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Gasoline
Jul 31, 2008

These led me to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B229-KLudTo

I assume those planes are usually built so that the wheels don't fall off.

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May 2, 2004



"Stop! You've violated the law OSHA code 1910.252!"

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


EvenWorseOpinions posted:

My favorite part is that gravity appears to be the only fastener they use

that's all it needs

you can also tell at glance if a train car is loaded or empty by how compressed the springs are

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


It's always impressive how well designed technology get to be after several generations of engineering.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Splashing injuries: we had a sailor on deployment who was doing some maintenance on a power cart on the flight deck. This results in having an open bucket full of used engine cleaning fluid. During the actual maintenance, they were wearing all the required PPE, including goggles. However, when it came time to dispose of the fluid, they took that stuff off and were carrying it down a stair well when a combination of sloshing and a gust of wind splashed some of it up in their eyes. A quick trip to medical to get their eyes flushed out and they were fine, but the lesson was learned that you need to keep your PPE on the whole time you're dealing with HAZMAT, not just while actively working on the equipment.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

MikeCrotch posted:

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The San Francisco BART trains have untapered cylindrical wheels because somebody in the 70s thought it would be cheaper to do it that way. I have to assume it was some young engineer in the classic San Francisco startup style who looked at the conical wheels on every train on the planet and said "well that's stupid! Straight wheels make much more sense!"

And now we have EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
I'll mention my weird experiences with the railroad here. I do research work that involves energy and transportation sectors. Each sector and industry has its own feel and character. It's extremely easy to obtain all sorts of information, software, firmware, used or new devices in the electric grid sector and general industrial automation. Vendor reps are easy to talk to, want to sell you stuff, and share information.

It gets quite a bit harder in the oil and gas sector. You can still buy stuff and speak to vendors but obtaining information from operators gets a lot harder. These guys try to protect their infrastructure and are generally suspicious.

And then there is the railroad sector. It's the single most walled off garden I've ever seen. Railroad operators won't even answer calls or emails.
Vendors - if you can find out who they are - are extremely uncooperative. They might talk to you briefly just to tell you to gently caress off. Hardly any will even consider selling anything to anyone but railroad operators. There are very few vendors, they are tightly inter-linked and they all talk to each other.
In conclusion, railroad opsec is pretty good

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

Gasoline posted:

These led me to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B229-KLudTo

I assume those planes are usually built so that the wheels don't fall off.

that poor girl sounded so terrified at the start there.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT
I met him at a the port just the other day
Where we ride on a ship to go fishing off Nova Scotia
N-O-V-A Scotia

He didn't have gear and he wasn't prepared
We left him at port to avoid any problems with OSHA
O-S-H-A, OSHA, O-O-O-O-OSSSHHAA

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

By popular demand posted:

It's always impressive how well designed technology get to be after several generations of engineering disasters.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER


Gasoline posted:

These led me to this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B229-KLudTo

I assume those planes are usually built so that the wheels don't fall off.

The planes are built to very strict aeronautical standards, yes.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



That's me getting my Sub stuck in GTA Online.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Mr. Nice! posted:

That’s 100% correct. Trains would not work properly if the wheels and axles were attached to the cars.

Pretty sure the trucks would work fine fastened to the cars, so long as the trucks can swivel, but the weight of the cars makes fastening not worth the effort (plus the ease of maintenance shown above).

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
But now you can't build ramps and do sick jumps!

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
Yeah, my original point was more that I didn't realize gravity is what holds train axles and wheels and stuff together, but it makes sense considering their operating regime. It's an elegant 'solution' to a problem that I assumed existed

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!

By popular demand posted:

Work shoes, steel toed, sealed to liquids and nonconductive to electricity.
I would have definitely scalded myself without them and the slip resisting soles are great too.

If you work in anything involving hot liquids and your boss doesn't insist on work shoes you should consider quitting. And loving his wife too.

I had the sneaker kind of steeled toes. While welding, a drop of molten slag landed on them, burned a hole through my shoe and sock, and landed on my foot. With no place to go, it kept burning into my foot.

It took five years before that scar started fading.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

MikeCrotch posted:

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


I love hearing trains at night in the distance. When I went to college, though, the campus was bisected by a train line and they'd blow the horn the entire time they crossed campus even in the middle of the night, which wasn't as nice, especially my second year when my room directly faced the train tracks.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

EvenWorseOpinions posted:

Yeah, my original point was more that I didn't realize gravity is what holds train axles and wheels and stuff together, but it makes sense considering their operating regime. It's an elegant 'solution' to a problem that I assumed existed

The same applies to old time battleship turrets. Ships were not intended to roll around their main axis, so the turrets were just dropped in place. Of course if such a ship sunk it could roll, and then the turrets would fall off while the hull might drift a bit beneath the waves.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Am guessing the ancient aliens dude is the one filming at the top of the shaft.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

I love hearing trains at night in the distance. When I went to college, though, the campus was bisected by a train line and they'd blow the horn the entire time they crossed campus even in the middle of the night, which wasn't as nice, especially my second year when my room directly faced the train tracks.

a buddy went to grad school at the University of Wisconsin Madison and I distinctly remember waking up thinking a train was going to eat me

I think he said the city kept fining the conductor who did it, but that just made him do it more

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



By popular demand posted:

Work shoes, steel toed, sealed to liquids and nonconductive to electricity.
I would have definitely scalded myself without them and the slip resisting soles are great too.

If you work in anything involving hot liquids and your boss doesn't insist on work shoes you should consider quitting. And loving his wife too.

Oh I was wearing work shoes when I soaked my foot in boiling water. Well, kitchen shoes. I still have a pair: comfy and those rubber soles were like wearing a pair of suction cup on the feet in a wet and messy kitchen. Sadly they weren't water resistant. In fact they'd always fall apart after about 5-6 months due to me often working in the dish pit and getting them soaked. On the plus side that meant the soles never wore out. Shame the place I work in now has a waxed floor those same slip-resistant soles now feel like I'm walking on two pieces of soap.

Learned about them and how they're not the same as sneakers the hard way. Our delivery team was trecking in and out during heavy rains (we ran 11-12 stores selling our pre-made meals on 2 kitchens so we had the D-Team transferring all that stuff) making part of the kitchen hella wet. I go around the corner to put an empty container in the dish pit a bit too fast and my tennis shoes simply didn't have the grip. Broke a rib hitting the corner of a prep table on the way down.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

TotalLossBrain posted:

And then there is the railroad sector. It's the single most walled off garden I've ever seen. Railroad operators won't even answer calls or emails.
Vendors - if you can find out who they are - are extremely uncooperative. They might talk to you briefly just to tell you to gently caress off. Hardly any will even consider selling anything to anyone but railroad operators. There are very few vendors, they are tightly inter-linked and they all talk to each other.
In conclusion, railroad opsec is pretty good

What super secret tech info are RRs and vendors trying to protect? Or is it their sales cont(r)acts?

moparacker
May 8, 2007

Memento posted:

https://i.imgur.com/s4YWegv.mp4

I like seeing how, regardless of how well you've defeated the weight of those things (rails, cranes), there's still a whole lot of mass to deal with.

I like how the one guy puts the jack spacers (I can't recall their proper name) on the cylinder and then doesn't relieve the hydraulic pressure to properly use them.

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Empty Sandwich posted:

a buddy went to grad school at the University of Wisconsin Madison and I distinctly remember waking up thinking a train was going to eat me

I think he said the city kept fining the conductor who did it, but that just made him do it more

I'm convinced something like this is going on with the line that runs by my apartment, because it goes right through the middle of the city and they always seem to blow the horns louder and longer at night. There are no level crossings to worry about or anything like that, either. It's pretty funny.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

moparacker posted:

I like how the one guy puts the jack spacers (I can't recall their proper name) on the cylinder and then doesn't relieve the hydraulic pressure to properly use them.

At least they should still catch the weight if the pressure fails, I hope?

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Memento posted:

https://i.imgur.com/s4YWegv.mp4

I like seeing how, regardless of how well you've defeated the weight of those things (rails, cranes), there's still a whole lot of mass to deal with.

There's a train shop in PA that has a gantry crane that can pick up a locomotive and set it down on the other end of the shop. Surprisingly hard to find footage of it in action but It's impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN-F3HSEZm4

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

moparacker posted:

I like how the one guy puts the jack spacers (I can't recall their proper name) on the cylinder and then doesn't relieve the hydraulic pressure to properly use them.

Yeah, I would have thought he'd lower it down.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Computer viking posted:

At least they should still catch the weight if the pressure fails, I hope?

Yes, it's perhaps a time saving method thing (so you don't have to lift it again, then lower again), not super safe but better than nothing. So fits perfectly here.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
some crossposts from the schadenfreude thread:
https://i.imgur.com/3zrMo0m.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/rUQevJv.mp4

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Mr. Nice! posted:

Yeah, I would have thought he'd lower it down.

Yeah, if it suddenly fails, I wouldn't want to trust it all works with the physics of the thing slamming down on the spacers.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

They're just finding the cargo capacity of the ship!

Used to do it with elephants...

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
I've always heard those called 'blocks' and with that small of a gap between the jack's head and the blocks I would think it would still be 'safe', but if you want your jack to wear down faster I think that leaving a bunch of static pressure on its hydraulics is a good way to accomplish that


Nenonen posted:

The same applies to old time battleship turrets. Ships were not intended to roll around their main axis, so the turrets were just dropped in place. Of course if such a ship sunk it could roll, and then the turrets would fall off while the hull might drift a bit beneath the waves.

In case anyone wanted to hear a nerd give a 55 minute lecture about this topic, here it ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfGJPLDwAI
It's been since early this year that I watched it but my recollection is that there are some mechanical retention method for some turrets on some ships but whether or not those could hold a turret in place, they were probably designed to keep the turrets from being jarred off of their rollers if the ship took a hit or when firing

EvenWorseOpinions fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 11, 2021

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
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Dares Box Trump
They lower the jack in the full video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qv7y0W_mNM

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Wasabi the J posted:

They're just finding the cargo capacity of the ship!

Used to do it with elephants...

They really gotta stop letting Calvin's dad be in charge of these kinds of things...

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008

Memento posted:

https://i.imgur.com/s4YWegv.mp4

I like seeing how, regardless of how well you've defeated the weight of those things (rails, cranes), there's still a whole lot of mass to deal with.

Came across some of those wheel and axle sets were just chilling under a train bridge, not chained down or anything. The busy downtown street it was on sloped downward, I realized anybody could wreck poo poo/kill people by setting them rolling down the street if they were so inclined.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I found a whole rear end coupler on the side of the tracks once and still wonder how nobody missed it

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Sagebrush posted:

The San Francisco BART trains have untapered cylindrical wheels because somebody in the 70s thought it would be cheaper to do it that way. I have to assume it was some young engineer in the classic San Francisco startup style who looked at the conical wheels on every train on the planet and said "well that's stupid! Straight wheels make much more sense!"

And now we have EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I really miss when the Paris Metro ran on rubber tires.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
found some proto-OSHA at the antique mall earlier today

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Wear gloves when handling sharp things, and don't try to catch them if you drop them.

:nms: for blood.







My enormous meat paws narrowly save themselves from tendon or bone damage yet again.

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Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

PainterofCrap posted:

I really miss when the Paris Metro ran on rubber tires.

They still do.

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