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SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Faux Mulder posted:

They'll both look a bit better on a capable PC, but Superhot is pretty sparse graphically anyway and has no online stuff, so I'd advise getting that one at least on VR, if only because it's a great demo game if you ever want to take your Quest on the road and show it off to somebody else.

https://uploadvr.com/superhot-vr-new-life-quest/

I believe Superhot is genuinely better on Quest because they remade it to take advantage of the fact that you aren't tethered. The PC version was build on the assumption that you will get tangled up in the wire if you turn around too much.

Superhot Team posted:

In the old versions of Superhot, there were pyramids placed in the center of the play space that would put players back in the center where they need to be and facing the correct way to be right in the middle of the action for the next sequence. And considering these were headsets that worked with front-facing experiences directly before cameras or sensors, such as Oculus Rift and PlayStation VR, it was easy to calibrate the next level for players.

Not so with Quest. Walking and moving meant the old system would result in players looking at a wall. So they added two systems. The game automatically rotates to ensure that when the next scene begins, players are facing the correct way so they can just spring into action. The game also automatically centers the next level to where the player is standing, so they are in the correct place at the start—usually within grabbing distance of a weapon.

“The auto-rotation is because we don’t have a wire, we don’t have the constrained play space, we don’t have to care if the user is facing forward,” Thompson says. “So whatever way you are facing, the next level loads up facing you. We know where the center is because of this absolute positioning, because the Quest has mapped out the room you are in. So we didn’t really care if you were in the middle of the room or if you were facing the right way. It’s just a much more seamless experience.”

I am not sure if they ended up porting any of these improvements to PC.

SimonChris fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Apr 7, 2021

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Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
Superhot seemed cool but when I finally put it on my quest 2 I found that a lot of the levels were way too hard without the ability to move around the whole room. So if you are getting it make sure you have a big bougie dedicated VR space

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


I played a bit of Superhot last night and yeah a few spots were really tough to dodge in (such as the elevator ambush and the kill room that's just three guys with pistols) but even with a small space to move around in I was able to dodge most stuff by squatting or dropping to one knee. Maybe it gets worse later on.

Also Beat Saber works great over Virtual Desktop so thanks to those who recommended it. Looking at my future use I'll definitely get more out of being able to play Run the Jewels tracks than I will out of chasing perfect Expert+ scores so wireless streaming from my PC seems the best approach.

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Turin Turambar posted:

How is it called?

Xortex!

It’s pretty good. Here’s what it looks like.

https://youtu.be/V2cqitgi1ko

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

Superhot seemed cool but when I finally put it on my quest 2 I found that a lot of the levels were way too hard without the ability to move around the whole room. So if you are getting it make sure you have a big bougie dedicated VR space

Every time you boot it up. Its easier.

I can blow through the entire thing in under an hour anymore easy. It does a good job of making you feel like you're trash for a bit.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Played a couple of community tracks on Beat Saber. I guess I never really wondered where the hardcore DDR fans went, but I know now! I really enjoyed Seven Nation Army and Back in Black as accessible rock tracks, and Uptown Funk was a bit beyond my skill level but great for making me dance about like an idiot. Looking forward to finding other tracks for people like me who aren't rhythm game maniacs.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

Party Boat posted:

Played a couple of community tracks on Beat Saber. I guess I never really wondered where the hardcore DDR fans went, but I know now! I really enjoyed Seven Nation Army and Back in Black as accessible rock tracks, and Uptown Funk was a bit beyond my skill level but great for making me dance about like an idiot. Looking forward to finding other tracks for people like me who aren't rhythm game maniacs.

Posts like these make me so happy because it gets so much better, my dude(ette). It gets so much better. One of the best things about Beatsaber is that you will go into a song, get your rear end kicked by it, and put it on the shelf for a while. You'll come back a few weeks later and ace it out-of-the-box like it wasn't a thing. Once you start to pickup the "language" tracks are written in and parse it without thinking, it gets so much more fun.

Baba Yetu is complex, but makes you feel the beat/music in a way that's hard to describe. A fair number of the Lindsey Stirling tracks are well put together as well, though probably a bit more advanced for the moment.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Anything worth going for in the new Humble VR bundle?

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/spring-into-vr-bundle

Job Simulator and Surgeon simulator look the most interesting to me.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


DelphiAegis posted:

Posts like these make me so happy because it gets so much better, my dude(ette). It gets so much better. One of the best things about Beatsaber is that you will go into a song, get your rear end kicked by it, and put it on the shelf for a while. You'll come back a few weeks later and ace it out-of-the-box like it wasn't a thing. Once you start to pickup the "language" tracks are written in and parse it without thinking, it gets so much more fun.

Baba Yetu is complex, but makes you feel the beat/music in a way that's hard to describe. A fair number of the Lindsey Stirling tracks are well put together as well, though probably a bit more advanced for the moment.

Dude, and thanks. I'm sure some stuff will click soon but for tonight Mrs Boat and I are going to put it on no-fail mode and flail our way through some stuff on normal / hard.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Oh yeah possibly a dumb question - if I want to extend the battery life and have a generic USB battery pack can I just connect the Quest to that and pop it in my pocket while I play?

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Party Boat posted:

Oh yeah possibly a dumb question - if I want to extend the battery life and have a generic USB battery pack can I just connect the Quest to that and pop it in my pocket while I play?

Yep.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Party Boat posted:

Dude, and thanks. I'm sure some stuff will click soon but for tonight Mrs Boat and I are going to put it on no-fail mode and flail our way through some stuff on normal / hard.

Its totally 100% true and its why I always say "try poo poo thats hard as gently caress now, because you're going to laugh at it later".

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Party Boat posted:

Oh yeah possibly a dumb question - if I want to extend the battery life and have a generic USB battery pack can I just connect the Quest to that and pop it in my pocket while I play?

If you're going to buy one, make sure it has PD because the Quest power draw is very high. A non-PD battery will extend your session, but it won't fully drain the battery before the Quest dies.

Desdinova
Dec 16, 2004
I had to be on my toes, like a midget at a urinal!

priznat posted:

Anything worth going for in the new Humble VR bundle?

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/spring-into-vr-bundle

Job Simulator and Surgeon simulator look the most interesting to me.

Job Simulator is well-humoured, though I haven't played the update yet. Swords of Gurrah could be fun if done right, and as of right now it's 6p difference between the top two tiers so I'm gonna give Sairento and Borderlands 2 a go and see if they are as I heard they are (decent).

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Borderlands 2 is fun. Sairento I found to be clunky and frustrating (at least on the Index).

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


theflyingexecutive posted:

If you're going to buy one, make sure it has PD because the Quest power draw is very high. A non-PD battery will extend your session, but it won't fully drain the battery before the Quest dies.

I've got an existing one and it's very cheap so is almost certainly non-PD, but all I need is a small boost given our play sessions are in the brief span between the toddler going to bed and our bedtime. If I need to buy another battery I'll look for a PD one, thanks.

I really enjoyed this version of Shake It Off with the triple swings back and forth on the chorus, any other good recommendations for songs that get you to dance about on normal difficulty?

Right now I'm having the same problem that I had in Guitar Hero when I started out which is that one missed note generally becomes several as I reorient myself, but I'm sure that'll lessen with practice.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

Party Boat posted:

I've got an existing one and it's very cheap so is almost certainly non-PD, but all I need is a small boost given our play sessions are in the brief span between the toddler going to bed and our bedtime. If I need to buy another battery I'll look for a PD one, thanks.

I really enjoyed this version of Shake It Off with the triple swings back and forth on the chorus, any other good recommendations for songs that get you to dance about on normal difficulty?

Right now I'm having the same problem that I had in Guitar Hero when I started out which is that one missed note generally becomes several as I reorient myself, but I'm sure that'll lessen with practice.

Toxic is pretty great for that, and gets you used to crossovers.

The "one missed note means multiple" never really goes away, especially on the more frenetic sections in high PP songs. Don't worry about it to much, just keep slicing.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Sairento I found to be clunky and frustrating (at least on the Index).

I need to try it on index controllers, but on touch controllers it was fine. Teleport and stuff with the sliding and all that has kinda held up for gameplay and the gunplay has always been decent.

What was clunky/etc about it for you?

Gonna reinstall it and play it tonight, thanks for the reminder that it exists. I'm really wondering how it'll feel these days.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


DelphiAegis posted:

Toxic is pretty great for that, and gets you used to crossovers.

The "one missed note means multiple" never really goes away, especially on the more frenetic sections in high PP songs. Don't worry about it to much, just keep slicing.

gently caress yeah I love Toxic. Difficulty "between hard and expert" is absolutely going to destroy me though lol

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Borderlands 2 is fun. Sairento I found to be clunky and frustrating (at least on the Index).

The Borderlands 2 port is so under-rated, I absolutely adored my two playthroughs (even if I had to close my eyes everytime I jumped off something tall to not puke).

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Party Boat posted:

I've got an existing one and it's very cheap so is almost certainly non-PD, but all I need is a small boost given our play sessions are in the brief span between the toddler going to bed and our bedtime. If I need to buy another battery I'll look for a PD one, thanks.

I really enjoyed this version of Shake It Off with the triple swings back and forth on the chorus, any other good recommendations for songs that get you to dance about on normal difficulty?

Right now I'm having the same problem that I had in Guitar Hero when I started out which is that one missed note generally becomes several as I reorient myself, but I'm sure that'll lessen with practice.

The new no fail mode is great because it doesn't blue ball you by tanking your run but also doesn't destroy your score unless you would have failed already

X Gon Give it To Ya Hard and expert only but it's an easier hard
Gangnam Style!
The Mother We Share
Mr Blue Sky

Once you start playing maps more, you can very easily slip into the mindset of what the mapper expects you to do, making old and new maps easier. I also liked those triple swings when I started but there are so many wrist-heavy mappers who just stuff them everywhere they can.

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

theflyingexecutive posted:

The new no fail mode is great because it doesn't blue ball you by tanking your run but also doesn't destroy your score unless you would have failed already

X Gon Give it To Ya Hard and expert only but it's an easier hard
Gangnam Style!
The Mother We Share
Mr Blue Sky

Once you start playing maps more, you can very easily slip into the mindset of what the mapper expects you to do, making old and new maps easier. I also liked those triple swings when I started but there are so many wrist-heavy mappers who just stuff them everywhere they can.

I'm LOVING this conversation and cannot wait til you all come back and play some of this stuff once you move up in skill. I mean if you're all in around that skill range, look up older ruckus maps, theres lots of fun simpler stuff he does. He was "peak" good mapping back then for sure.

wezmon
Dec 31, 2007

Turin Turambar posted:

I'm reading there is a 25% discount in the oculus store, but you have to use the mobile app and use the code 'mobile25'.

I can confirm this works. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! I picked up Acron cos I'm going to have a long overdue catch up with some friends and this looks like a blast.
Also, be aware the code only works on one purchase. Tried it on Superhot too, and it didn't work.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



priznat posted:

Anything worth going for in the new Humble VR bundle?

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/spring-into-vr-bundle

Job Simulator and Surgeon simulator look the most interesting to me.

Have anyone played Detached? It's only 1€ but I need to know if it's worth my time.

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Turin Turambar posted:

Have anyone played Detached? It's only 1€ but I need to know if it's worth my time.

Their advertising seems entirely based around breaking the rules of VR comfort and making you vomit.






Oh boy, my favorite thing is flashing lights, having the camera move without my input, and vomiting!

Also I noticed a distinct lack of hands in the trailer so I'm guessing it doesn't support hand tracked controllers.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Tip posted:

Their advertising seems entirely based around breaking the rules of VR comfort and making you vomit.






Oh boy, my favorite thing is flashing lights, having the camera move without my input, and vomiting!

Also I noticed a distinct lack of hands in the trailer so I'm guessing it doesn't support hand tracked controllers.

quote:

How about not being a wuss while being an astronaut in loving outerspace?

yeah nah anything that uses that kind of advertising can gently caress right off. Speaks volumes about the devs.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Oh good, we were about due for early '00 era edgelord advertising to make a comeback.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


SPACE IS ABOUT TO MAKE YOU ITS BITCH. SUCK IT DOWN.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

EbolaIvory posted:

What was clunky/etc about [Sairento with Index controllers] for you?

I just had a lot of trouble with the controls in general - nothing felt natural or intuitive. But I was also coming to the game directly from H3VR, Alyx, etc.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Oh good, we were about due for early '00 era edgelord advertising to make a comeback.

John Romero got laughed at pretty hard back in the dang 90s for that.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Party Boat posted:

SPACE IS ABOUT TO MAKE YOU ITS BITCH. SUCK IT DOWN.

priznat posted:

John Romero got laughed at pretty hard back in the dang 90s for that.

Oh god, loving Daikatana :lmao:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Shine posted:

Oh god, loving Daikatana :lmao:

He had to flex like that in magazine ads too, instead of just posting that crap to twitter!!

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
It's time to fly through space and spew vom, and I'm all outta vom!

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more

priznat posted:

He had to flex like that in magazine ads too, instead of just posting that crap to twitter!!

its actually partially one of his marketing ppl's fault. when he expressed doubt they said "dont be a pussy"

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

sea of losers posted:

its actually partially one of his marketing ppl's fault. when he expressed doubt they said "dont be a pussy"

To be fair that was the marketing firm’s slogan :haw:

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Less Fat Luke posted:

The Borderlands 2 port is so under-rated, I absolutely adored my two playthroughs (even if I had to close my eyes everytime I jumped off something tall to not puke).

Reading that there's no co-op makes me a lot less enthusiastic because co-op makes Borderlands games exponentially more fun, but I've beaten BL2 twice before solo so what's one more time.

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more

priznat posted:

To be fair that was the marketing firm’s slogan :haw:

"Romero refers to the infamous “John Romero is about to make you his bitch” advertisement, which appeared in magazines in the spring of 1997. Wilson explains the ad was created by an agency belonging to the Richards Group in Dallas, specifically the work of the artist who also designed Daikatana’s cover art. Wilson thought it was hilarious, epitomising the in-your-face attitude at the core of the company. “I remember very clearly presenting that ad to John in his cubicle,” he says. “He also thought it was hilarious, and was like, ‘gently caress yes.’ And then he sorta started to think twice about an hour later. He was like, ‘I dunno man,’ and I think my words to him were, ‘John, don’t be a pussy.’ And that was it. He signed off on it.” "

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-history-of-ion-storm/

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/MIWMxVC.mp4

RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon

EbolaIvory posted:

I'm in constant upper and lower back pain, both wrists are worse than they've ever been and my right elbow has its bad days.

Kratom was my bb for a while, thats for sure.

All in all though, worth it. Got me into the industry. :)
That's a tough deal :(

EbolaIvory posted:

In game, if you sort by scoresaber, then by PP, just literally download anything with multiple skill levels. Anything with 1 or 2 skill levels will probably be 6+ nps 300+ PP so stick with stuff that has the full line of difficulties.
I'm playing on the quest. ScoreSaber doesn't work for me yet. I think I need an earlier BeatSaber version? I have 1.13.2 afaik. Maybe someone can help me to get an older apk? Even if that doesn't help me with searching for maps, I'd really, really like to be able to have a number on the internet go up.

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Grashnak
Apr 30, 2006

Oven Wrangler

RabbitWizard posted:

I'm playing on the quest. ScoreSaber doesn't work for me yet. I think I need an earlier BeatSaber version? I have 1.13.2 afaik. Maybe someone can help me to get an older apk? Even if that doesn't help me with searching for maps, I'd really, really like to be able to have a number on the internet go up.

I was actually looking into getting scoresaber working on the quest earlier today. Sounds like the new version of BMBF for the latest beat saber update will be out in the next week or so and then there'll be a scoresaber update to work with that.

I can't help you on getting an older version going in the meantime though.

Also I'm loving reading people talking about starting to get into custom beat saber songs. Back when I started doing that I was just able to get into the easier end of expert and now a couple of months later I'm getting 86% accuracy on stuff like this. If you keep pushing yourself you'll find that stuff you thought was impossible is suddenly really easy, I remember the first time I fired up an expert+ song and almost instantly died and couldn't even follow the notes.

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