long time to correct. I have a feeling that we need multiple generations, across the globe, worth of effort to bring science and facts into the spotlight again. Having 20-30% of the population (God I hope the numbers are that low) just deny any and all science can't be good for long term health.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:23
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I've been living on the road since Feb and I'm trying to figure out if i can register in misery for a shot or if i have to wait until i get back to ny in... may... maybe
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Apr 6, 2021 15:25
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Where I'm at in Southern CA there are doses available at every location with appointments not being filled up. There is also no deviation from the mandates on who can get the jab despite surplus. So not everyone who wants it is getting it yet but that's a byproduct of red CA areas being crazy loving stupid.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:25
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piL posted:I bet those nurses are laughing their asses off watching people die. They really are not, its pretty traumatic for them.
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Apr 6, 2021 15:25
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https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1379425890258534400?s=19 Hell yeah
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Apr 6, 2021 15:30
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This is a metastasis of the old "the flu shot makes you sick/gives you the flu" bullshit. Every time I've gotten into this argument with anyone, pre-COVID, that is, they always front as if it was *them* who "got really sick once," but if/when you press, it always becomes "a friend of a friend of a friend" or some horseshit like that. There's also a healthy amount of "them doctors think they're so smart," too. But you also can't discount the worst anti-vax motivation, which is "people give me attention when I say I'm not getting the vaccine. If I get the vaccine people will stop trying to convince me to get it."
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Apr 6, 2021 15:33
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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/sta...ingawful.com%2F
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Apr 6, 2021 15:35
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gently caress.
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Apr 6, 2021 16:20
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Mr. Nice! posted:I still don't walk on grass if there's a sidewalk available. I do this too but because I make a habit of deliberately not being in a hurry and desire paths are kinda ugly stealie72 posted:Nah, they're not. They're exhausted and frustrated as gently caress. He was being ironic
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Apr 6, 2021 16:21
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Also DMX is probably brain dead
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Apr 6, 2021 16:24
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loving fentanyl, I know it. Sucks
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Apr 6, 2021 16:32
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Milo and POTUS posted:loving fentanyl, I know it. Sucks It's murda.
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Apr 6, 2021 16:40
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BIG HEADLINE posted:This is a metastasis of the old "the flu shot makes you sick/gives you the flu" bullshit. I have a theory that most people who say they have had the flu actually just got a really bad cold or some type of respiratory infection or strep throat or something. I’ve maybe had it once? Maybe?
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Apr 6, 2021 16:44
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boop the snoot posted:I have a theory that most people who say they have had the flu actually just got a really bad cold or some type of respiratory infection or strep throat or something.
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Apr 6, 2021 16:47
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On the vaccine topic: https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1379117524026015751?s=19 There's a solid chunk of the country that will simply not give a flying gently caress about scientific research and data. So they're looking for whatever or whoever confirms their bullshit, which is usually randos on Facebook in a chicken-or-egg cycle of bullshit. Throw on top of that: https://twitter.com/NYTNational/status/1379044932413968388?s=19 So we're lucky that the vaccines are so good that the hospitalization rates of The Olds are flatlining even with hesitancy. The real trouble is if the facebookers get infected and birth a supervariant and we don't have the time to get boosters ready. That's also why US governmental people are already putting together a vaccination strategy for the whole world once the US is done because each country could easily export a variant here.
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Apr 6, 2021 17:02
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facialimpediment posted:On the vaccine topic: I think the media would rather report on this as the next segment of “America, the insane reality show starring insane people” than to, I dunno, fill the loving void left by the media. I know that the press being free is paramount to democracy but the general standards of operating really need a close look.
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Apr 6, 2021 17:06
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Lake of Methane posted:I also just wanted to say gently caress Oracle and recall that the software with a convoluted and confusing workflow that resulted in Citibank inadvertently sending $500 million out to Revlon creditors was another Oracle gem, "Flexcube." Reminder that Oracle was contracted by the state of oregon to write the healthcare marketplace for the state, and the project cost over $200 million, never worked, and caused a whole bunch of lawsuits.
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shame on an IGA posted:Not really, the availability keeps opening up because everyone who wants the vaccine already got it This is not true.
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