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spacemang_spliff: Nov 29, 2014; wide pickle

lol Amazon is not going to allow the unionization to happen. they'll lose billions if it succeeds. there's no way the vote wasn't rigged

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:12

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# ? May 26, 2024 11:55

Tom Guycot: Oct 15, 2008; Chief of Governors

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

THE COUNT begins (no needle unfortunately)

https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/1380250213877743617?s=21

"100 to 39" lol, shocker, massive months long campaigns to discourage work again!

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:13

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

THE COUNT begins (no needle unfortunately)

https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/1380250213877743617?s=21

Bleak

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:14

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

Tom Guycot posted:

Or, ya know, getting dressed

You're expecting a goon to understand what this is?

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:14

WorkerThread: Feb 15, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

THE COUNT begins (no needle unfortunately)

https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/1380250213877743617?s=21

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:17

Nichael: Mar 30, 2011

Dixon Chisholm posted:

Do you mean into into?

yes

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:18

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

THE COUNT begins (no needle unfortunately)

https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/1380250213877743617?s=21

Oh cool better things aren't possible good to know

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:18

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

PostNouveau posted:

Oh cool better things aren't possible good to know

People are scared of losing their jobs.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:19

WorkerThread: Feb 15, 2012

PostNouveau posted:

Oh cool better things aren't possible good to know

the third worldists are right

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:20

Bootleg Trunks: Jun 12, 2020

At least biden kinda sorta said something in support

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:20

spacemang_spliff: Nov 29, 2014; wide pickle

mcmagic posted:

People are scared of losing their jobs.

yeah there's 0% chance that Amazon isn't going to retaliate against every yes vote and anyone who helped organize

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:21

Bootleg Trunks: Jun 12, 2020

VOTE

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:21

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019; Can't post for 16 hours!

those fuckers are trying to gently caress it up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/08/amazon-bessemer-mailbox-union posted:

SEATTLE � Emails among U.S. Postal Service employees in January and February show that Amazon pressed the agency to install a mailbox outside its Bessemer, Ala., warehouse, a move the union battling to organize workers there contends is a violation of labor laws.

The Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union is fighting to represent 5,805 workers at the facility in one of the most high-profile labor battles in years, and the National Labor Relations Board is expected to begin counting votes today.

The union has complained about the mailbox, which the Postal Service installed just before the start of mail-in balloting for the union election in early February. It has argued that the mailbox could lead workers to think Amazon has some role in collecting and counting ballots, which could influence their votes.

The emails, obtained by the union through Freedom of Information Act requests, could extend that battle if the union loses the vote, providing fodder for unfair labor practices charges that provide grounds to overturn the results. The emails show that Amazon pressed the Postal Service to install a mailbox urgently just as the seven-week mail-in balloting began.

(Amazon chief executive Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post.)

�We have not heard anything back on the install of this collection box,� a Postal Service account manager wrote to Alabama colleagues on Jan. 14. �Amazon is reaching out again to me today about the status as they wanted to move quickly on this.�

Six days later, the manager sent another email to her colleagues in Alabama that �Amazon�s expected set-up date for this collection box is February 7, 2021.� The manager also noted in a Jan. 8 email that a person, whose name was redacted, �at Amazon HQ would like to (be) kept in the loop on this progress.�

A Postal Service spokesman did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Amazon spokeswoman Heather Knox said the mailbox�s placement was intended to make voting easy.

�The RWDSU fought those at every turn and pushed for a mail-only election, which the NLRB�s own data showed would reduce turnout,� Knox said in a statement. �This mailbox � which only the USPS had access to � was a simple, secure, and completely optional way to make it easy for employees to vote, no more and no less.�

The emails among Postal Service workers, though, show the lengths to which Amazon will go to fight unionization, RWDSU president Stuart Appelbaum said.

�Even though the NLRB definitively denied Amazon�s request for a drop box on the warehouse property, Amazon felt it was above the law and worked with the postal service anyway to install one,� Appelbaum said in a statement. �They did this because it provided a clear ability to intimidate workers.�

The mailbox � the type of unmarked unit with individually locked compartments and a mail slot that is common in apartment and condo buildings � does not have U.S. Postal Service markings, and the union has said that could signal to workers that the company has a role in running the election.

The union has called Amazon�s campaign to get employees to bring their ballots to work and use the mailbox an unlawful form of ballot harvesting. It has also argued that the push to get workers to use the mailbox helped the company determine which employees supported the union because they would be less likely to vote on company property.

The email exchanges contradict comments about the mailbox that Postal Service spokesman David Partenheimer made to The Washington Post last month, when he said the agency suggested putting the box at the warehouse, not Amazon. At the time, Partenheimer declined to say why the agency, which counts Amazon as its largest corporate client, decided to install the mailbox at the start of the mail-in election, or what led it to put the mailbox on Amazon property.

The mailbox appeared in the parking lot in front of the warehouse, inside a tent just as the mail-in voting began.

�Speak for yourself! Mail your ballot here,� reads a banner on the tent.

One reason the mailbox is controversial is that the NLRB, which is overseeing the election, rejected Amazon�s request to put ballot boxes at the warehouse for in-person voting. The board cited concerns about the safety of Amazon workers and agency staff members during the coronavirus pandemic in ruling that ballotsshould be sent to the NLRB by mail.

The use of social distancing procedures that Amazon employs at its warehouses to ensure workers do not get too close to one another during the pandemic �to monitor the line leading to the voting tent would give the impression of surveillance or tracking,� Lisa Henderson, the acting regional director of the NLRB�s Atlanta office, wrote in her ruling setting election rules.

More than 3,200 workers voted, though hundreds of votes were challenged, according to the union. The tally could take a day or longer as the agency counts each unchallenged vote by hand, one by one.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:21

Nothus: Feb 22, 2001; Buglord

mcmagic posted:

People are scared of losing their jobs.

It's Amazon. They're going to figure out who voted yes.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:21

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Nothus posted:

It's Amazon. They're going to figure out who voted yes.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1380254236261355522

Yeah

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:22

KaptainKrunk: Feb 6, 2006

WorkerThread posted:

the third worldists are right

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:23

spacemang_spliff: Nov 29, 2014; wide pickle

mcmagic posted:

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1380254236261355522

Yeah

I've got a word I would use instead of investigated but I can't post it here parody in minecraft

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:24

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

keep in mind amazon challenged hundreds of votes (most of which were likely yes) so if it ends up being at least somewhat close this could drag on for a while

no need to get doom pilled immediately

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:24

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

~~hmmmm i don't see the vote count on the NYT article any longer............. anyone else seeing it??~~

e: nvm it's back

Wraith of J.O.I. has issued a correction as of 21:29 on Apr 8, 2021

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:26

Peter Daou Zen: Apr 6, 2021; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

D&D was gloating that "lol hunter biden doesn't matter who cares"

if that laptop had belonged to one of trumps large failsons we would have never, ever, ever heard the end of it

hmm but i guess looking at the laptop is russian propaganda or whatever

its like phil leotardo from the sopranos lamenting the death of his brother billy

47, he was just a loving kid...

but the media lamenting hunter biden's innocence lost at age 51

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:26

Woke Mind Virus: Aug 22, 2005

the terrible count so far has to be because a bunch of yes votes are "contested". right folks... right??

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:27

Nichael: Mar 30, 2011

hunter biden clearly doesn't matter, just like don jr didn't matter, but it is very funny

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:27

is pepsi ok: Oct 23, 2002

I've had no hope of the Amazon union passing or really any pro-labor poo poo passing after Prop 22 sailed through with overwhelming support.

:smith:

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:29

KaptainKrunk: Feb 6, 2006

Nichael posted:

hunter biden clearly doesn't matter, just like don jr didn't matter, but it is very funny

it was just the most revealing example of how the media hated Trump and now will look to the government to tell us which candidate the russians support and actively denigrate any dirt they bring up

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:29

Peter Daou Zen: Apr 6, 2021; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

is there like a biden family gene where they are all criminals/rapists

biden's brother is shady as h*ck

sons very shady

daughter is a sex fiend

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:32

Dixon Chisholm: Jan 2, 2020

Nichael posted:

yes

That's next level assault. Seriously crazy poo poo.

Wow.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:34

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019; Can't post for 16 hours!

Peter Daou Zen posted:

is there like a biden family gene where they are all criminals/rapists

biden's brother is shady as h*ck

sons very shady

daughter is a sex fiend

the cycle of abuse seems likelier than "bad seed"

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:34

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

manchin would most prefer to push ten senate republicans into supporting enough of the FTP act that he can get that passed and not deal with the rest. that requires some amount of posturing towards senate republicans that if they don't get on board, they might get bulldozed over. he did a lot of this when he went on four separate news channels to idly discuss requiring a talking filibuster - and the stuff in the wapo article going out of its way to mention he thinks there's parts they ought to support is part of this. that is also why he supported schumer not abolishing the nuclear option in the rules of the senate, to keep that gun on the table.

it also, however, requires some amount of posturing towards other democrats to take what they can get if he delivers enough republicans (and, as a democrat in west virginia, getting lots of headlines about sticking forks in the eyes of other democrats is, itself, valuable to him). it may have other value as discussed below.

the real question is "and when that fails, then what" because we all expect it to fail. that's where we do not actually know: if his efforts at a bipartisan solution fail, what will he do?

if he won't do anything: then we're hosed. he won't actually do anything and the bill will fail. any further brinksmanship efforts will also fail. however, it is in his interests not to reveal that he's bluffing entirely because he would rather the bill largely pass as a bipartisan thing he can take credit for. but in that case, why he said all of this stuff will be simple: so that when he folds he can say it was what he was planning on doing all along, it's not folding.

if he will do something to let the bill pass despite the filibuster (such as by requiring a talking filibuster or some other "reform" that is not "abolishing" the filibuster) then manchin will want to have laid as much possible groundwork that he was forced into this against his will and republicans are to blame.

at the end of the day, there's not really much that we can know about which of the two scenarios above is correct. it's possible manchin himself does not know. we have good reason to believe the second is possible because that is basically what he did with the ARA. we have good reason to believe the first is true because, well, he keeps saying he's not abolishing the filibuster. and we have good reason to believe he knows what he's doing, politically speaking, because he's gotten elected as a democratic senator twice in west virginia while generally delivering votes that democrats need - but only the ones they need

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:34

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

I offer laughter in this time of mourning for labor rights

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:34

Nichael: Mar 30, 2011

Dixon Chisholm posted:

That's next level assault. Seriously crazy poo poo.

Wow.

yup! not good.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:35

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

you guys are all afraid to say it but I'll say it. I'll say it loud and proud. hunter biden is my dad.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:35

KirbyKhan: Mar 20, 2009; Soiled Meat

Nichael posted:

hunter biden clearly doesn't matter, just like don jr didn't matter, but it is very funny

That dude has a pokemon plush and a dog who's unfazed by him banging out. It is extremely funny.

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:35

puppets freak me out: Dec 18, 2015

synapse posted:

the terrible count so far has to be because a bunch of yes votes are "contested". right folks... right??

I expect it's similar to how it took like 5 months to count votes in CA districts where Bernie won, but took a day or two to count in districts where Biden won

The only reason to have your first headline on the union vote be "oh hey the first hundred votes were overwhelmingly against unionization" is to prime the narrative against the possibility of the union winning

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:36

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

remember when obama didn't pass card check

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1380255080033751042

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:36

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

remember when obama didn't pass card check

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1380255080033751042

yea the vote was always rigged, glad we made sure to make such an important deal like abandoning card check in exchange for...uh...

what'd we get for that, again?

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:38

Excelzior: Jun 24, 2013

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

remember when obama didn't pass card check

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1380255080033751042

remember when Obama called Lebron to quash any possibility of the NBA players striking and pushing for a general strike

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:39

Nichael: Mar 30, 2011

gee maybe the current democratic president or the past three democratic presidents could've gone there to tell people to vote yes

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:39

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

sexpig by night posted:

yea the vote was always rigged, glad we made sure to make such an important deal like abandoning card check in exchange for...uh...

what'd we get for that, again?

political capital (post prez book and netflix deals)

# ? Apr 8, 2021 21:39