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Jul 26, 2007

docbeard posted:

Wasn't he actually up for a diplomatic post in China, too, at one point? (My position at the time being that I don't want him to have any government job but one that gets him as far from the US as possible would be an acceptable compromise.)

lol yes there were rumors of him being tapped to be ambassador to china or japan. the cycle is complete.

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
They haven’t broken any campaign promises that I’ve noticed. Minimum wage couldn’t be passed immediately by reconciliation and will end up being a later fight. The $2000 vs $1400 plus UI extension and tax credit debate is something whined about by a bubble of the terminally online while most people consider it a moderately large victory.

The idea that Biden’s deadline to justify the existence of the Democratic party was 2 months into his term and anything he hadn’t strong-armed into existence as God-Emperor of the United States by that point was automatically a malicious broken campaign promise is absurd.

You can keep advocating for a $15 min wage and keep the issue in the discourse, but declaring everything that didn’t go perfectly or needed to be dealt with at a later time within the first couple of months a broken promise makes you sound disingenuous or incredibly uninformed regarding how legislation is typically passed to the point of magical thinking.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Atrocious Joe posted:

we've already got the head of the East Turkestan Democrats and East Turkestan Republicans ready to deploy



lmfao he looks like trump hugging the flag

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

sexpig by night posted:

They haven’t broken any campaign promises that I’ve noticed. Minimum wage couldn’t be passed immediately by reconciliation and will end up being a later fight. The $2000 vs $1400 plus UI extension and tax credit debate is something whined about by a bubble of the terminally online while most people consider it a moderately large victory.

The idea that Biden’s deadline to justify the existence of the Democratic party was 2 months into his term and anything he hadn’t strong-armed into existence as God-Emperor of the United States by that point was automatically a malicious broken campaign promise is absurd.

You can keep advocating for a $15 min wage and keep the issue in the discourse, but declaring everything that didn’t go perfectly or needed to be dealt with at a later time within the first couple of months a broken promise makes you sound disingenuous or incredibly uninformed regarding how legislation is typically passed to the point of magical thinking.

:shuckyes:

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

I'm convinced, I love the Biden/Harris administration now

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

sexpig by night posted:

They haven’t broken any campaign promises that I’ve noticed. Minimum wage couldn’t be passed immediately by reconciliation and will end up being a later fight. The $2000 vs $1400 plus UI extension and tax credit debate is something whined about by a bubble of the terminally online while most people consider it a moderately large victory.

The idea that Biden’s deadline to justify the existence of the Democratic party was 2 months into his term and anything he hadn’t strong-armed into existence as God-Emperor of the United States by that point was automatically a malicious broken campaign promise is absurd.

You can keep advocating for a $15 min wage and keep the issue in the discourse, but declaring everything that didn’t go perfectly or needed to be dealt with at a later time within the first couple of months a broken promise makes you sound disingenuous or incredibly uninformed regarding how legislation is typically passed to the point of magical thinking.

Multiple senators openly chose to err on the side of following the parliamentarian’s guidance (stating they’d vote down a bill that didn’t follow it).

Seeing as how Biden needed unanimity among Dems and people were screaming bloody murder to get immediate aid passed ASAP, it’s a little unsurprising that Biden wasn’t confident in his ability to turn the party into a lockstep monolith overnight with a wave of his magic wand and didn’t want to roll the dice on torpedoing the whole bill.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
things not getting better is part of the plan!! VOTE!

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
they're running out of time on the Bernie redemption arc if they want it to get over

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Willa Rogers posted:

liberals have memory-holed their breathless predictions of biden taking texas & florida, lol.

AZ, WI, GA going blue was a difference of like 40k votes across all three states total and if they hadn't we'd have had the dub six nine tie of our dreams

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
i wish trump was still president

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Chillgamesh posted:

AZ, WI, GA going blue was a difference of like 40k votes across all three states total and if they hadn't we'd have had the dub six nine tie of our dreams

and let's be honest, we probably stole AZ, come on it's far enough past it, the lawsuits are over, we can just admit it

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Chillgamesh posted:

AZ, WI, GA going blue was a difference of like 40k votes across all three states total and if they hadn't we'd have had the dub six nine tie of our dreams

The civil war between libs and chuds would have been over in a week since one side believes in guns lol

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

paul_soccer12 posted:

i wish trump was still president

yeah, if only people took harm reduction into account when voting

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

really queer Christmas posted:

The civil war between libs and chuds would have been over in a week since one side believes in guns lol

tbh I think most of the scooter-bound boomers who make up the q army aren't really much of a threat. Even on Jan 6 where they had virtually zero opposition between them and a soft target they got nothing done

libs otoh absolutely have the cash to hire some blackwater-type thug to disappear you

Rectal Death Deft
Jan 10, 2020

by Nyc_Tattoo

mawarannahr posted:

what’s the big deal about the water wars video? everyone knows , who cares.

Water Wars have been a known thing for a really long time. The Bush family bought a bunch of aquifer in the early 2000s.

The thing about the Vice President just blatantly stating it means the future is here. The water wars are here. India and Pakistan are going to be the first and it's happening right now.

It's like how everyone jokes about Florida being submerged under the ocean but the Vice President hasn't blatantly stated that the Miami evacuations will soon be underway.

Bideo James
Oct 21, 2020

you'll have to ask someone else about the size of her cans

Marianne, please hold Biden accountable for creating the border crisis starting in 2008

Moon Shrimp
Sep 7, 2013

DrManiac posted:

The Tara Reade debacle was the final crack ping of me realizing liberals are just as bad as chuds. The cynical way I saw some goons instantly throw the me too poo poo away was genuinely disgusting.

i'm in a position where i get irritated with most reade skeptics and everyone who seeks to weaponize her accusations against bidenlikers :v:

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

sexpig by night posted:

They haven’t broken any campaign promises that I’ve noticed. Minimum wage couldn’t be passed immediately by reconciliation and will end up being a later fight. The $2000 vs $1400 plus UI extension and tax credit debate is something whined about by a bubble of the terminally online while most people consider it a moderately large victory.

The idea that Biden’s deadline to justify the existence of the Democratic party was 2 months into his term and anything he hadn’t strong-armed into existence as God-Emperor of the United States by that point was automatically a malicious broken campaign promise is absurd.

You can keep advocating for a $15 min wage and keep the issue in the discourse, but declaring everything that didn’t go perfectly or needed to be dealt with at a later time within the first couple of months a broken promise makes you sound disingenuous or incredibly uninformed regarding how legislation is typically passed to the point of magical thinking.

the best part of this kind of thinking is the exact same people before the election were saying that if you don’t think Biden will do $15 min wage then you’re just spreading Republican talking points

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Moon Shrimp posted:

i'm in a position where i get irritated with most reade skeptics and everyone who seeks to weaponize her accusations against bidenlikers :v:

How very reasonable and gigantic-brained of you. How often do you find you run into the latter type of person

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

you must let people support evil things in peace because that’s the real way to respect the victims of the evil they helped make happen.

stop trying to weaponize things by telling people that helping to do evil is bad

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
"weaponize her accusations against biden-likers" = saying you shouldn't support a rapist in his presidential campaign

Flying-PCP
Oct 2, 2005

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

How very reasonable and gigantic-brained of you. How often do you find you run into the latter type of person

depends how much one hangs out on politics twitter, really

also i think you've found a flaw in this new 'evade the eye of sauron' strategy

Flying-PCP has issued a correction as of 20:43 on Apr 7, 2021

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord
posting that dumb rear end in a top hat that ends all his posts with :v: is cheating

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Meanwhile, Brazilian social movements are getting increasingly concerned that Biden is doing closed door deals with Bolsonaro to help rehabilitate Bozo:

https://www.oc.eco.br/wp-content/up...F-AMERICA_E.pdf

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Trabisnikof posted:

you must let people support evil things in peace because that’s the real way to respect the victims of the evil they helped make happen.

stop trying to weaponize things by telling people that helping to do evil is bad

Yeah, we need to stop electing hosed up persons.

I've got a bureaucrat buddy. Every elected official he's seen? They're up to their eyeballs in career bureaucrats.

If we were to start electing psychologically-healthy and non-criminal bus drivers, line cooks, etc., I wager we'd come out ahead.

Public servants could shore up inexperience.

And what we'd still lose to inexperience, we'd more than gain from non-corruption and non-predation.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Moon Shrimp posted:

i'm in a position where i get irritated with most reade skeptics and everyone who seeks to weaponize her accusations against bidenlikers :v:

yea rape supporters and people who don't think rapists should be made the most powerful man on earth, especially under the banner of a 'pro-women' party are the same

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

copy posted:

I will be literally snidely whiplash. I will only except cartoon answers to cartoon questions.

i am going to become dan backslide

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

Smythe posted:

no war but class war mother FUCKER

Flying-PCP
Oct 2, 2005

Accretionist posted:

Yeah, we need to stop electing hosed up persons.

I've got a bureaucrat buddy. Every elected official he's seen? They're up to their eyeballs in career bureaucrats.

If we were to start electing psychologically-healthy and non-criminal bus drivers, line cooks, etc., I wager we'd come out ahead.

Public servants could shore up inexperience.

And what we'd still lose to inexperience, we'd more than gain from non-corruption and non-predation.

Why would a non hosed up person ever want to be president of the united states of america. You'd basically have to draft someone into the position

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Talking about bad things that China is doing is not warmongering. It's not even cold-warmongering, whatever that would entail. Nobody's talking about staging an invasion. The most I could see happening is some international sanctions or encouraging companies to stop directly enabling China in their forms of oppression, which could actually have more of a chance of getting the Chinese government to stop than the lack of approval from their own population.

But that hasn't really stopped Russia, so mostly there's not really any active solutions people outside of China can push for, and it's probably much more perilous for people inside China to make a stand. Not every conversation is about encouraging activism or engineering solutions, and that's fine for an internet forum.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
'it's weird how there's so little direct sources from chinese people themselves isn't it?'

'that's actually because they're all scared, unlike me, the brave internet poster, also Russia???'

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:


feel like chud cartoonists had less ammunition to dunk on obama with

FormaldehydeSon
Oct 1, 2011


lol what's the under/over on how long until she increases the police budget?

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Organ Fiend posted:

More succ harvesting from the cursed images thread

this owns lmfao

Josh Christ
Dec 24, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

PipHelix posted:

Well, it is a continuation of an argument that I let die, so that might mean I'm bringing in stuff without necessarily enough context.

But when I mentioned after the election that CA voting down affirmative action was a bad thing in general as it probably on the balance would have done more good than harm to people held down and held back I got a lot of 'how dare you make aspersions against anyone but the Capitalist Class' (as though the property owning rentier class in CA, to say nothing of our Nazi Tech Overlords didn't go probably 90%+ against AA) which was distressing.

Then someone mentioned CA voters, as a body, were basically swine, and I referred to it which got the same posters going again. Anyone outside the two or three people could be excused from not knowing what the gently caress.

Mirthless had a bit of an effort post themself that straight up called people who support AA idiots and extended a LOT of unearned credit to states like AZ, and MI and treated having a large non-white population as the same as being racially equitable, which I don't know anyone who can pay attention to America for like two months at a time and not know that the almost the exact inverse is true.

Whether you think that fixing economics will fix racism, chicken egg, whatever, there's a really gross thread of thought on the left that treats the real effects of racism now as not important since some hypothetical socialist utopia is always just around the corner that will right all wrongs, so paying any attention to those issues is a distraction from revolution. And then we wonder why our socialist groups are a bunch of white college educated kids with sociology/econ degrees.

And also absolutely gently caress anyone who goes to bat for racists. They might have been tricked by Capital into accepting a superior place in a racial heirarchy in exchange for an inferior place in the economic one, and enforcing that heirarchy on everyone else, but it doesn't mean they aren't the main foot soldiers in the struggle for a better society.

Meet up with them if you want, raise their consciousness if you want, but you're not going to fix all of them, and they're going to do a lot of harm to people who didn't go looking for any trouble in the meantime.

Anyway, convo over, I was only so active yesterday cause I was waiting for machine time. Today's gonna be a big one, I'm out of everyone's hair.

I just want you to know every time I see you post more than free sentences my eyes glaze over and my thumb flicks the screen until I'm at a new part of the thread.

Flying-PCP
Oct 2, 2005

Reality Protester posted:



feel like chud cartoonists had less ammunition to dunk on obama with

uh, they only needed the one thing, why go to extra effort

Josh Christ
Dec 24, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

sexpig by night posted:

They haven’t broken any campaign promises that I’ve noticed. Minimum wage couldn’t be passed immediately by reconciliation and will end up being a later fight. The $2000 vs $1400 plus UI extension and tax credit debate is something whined about by a bubble of the terminally online while most people consider it a moderately large victory.

The idea that Biden’s deadline to justify the existence of the Democratic party was 2 months into his term and anything he hadn’t strong-armed into existence as God-Emperor of the United States by that point was automatically a malicious broken campaign promise is absurd.

You can keep advocating for a $15 min wage and keep the issue in the discourse, but declaring everything that didn’t go perfectly or needed to be dealt with at a later time within the first couple of months a broken promise makes you sound disingenuous or incredibly uninformed regarding how legislation is typically passed to the point of magical thinking.

"They haven't broken any campaign promises, unless you thought they meant 2000 when they said 2000" is spicy

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

oh come on it would never happen in real li-



gently caress.

OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chillgamesh posted:

AZ, WI, GA going blue was a difference of like 40k votes across all three states total and if they hadn't we'd have had the dub six nine tie of our dreams

This was the result America truly deserved. I was really pulling for it because it would have been extremely funny and even further deligitimized the US electoral system

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Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

i have absolutely no fucking money
has there ever been a president that wasn't a rapist

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