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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

stephenthinkpad posted:

The US doesn't have the advantage, Taiwan has the advantage. And when it comes to poaching TSMC employees, China is not at a disadvantage against the US.

IMO people are playing up the importance of high end semiconductor production way too much. Only high end phones ($800 and up) use the newest generation of fabbing, everything else, China fabs can kind of make them, although at a higher cost. Also China doesn't need to catch up and beat TSMC on 3nm production, China just need to slow down TSMC's upgrade enough for the next 10-20 years.

The issue is TSMC is under the US’ security umbrella by being based in Taiwan, but they need to continue to sell chips to China. This is why you get an awkward compromise.

I don’t think the PRC wants to slow down TMSC’s development since they need to those chips for now but build their own Lithiography machines to give them an independent process to rely on. China can design chips, they just can’t independently stencil them on silicon.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
isn't the lithography machine manufacturer a Dutch firm?

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

The US has blocked in the last 4 years the sale of Dutch made (ASML) high end EUV lithography machines to China a number of times.
They are still trying to do that.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
The US economy is expected to end by 2024

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

paul_soccer12 posted:

The US economy is expected to end by 2024

thank god

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


sure is a ton of extrapolation from a US economy juiced up by 3 (and soon to be 4) stimuluses

THS
Sep 15, 2017

paul_soccer12 posted:

The US economy is expected to end by 2024

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

China on the cutting edge of Christianity by having classic investiture conflicts and the more modern one of people setting up churches in homes because they have strong beliefs on niche things or think the government is the anti-Christ.
it's just misunderstood, and everybody is talking about it because people are curious! well frankly, whatever you've heard, if you haven't heard it straight from the source, then you might not know what to expect.

but i'm sure you'd rather see it for yourself, and even receive the gift of a free personality test at the conclusion of a guided tour. socialism with chinese characteristics is a dynamic and expanding relig… ahem, application of dialectical and historical materialism to the conditions of the 21st century. point is, it's not just something you believe in, but something you do

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

paul_soccer12 posted:

The US economy is expected to end by 2024

thta's a relief

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
I love how western media has picked up on Ukraine being a move inspired by Putin's declining popularitty, and yet is somehow missing Zelensky's plummeting popular and his calls to pull out of the Minsk agreement

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


lol

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Actually the single greatest threat to our relevance isn't doing so hot

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
China’s overuse of antibiotics in fish products threatens PH’s food safety

quote:

China’s reported overuse of antibiotics in its fisheries products threatens food safety in the Philippines, which imports billions worth of seafood products from the world’s second-largest economy every year.

In a virtual briefing on Monday, Asis Perez, convenor of food security advocacy group Tugon Kabuhayan, raised concerns over the study recently published in the journal Marine Environmental Science, revealing that China has dumped large quantities of antibiotics into the ocean.

According to the study, the amount of antibiotics found along China’s 32,000-kilometer coastline is equivalent to 20,000 penicillin tablets dropped in a standard-sized swimming pool.

The study, conducted by a team led by Peking University professor Wen Donghui, was first cited in South China Morning Post.

Perez, who is also the former director of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), said this is a food safety concern and should alarm the Philippine government.

To be specific, he said this should prompt the Philippine government to be stricter in terms of the fish and seafood products that it will allow to enter the country and be distributed to Filipino consumers.

“China is the leading exporter of fish. It produces 80 percent of the world’s fisheries export,” Perez said. “It should also be noted that the Philippines imported P9-billion worth of fish, mollusks, and aquatic invertebrates from China in 2019”.

Perez said that ideally, fish are only fed with antibiotics when they are sick and that they can’t be sold and consumed if they still have the residues of the medicine in their bodies.

Chinese farmers’ excessive use of antibiotics can be traced to Chinese farmers’ intent to suppress the spread of superbugs in their production.

“It is worth noting that prohibited antibiotics such as fulfathiaole, chloramphenicol and erythromycin were detected in the waters, indicating that the farmers may or may have used antibiotics in violation of regulations,” Wen said in the Peking University study.

The use of most antibiotics in food production is banned in China.

Perez said “eating fish with antibiotics is potentially dangerous” especially if those fish were made to consume “three times the allowable amount” of antibiotics.

“We are calling for the government to fast-track the establishment of the first border facility at ports,” Perez said.

Perez was referring to the Department of Agriculture’s (DA) plan to build the country’s first Agriculture Commodity Examination Area (ACEA), the construction of which now awaits the approval of the Philippine Ports Authority.

“If we can’t still have that facility, let’s at least tap third-party testing that will look into fish imports coming from China. We are looking at universities as partners as well as private laboratories,” Perez further said.

“We must emphasize that we shouldn’t discriminate in terms of inspection and testing. All imported fish and other food items, for that matter, should be tested for antibiotics and diseases, regardless of their country of origin,” he added.

Some of the fish products that the Philippines currently import from China are galunggong, tilapia, and pompano.

The DA and BFAR were sought to provide comments on this report but both agencies have yet issued their respective statements.

Meanwhile, the Philippine Fisheries Development Authority’s (PFDA) Navotas Fish Port Complex (NFPC) has concluded the first quarter of this year, with an unloading record of 46,436.77 metric tons (MT) of fish supply.

For the March 24 to 31 period alone, NFPC has recorded 3,606.90 MT of unloaded fish supply, which are composed of aquaculture (1,025.04 MT), marine (2,106.982 MT), and frozen (474.88 MT).

In total, NFPC has unloaded 18,647.47 MT of fish supply in March, significantly surpassing its January and February volume record of 12,404.4 MT and 15,384.9 MT, respectively.

Galunggong, bangus, tilapia, tulingan, and tamban maintained their position in the top five common species with the highest availability record for March.

ah shucks guys it's too bad China's the only one that's using too many antibiotics in their agriculture

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

VideoTapir posted:

Actually the single greatest threat to our relevance isn't doing so hot

that chart is like the 2nd derivative of gdp so they’re still doing great, just less great than how great we thought they’d do last time

animist
Aug 28, 2018

stephenthinkpad posted:

Regardless of the boycott Winter Olympic is not real Olympic.

:hmmyes:

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

fart simpson posted:

that chart is like the 2nd derivative of gdp so they’re still doing great, just less great than how great we thought they’d do last time

If you consult the latest numbers I think you will find that we were not, in fact, owned.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Yeah most of it is just they expect the US economy to do better because of stimulus spending and China was revised down like .2-3%.

Ironically enough, the Russians are also doing better because of oil prices. You can’t win them all.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

The Oldest Man posted:

Bad Empanada did a video on Xinjiang and I thought it was pretty thoughtful and well researched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js

OK tell me I'm a tool of the US state and/or a genocide denier, I'm ready

He clearly gives CNN and BBC far more latitude in terms of those outlets accurately representing the truth compared to CGTN. Doesn't mention verifying the translation done by the BBC, which has been called into question by several native speakers, but does say he verified the translation by CNN, which means he probably attempted to verify the BBC translation and then after finding out it was inaccurate decided not to mention it at all.

When CGTN shoots B-roll or interviews people it's obviously "staged", but of course there's no selective editing or coaching by the BBC or CNN! If you're going to pretend to be ruthlessly analyzing all sides of a narrative, you don't use different standards. He does the exact thing he detracts people for, i.e. having a conclusion and writing to meet it instead of letting the research guide him.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

fart simpson posted:

that chart is like the 2nd derivative of gdp so they’re still doing great, just less great than how great we thought they’d do last time

someone post that graphic of all the articles over the last 10 years warning about china’s overheated economy and imminent financial collapse

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1378617040882135045?s=19

5 more had been killed a month before as well.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

cool

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Stairmaster posted:

i dont think war is gonna happen but I do think it would be incredibly cool if it did

i mean a long simmering conflict where flashpoints flare up every few months is still considered war imo

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I watched ThePrint reported on the Maoist ambush they said the weapons and bullet proof vests had been taken from the dead Indian security force. WTF if they were wearing bullet proof vests how did so many of them got killed?

Also, the police force is called "Elite Cobra Unit" lolol. They sound like MSG baddies.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

stephenthinkpad posted:

I watched ThePrint reported on the Maoist ambush they said the weapons and bullet proof vests had been taken from the dead Indian security force. WTF if they were wearing bullet proof vests how did so many of them got killed?

Also, the police force is called "Elite Cobra Unit" lolol. They sound like MSG baddies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgyH9k1CSM

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Most are wearing bullet proof vests rated to stop pistols probably. I doubt they're just walking the jungle in level 4 plates

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

THS posted:

someone post that graphic of all the articles over the last 10 years warning about china’s overheated economy and imminent financial collapse

ive been hearing about china's imminent collapse since 2009

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

reading the d&d china thread is driving me insane

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Agrajag posted:

ive been hearing about china's imminent collapse since 2009

yeah i remember very clearly all the stuff about hu jintao completely loving up the chinese economy, it was soon going to shrink, etc. thanks NPR for always being wrong

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

stephenthinkpad posted:

I watched ThePrint reported on the Maoist ambush they said the weapons and bullet proof vests had been taken from the dead Indian security force. WTF if they were wearing bullet proof vests how did so many of them got killed?

Also, the police force is called "Elite Cobra Unit" lolol. They sound like MSG baddies.
probably they surrounded them, and then when the elite cobra unit ran out of ammo, the maoists walked up and shot them in the face

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 16:22 on Apr 7, 2021

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

THS posted:

yeah i remember very clearly all the stuff about hu jintao completely loving up the chinese economy, it was soon going to shrink, etc. thanks NPR for always being wrong

did the media ever try to land a "Hu's on first?" joke

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

fart simpson posted:

reading the d&d china thread is driving me insane

Have you tried not reading it?

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


we are all gordon chang now

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

"China sends more jets; Taiwan says it will fight to the end if there's war posted:


TAIPEI (Reuters) - China sent more fighter jets into Taiwan’s air defence zone on Wednesday in a stepped up show of force around the island Beijing claims as its own, and Taiwan’s foreign minister said it would fight to the end if China attacks.

The democratic self-governed island has complained of repeated military activities by Beijing in recent months, with China’s air force making almost daily forays in Taiwan’s air defence identification zone. On Monday, China said an aircraft carrier group was exercising close to the island.

Taiwan’s Defence Ministry said 15 Chinese aircraft including 12 fighters entered its air defence identification zone, with an anti-submarine aircraft flying to the south through the Bashi Channel between Taiwan and the Philippines.

Taiwan’s air force sent up aircraft to intercept and warn the Chinese away, the ministry added.

Speaking earlier in the day, Taiwan Foreign Minister Joseph Wu said the United States was concerned about the risk of conflict.

“From my limited understanding of American decision makers watching developments in this region, they clearly see the danger of the possibility of China launching an attack against Taiwan,” he told reporters at his ministry.

“We are willing to defend ourselves without any questions and we will fight the war if we need to fight the war. And if we need to defend ourselves to the very last day we will defend ourselves to the very last day.”

China’s Taiwan Affairs Office and the U.S. State Department did not respond to requests for comment on Wu’s remarks. China has said its activities around Taiwan are aimed at protecting China’s sovereignty. The United States has expressed concern about China’s movements, and said its commitment to Taiwan is “rock solid”.

Adding to the stepped up military action near Taiwan, the U.S. Navy said the guided missile destroyer USS John S. McCain conducted a “routine” transit of the Taiwan Strait on Wednesday.

‘PORCUPINE’ TAIWAN

Neither Taiwan nor China has said precisely where the Chinese carrier group is, or whether it is heading towards the disputed South China Sea, where a U.S. carrier group is currently operating.

Speaking in parliament, Taiwan’s Deputy Defence Minister Chang Che-ping said the Chinese carrier’s movements were being closely followed, and described its drills as routine.

A person familiar with Taiwan’s security planning told Reuters the carrier group is still “near the Japanese islands”, though declined to disclose the exact location.

Japan had said on Sunday that the Chinese carrier group had entered the Pacific after sailing through the Miyako Strait, through Japan’s southern Ryukyu island chain northeast of Taiwan.

Washington, Taiwan’s most important international backer and arms supplier, has been pushing Taipei to modernise its military so it can become a “porcupine”, hard for China to attack.

Wu said Taiwan was determined to improve its military capabilities and spend more on defence.

“The defence of Taiwan is our responsibility. We will try every way we can to improve our defence capability.”

Taiwan’s Defence Ministry said it will run eight days of computer-aided war games this month, simulating a Chinese attack. A second phase of exercises, including live-fire drills and anti-landing drills, will take place in July, when hospitals would also practice handling mass casualties.

“The drills are designed based on the toughest enemy threats, simulating all possible scenarios on an enemy invasion on Taiwan,” Major General Liu Yu-Ping told reporters.

Asked if Washington’s de facto embassy, the American Institute in Taiwan, would send representatives to the drills, Liu said such a plan was “discussed” but “will not be implemented”, citing military sensitivity.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

genericnick posted:

Have you tried not reading it?

im trying that now

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Lol

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1378617040882135045?s=19

5 more had been killed a month before as well.

can’t help but feel this is adventurism. like, they’re not raising the people to their banner, they’re not dealing a substantial blow to the Indian police or state legitimacy, they haven’t won workers any material benefit at all as far as I can tell. a couple hundred people got together to shoot at cops. they’re not accomplishing anything by killing 22 of them except I guess giving the state apparatus a pretext for brutal crackdowns. cool, but about as effective of a revolutionary strategy as Leon Czolgosz had

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

mawarannahr posted:

can’t help but feel this is adventurism. like, they’re not raising the people to their banner, they’re not dealing a substantial blow to the Indian police or state legitimacy, they haven’t won workers any material benefit at all as far as I can tell. a couple hundred people got together to shoot at cops. they’re not accomplishing anything by killing 22 of them except I guess giving the state apparatus a pretext for brutal crackdowns. cool, but about as effective of a revolutionary strategy as Leon Czolgosz had

i mean its just desperation at this point. you can picture yourself as a tribal or local peasant, you've already lost all your lands to mining or agri conglomerates stealing them so its not like you an hide amongst some kind of rural base, attempting to take it back gives the state an easy target to find and kill you, infiltration and co-option of local elites is rife, the situation is pretty hopeless and the only thing left to do is take potshots at the local paramilitaries.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
i think an insurgency can maybe work if the village system is still in place; if entire villages just get mowed down for mining land and the inhabitants thrown out to become urban precariat or just die, i'm not sure if the same tactics maoists or others used can still apply.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

it’s from D&D

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mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
whats going on in SK

https://twitter.com/mN7fFJTl3GIVMqv/status/1379818077274038273

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