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They indeed did nuke the old wishlist back when they made the new webstore. Sony really does not care about your desire to purchase anything not on the PS4 or PS5.
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They're just content servers for chrissake how expensive can that possibly be
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Well the content servers have to stay up (at least for some time) anyway, as they will still let you redownload previously purchased content. It's just the actual store that goes away. How expensive that is is hard to say... but I'd assume it costs them more in maintenance than they're gaining back in terms of actual purchases that are still made on those platforms? Either that or some license is running out somewhere they don't care enough to renew.
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What doesn't make any sense is that they programmed a new store for the ps4 and ps5. Why not have one unified storefront? Bullshit like this is why people deride downloadable games.
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Apr 6, 2021 06:15
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Senator Drinksalot posted:What doesn't make any sense is that they programmed a new store for the ps4 and ps5. Why not have one unified storefront? Did you see how well the 'unified' store for PS3/4 went? It was dogass on both of them, especially PS3.
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That's Sony's fault for not making a better product. Steam has worked fine for a long, long time on multiple OS's and infinite numbers of hardware configurations.
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Apr 6, 2021 06:56
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Okay but in your idea it's still Sony making it, so
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Yeah, the new store is even worse, absolutely no resources went into anything other than finding a way to cram as many ads in as possible.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:What doesn't make any sense is that they programmed a new store for the ps4 and ps5. Why not have one unified storefront? Because that would almost certainly involve firmware updates for the PSP/Vita/PS3 if the console-side of the storefront needed to be changed to actually benefit from whatever changes they’ve made to unify the store like they have now. That’s probably more work than it’s worth to them. I’d also rather they left those firmwares alone so they don’t try and slip in anymore patches to prevent homebrew, since if they were going to go to the effort of updating the consoles just to be able to sell you games then they’d probably want to make sure they cut off the exploits that let you not have to buy those games at the same time.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:What doesn't make any sense is that they programmed a new store for the ps4 and ps5. Why not have one unified storefront? Don’t worry when the new u I died ps5/ps6 store comes out, the ps4 will have the same problem. Sony just sucks at online stores, which is mindblowing given the resources they have at hand
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Judging by the new webstore I'm guessing the ps6 store will be completely impossible to navigate or read.
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The ps6 store will just be a giant square marked BUY GAME that you click and it deducts 80 bucks from your account and gives you a random game. Edit: I know not what you will use to buy ps6 games, but ps7 games will be bought on an interface made from sticks and stones Morpheus fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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Apr 6, 2021 14:56
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Add a jpeg of an anime girl and sony would be set for life.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Because that would almost certainly involve firmware updates for the PSP/Vita/PS3 if the console-side of the storefront needed to be changed to actually benefit from whatever changes they’ve made to unify the store like they have now. That’s probably more work than it’s worth to them. This. I bought a Vita because it's dead and safe to mod. If that means the store goes down then so be it. For now I will happily buy Vita games on my Vita.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Yeah, the new store is even worse, absolutely no resources went into anything other than finding a way to cram as many ads in as possible. I once heard that website UI is constantly getting worse just about everywhere because the execs know they want high "engagement" (more time spent on the site, more clicks) and the easiest way for the site designers to make that happen is to make it harder to find and use the content you want on the site. If you're spending more time navigating the new web store ever since the redesign (because it sucks), then they're counting that as a success, because your 'engagement' stats went up. I really don't want to believe it but this poo poo just keeps happening!
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I recently watched a video on the development of Trails in the Sky Second Chapter, and I had no idea there was an official english release a few years ago. Was it ever actually available for purchase on PSN? Is there still a way to legitimately buy it on Vita/PSP?
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xedo posted:I once heard that website UI is constantly getting worse just about everywhere because the execs know they want high "engagement" (more time spent on the site, more clicks) and the easiest way for the site designers to make that happen is to make it harder to find and use the content you want on the site. If you're spending more time navigating the new web store ever since the redesign (because it sucks), then they're counting that as a success, because your 'engagement' stats went up. The game pages on the web store don't even have any screenshots or videos to see what the game is like (IIRC they used to have these for every single game but they were gone after the PS5 redesign) idk how they expect anyone to buy games they don't already know I haven't been able to get a PS5 so I don't know what the store is like on the actual console
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BisterdDave posted:I recently watched a video on the development of Trails in the Sky Second Chapter, and I had no idea there was an official english release a few years ago. Was it ever actually available for purchase on PSN? Is there still a way to legitimately buy it on Vita/PSP? Yes, it was only available through PSN (iirc no physical release), and it's still available now - just searched it through the Vita storefront and it's $30
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Although, it's recommended to get the PC version as the translation was updated to be in line with the series, plus it has QoL features added as well.
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Help Im Alive posted:The game pages on the web store don't even have any screenshots or videos to see what the game is like (IIRC they used to have these for every single game but they were gone after the PS5 redesign) idk how they expect anyone to buy games they don't already know It's bad on the ps5 as well, no cart that I have seen. There's a 'Get It' button that instantly charges your card and reddit is filled with posts of people pissed off because they accidentally bought something they didn't want and sony will not give refunds. Oh also, theres no prices displayed, they are hidden. Senator Drinksalot fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 6, 2021 |
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RadicalR posted:Although, it's recommended to get the PC version as the translation was updated to be in line with the series, plus it has QoL features added as well. That's good to know, I knew it was on PC but had no idea about the updates. Now I just need to finally get around to finishing First Chapter.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Oh also, theres no prices displayed, they are hidden. The buy button has the price right on it, what are you talking about? Excuse the overlay, I used remote play to fire up my console quickly because this sounded insane:   Edit: also not seeing any way to one-click a purchase because anything I try to buy asks me to confirm the payment method and accept the terms and conditions, so I don’t know what people are doing wrong but whatever it is it’s not universal. 
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I only used it back in october, perhaps they've added some things
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Senator Drinksalot posted:It's bad on the ps5 as well, no cart that I have seen. There's a 'Get It' button that instantly charges your card and reddit is filled with posts of people pissed off because they accidentally bought something they didn't want and sony will not give refunds. Oh also, theres no prices displayed, they are hidden. Senator Drinksalot posted:I only used it back in october, perhaps they've added some things  
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RadicalR posted:Although, it's recommended to get the PC version as the translation was updated to be in line with the series, plus it has QoL features added as well. I have the fan translation of Trails in the Sky Evo (the Vita versions, I guess they're Evo?) I really don't want to start over on the PC, so I hope the fan translation is accurate.
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Lol, whenever it cane out
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Annath posted:I have the fan translation of Trails in the Sky Evo (the Vita versions, I guess they're Evo?) I believe you are good. Those are using the pc translations.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Lol, whenever it cane out October and November is a huge difference. They can be as far as a day apart!
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Mind sending me the code so I can archive it?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/mmrz7p/i_am_a_former_sony_employee_ama/ Very interesting AMA with a Sony employee who worked close with the Vita. One of the takeaways is that Sony would have continued (minimally) supporting the Vita, had it not been for the hacking/homebrew scene. Another interesting response: "They have good telemetry, specifically when you're playing a game you don't have a license for. They also have telemetry to see the names of apps you're running. In other words, yes they know who those people are." Makes me a little more nervous about running homebrew apps. Maybe best to use them while disconnected from online services?
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Why would they care at this point
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sounding a whole lot like a Dreamcast failure excuse "it was the hacking that did us in guyz! You are to blame"
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Yeah the upper management is clearly just trying to pass the buck. They crippled the Vita from day one with the mem cards, 3G model, lack of first and second party support, made the thing too drat expensive. Imagine if the Vita had no back touch, maybe no fronttouch, SD cards for memory, USB C charging, and was 50$ cheaper. We'd all be playing the Vita 2 right now
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Gaius Marius posted:Why would they care at this point Never say never, I guess? Nostalgia4Dogges posted:sounding a whole lot like a Dreamcast failure excuse "it was the hacking that did us in guyz! You are to blame" Sony probably only allocated so many resources towards supporting the Vita in any capacity, and once those resources have to be spent towards combating hacking and piracy, then it's not worth it at that point.
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Did USB-C even exist when the vita came out?
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Sakurazuka posted:Did USB-C even exist when the vita came out? nah but the OLED one had a proprietary cable
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BisterdDave posted:One of the takeaways is that Sony would have continued (minimally) supporting the Vita, had it not been for the hacking/homebrew scene. Sony fought against PSP hackers for years only to give up in 2011 after the PSP EBOOT encryption keys were discovered as part of the PS3 hacks. Of course, the PSP was effectively EOL at this point as Sony was transitioning to the Vita, so previously I assumed it was just coincidence. Let's be honest, homebrewers have done far more for the Vita since it was hacked than whatever Sony's official support would've amounted to. No real loss there.
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BisterdDave posted:Sony probably only allocated so many resources towards supporting the Vita in any capacity, and once those resources have to be spent towards combating hacking and piracy, then it's not worth it at that point. I think the point is that we have no way to prove otherwise, and it looks better (for Sony execs) for Sony to blame things on outside forces. The fact that the only real evidence that they tried to cut down on exploits is the occasional rare firmware update sort of points to it being a thing that wasn't really a huge suck on resources. There was no Nintendo-like series of banwaves (assuming the telemetry isn't a lie as well), and no attempt to otherwise deal with things as far as I'm aware.
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