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GorfZaplen posted:Teh soundtrack is inexplicably English language AOR Yeah, I first saw the OP when people were talking about the worst openings ever, and I gotta say, they had a point.
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GorfZaplen posted:For other power armor anime there's Sonic Soldier Borgman which I haven't seen but looks cool: That looks incredibly nineties. Awesome. Nyaa has subs, going to give that a try. Last powered armor series I saw was Infinite Stratos. Don’t watch that. I didn’t finish. It’s more harem then Powered Armor. 
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Worried about how the CG in Getter Robot Ark looks like hot garbage
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Gaius Marius posted:Gotta watch Bubblegum crisis if you like powered armor shows I still think of the awesome video store clerk who didn't say anything to my dad when I wanted to rent bubblegum and Akira back when I was 7 or 8. Some of my first anime right there.
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Blockhouse posted:Worried about how the CG in Getter Robot Ark looks like hot garbage It actually looks better than in the first PV, so hopefully it improves even more.
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So, I'm still watching Back Arrow, even with the terrible memories it's going to inspire for the next few weeks, and man. It's bad! I get that it and Dynazeon have different goals and everything, but going from Dynazeon's organic overlapping conversations, rich in personality, humor, and character growth to Back Arrow having multiple fight reaction scenes where people just break down one line into pieces so they all can say part of it is a bit of a clash, and not one that makes Back Arrow look good. The overall narrative had the war plot end without moving us any closer to resolution of Arrow's beef with walls. (Then again, given 139's absurd crash, maybe I don't want to think about monsters and walls right now). And that's really bad, because the plot hasn't given us much reason to care about the war or the politics. One rear end in a top hat nation is suddenly our rooting interest because their ruler is absurdly nice (when she's not being ultra-evil with her split personality), despite them also having a shadow ruler who's turbo evil, and then they win with pacifism and... who gives a gently caress? Like, what part of this is interesting? Meanwhile, the plot in Dynazeon had the biggest problem for the heroes arise organically from the protagonist having normal, relatable motives, and also a part time job after school, and somehow his incompetent flailing was a million times more interesting than Back Arrow's clash of kings deciding the fate of nations. Comparisons are a kind of weak method here, I know. You don't criticize an apple for being less round than an orange. But the latest episode of Back Arrow was so dull that pointing to a better show is the easiest way for me to keep focus.
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If anyone was wondering about the Evangelion gag manga Dark Horse put out 6 years ago, I cant recommend it. There are some decent gags, like working at NERV so long that you completely lose any sense of scale, and a bit about Misato being gross culminating in the revelation that when they were dating she would amuse Kaji by lighting her farts on fire. But the good stuff is outweighed by untranslatable Japanese wordplay and male characters talking about female characters boobs.
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Kingtheninja posted:I still think of the awesome video store clerk who didn't say anything to my dad when I wanted to rent bubblegum and Akira back when I was 7 or 8. Some of my first anime right there. Excellent start.
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Gripweed posted:If anyone was wondering about the Evangelion gag manga Dark Horse put out 6 years ago, I cant recommend it. There are some decent gags, like working at NERV so long that you completely lose any sense of scale, and a bit about Misato being gross culminating in the revelation that when they were dating she would amuse Kaji by lighting her farts on fire. But the good stuff is outweighed by untranslatable Japanese wordplay and male characters talking about female characters boobs. Dark Horse put out a bunch of them, and most are, indeed, not that good. But looking at the descriptions, this sounds like a description of Tony Takezaki's Evangelion, forcing me to conclude that Gripweed's soul is tragically bound by gravity. As evidence that the manga is, indeed, a valuable contribution to humanity's evolution, I present the following, without context: A sample page. There's boob jokes and untranslatable puns, yes, but there's also absurdity, in depth references to the show, all sorts of crude humor, and Shinji meditating under a waterfall to train to defeat his father in a martial arts duel. It's not all winners, but Fuyutsuki's role alone is enough to recommend it.
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Been rewatching Big O, and man episode 18 was weird and not in the way that show usually is, also I get part of the joke is that Beck The Great RX-3 gets taken out effortlessly after it's elaborate transformation sequence and posing but it still was a huge letdown and a weak ending to a mediocre episode in a series that's otherwise pretty stellar
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drrockso20 posted:Been rewatching Big O, and man episode 18 was weird and not in the way that show usually is, also I get part of the joke is that Beck The Great RX-3 gets taken out effortlessly after it's elaborate transformation sequence and posing but it still was a huge letdown and a weak ending to a mediocre episode in a series that's otherwise pretty stellar We have very different senses of humor.
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OK mecha thread, let's get this sorted. What is funny?
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Ardeem posted:We have very different senses of humor. I've just never been fond of jokes centered around something that should be cool and impressive immediately being shown to be useless(it always just makes me feel they wasted both their time and especially that of the audience's), also everything about the Dome most of the episode takes place in just comes off as vaguely unsettling with everyone there being these deformed parodies of Japanese people who only speak gibberish and whose role and involvement in Beck's plot is never really explained(and we never really get a good idea of what exactly that plot was beyond the part with using a recording of Roger's voice to lure Big O into the ocean) and overall most of the episode just feels completely out of place in a very jarring way
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drrockso20 posted:Been rewatching Big O, and man episode 18 was weird and not in the way that show usually is, also I get part of the joke is that Beck The Great RX-3 gets taken out effortlessly after it's elaborate transformation sequence and posing but it still was a huge letdown and a weak ending to a mediocre episode in a series that's otherwise pretty stellar that's one of my favorite episodes
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beck is not a smart man. even when he managed to get one over on roger, everything else was just a big mess. also, the roger head on a rc car was hilarious.
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GorfZaplen posted:that's one of my favorite episodes Same. Dorothy going at hyperspeed on a bicycle is an awesome visual, and the reveal that Roger had just a goddamn pile of his super fancy watches was another great gag. gimme the GOD drat candy posted:beck is not a smart man. even when he managed to get one over on roger, everything else was just a big mess. also, the roger head on a rc car was hilarious. See, on rewatch one of the things I noticed was that Beck was actually one of the canniest and most intelligent people in the show. He was just in completely the wrong drat genre. In episode nine when he reappeared he had Roger absolutely dead to rights with an incredibly good plan, but when it broke down at the very last minute he had to bust out his giant robot and got completely clowned on. Similarly his plan in episode 18 was also really good, but again when it didn't pan out he busted out his brand-new giant robot and was instantly defeated. Beck is genuinely excellent as a planner, as a schemer, and as a manipulator for everyone and everything EXCEPT robots. In another series he would genuinely be a legitimate criminal mastermind, so it's too bad for him that he's in a super robot series where one of the leads is an android.
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Gripweed posted:OK mecha thread, let's get this sorted. What is funny? Comedy equals tragedy plus time.
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chiasaur11 posted:Comedy equals tragedy plus time. So you're saying your posts will be funny one day?
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Omnicrom posted:Same. Dorothy going at hyperspeed on a bicycle is an awesome visual, and the reveal that Roger had just a goddamn pile of his super fancy watches was another great gag. Beck literally being in the wrong show is an amazing meta joke.
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I really need to actualy sit down and watch Xabungle.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I really need to actualy sit down and watch Xabungle. Same, but also Overman King Gainer. Does any streaming service have that?
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wdarkk posted:Same, but also Overman King Gainer. Does any streaming service have that? I watched King Gainer years ago, borrowing the dvds from a friend. It owns.
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A practical demonstration on humor:chiasaur11 posted:Comedy equals tragedy plus time. Droyer posted:So you're saying your posts will be funny one day?
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chiasaur11 posted:Comparisons are a kind of weak method here, I know. You don't criticize an apple for being less round than an orange. But the latest episode of Back Arrow was so dull that pointing to a better show is the easiest way for me to keep focus. I've already argued with you about the show at length, so we're never going to agree about this one, but I will say that this week was a little anti-climatic after a pretty good run of episodes. Which isn't a mortal sin or anything...although I'll mention that if an ep like this kills your interest, then I wonder how you'd possibly get through certain chunks of Overman King Gainer, Xabungle, or something like Orguss for that matter, because it's utterly absurd to use Dynazeon (or Gridman) as the golden standard for mecha anime pacing, plotting or characterization. Nonetheless, the big difference between us would be...there were still parts of today's Back Arrow that I liked, such as the way they used the ship's main cannon, or which at least make me interested in where they'll take things next (in fact, by the end of the ep, I could make a case for the peaceful outcome working as a giant red herring here). wielder fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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chiasaur11 posted:Macross having PMCs as generic good guys fighting against enemies that the regular military is also fighting is the weird bit. It's not always weird. The PMC in Frontier are specialists in dealing with the alien threat they face, fully briefed on highly sensitive material, and specially equipped to handle the threat. it's a very successful exercise in compartmentalizing deeply secret material. Nobody in the actual military or government has know much more than "if X happens, call these people". SMS is backed by a corporation that makes highly advanced weapons and one of their pilots, Luka, is part of the family than runs that corp. This is probably why they have VF-25s before the military does. The adult pilots have just been chilling since the Vajra murked that expeditionary fleet, maintaining readiness and training the next generation of anti-Vajra specialists.
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PMCs in Macross are mostly just a narrative trick to get around having characters in the military and dealing with military hierarchy while still getting to fly valkryies, in a series that consistently since 1982 has asserted that the military is grotesque. If you say UN Spacy is corrupt and inhumane as they are in every single iteration of Macross, then you gotta have an out for why your protagonist isn't complicit in it That's why Macross II is secretly the most successful one thematically because Hibiki is a pilot-journalist flying a news valkryie
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Macross 7's official military was mostly fine and not really corrupt at all, though it had the admittedly large advantage of being commanded by Max and Exedol. Basically the only questionable/shady thing they really do is try to form and deploy the Jamming Birds, and that was mostly due to a very understandable desire to have some kind of way to fight back against the horrible space cthulhus that could be consistently relied on rather than having to hope that Basara and company will show up and cooperate. Hell, Gamlin is basically a deuteragonist of the show and he's a career military dude.
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Yeah but Gamlin's character arc is going from totally despising music in episode 1 to singing a loving song in the finale, which by Macross standards might as well be going from inanimate object to a real boy.
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chiasaur11 posted:So, I'm still watching Back Arrow, even with the terrible memories it's going to inspire for the next few weeks, and man. They really had the princess' love mecha deus ex machina the war two episodes in a row lmao Least this last one was 20% GIANT EVIL WOMAN
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Back Arrow is the kind of show that's 100% overwrought melodrama and wild setpieces distracting from the fact that it has absolutely no idea what it wants to say, where its plot is going, or what it's doing with any of its characters. It works great for people who just like overwrought melodrama and wild setpieces. It's basically a mediocre JRPG.
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Kanos posted:Macross 7's official military was mostly fine and not really corrupt at all, though it had the admittedly large advantage of being commanded by Max and Exedol. Basically the only questionable/shady thing they really do is try to form and deploy the Jamming Birds, and that was mostly due to a very understandable desire to have some kind of way to fight back against the horrible space cthulhus that could be consistently relied on rather than having to hope that Basara and company will show up and cooperate. The military's not that bad in Plus, either. Isamu's career, the rest of the test crew is sympathetic, and it's a non-military project that's the root of the problem. Sure, there's the Ghost, and it's villainous even aside from being subverted by Sharon Apple, but that's the "bad" side of the military, where it abandons its fundamental humanity, which is ultimately destroyed when Guld remembers his sins and realizes his debt to his friends, sacrificing himself based on the same human connections the Ghost discards. Speaking of drones, though, 86 started today. So far, so good.
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Curiously, 86 reminds me a lot of Code Geass: Akito the Exiled at the moment. I wonder how many people still remember that OVA series.Caphi posted:Back Arrow is the kind of show that's 100% overwrought melodrama and wild setpieces distracting from the fact that it has absolutely no idea what it wants to say, where its plot is going, or what it's doing with any of its characters. It works great for people who just like overwrought melodrama and wild setpieces. It's basically a mediocre JRPG. I agree that the show's relative emphasis hasn't been on character work. It also does have a certain mid-tier JRPG story structure and tone. Jury's still out on the plot right now, but they haven't been dismissing the cast to that absolute degree. They've had their moments, even a few effective ones (most obviously with Shu/Kai/Ren). It's more the continued lack of a singular focus that can be seen as a handicap, although for me it's an acceptable trade-off. drrockso20 posted:It'll probably make good SRW fodder though, that seems to often be the case with mediocre Mecha series SRW games also usually do a good job of narrowing down the narrative to its "greatest hits" and so any meandering parts become far less of an issue in that format. wielder fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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Pootybutt posted:They really had the princess' love mecha deus ex machina the war two episodes in a row lmao I'm really not sure how that counts as a deus ex machina. An extremely determined superhuman pacifist got her hands on an extremely common device powered by willpower and managed to stop a war through her sheer stubborn refusal to let either side inflict lasting damage on each other. That's well within the logic of the show, and didn't exactly come out of nowhere.
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Gaius Marius posted:I'm pretty sure I forgot most of akito as I was watching it. It was a very strange and unsatisfying way to expand code grass's universe I'm kinder towards Akito than most Geass fans are, but Kazuki Akane did make some odd choices and introduced concepts near the end that needed more time to be developed.
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I wonder if they thought they were gonna get another OVA or a full series afterwords, I can't imagine why they would start dropping all of the mystical stuff otherwise.
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homeless snail posted:Yeah but Gamlin's character arc is going from totally despising music in episode 1 to singing a loving song in the finale, which by Macross standards might as well be going from inanimate object to a real boy. It's less that he despises music and more that he initially can't understand why Basara is doing what he does and thinks that Basara is a reckless idiot(which is honestly not terribly unreasonable of a take at first, given that it takes a while for Basara's approach to actually start having concrete effects). Even though Gamlin comes to understand and value what Basara is doing and becomes his ally, he still remains a career military dude, which is mostly the point I'm making with regards to the Macross military not always being depicted as horrible shitheads.
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Gaius Marius posted:I wonder if they thought they were gonna get another OVA or a full series afterwords, I can't imagine why they would start dropping all of the mystical stuff otherwise. At the very least, I recall an interview with director Akane where he admitted that, in retrospect, maybe they should have made Akito into a TV series instead. Which makes me reasonably interested in finding out where 86 will go with a conspicuously similar premise. It won't be exactly the same, absolutely not, yet the parallels are undeniable. Ironically...in another interview, the original Code Geass staff members said they're not too interested in the mystical worldbuilding, which is why they didn't refer to the Akito lore in the recent movie (but it seems they'll bring in some of those concepts for the upcoming mobile game though, whenever that's coming out).
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